Path: trends.ca!hub.org!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news.ultranet.com!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter0!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: daffer@daffer.net (William Daffer) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Chris Carpenter and the '4 million' claim Date: 16 Jun 1998 12:53:00 -0700 Organization: none Lines: 125 Message-ID:X-Posted-By: daffer@207.218.63.129 (daffer) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: trends.ca alt.revisionism:183930 Chris Carpenter made some claim a while ago that the media keeps parroting the incorrect _4 million dead at Auschwitz_ 'party line' thereby brainwashing the unthinking masses into believing the Holocaust worse than it really is, as if 1.5 million is somehow less terrible. He challenged us to refute him and, since he was unwise enough to frame the assertion as a universal, John Morris promptly obliged, quoting an article from the Washington Post, I believe. I've done a mornings research on the Net and have found these additional three articles. 1. -------------------------------------------------- From a CNN article entitled: _Top Polish rabbi wants extraterritorial Auschwitz_ 7 June 1998 Web posted at: 20:10 CEST, Paris time (18:10 GMT) Quote: During World War Two, three million of Poland's 3.5 million Jews were killed by the invading Nazi Germans, more than one million at Auschwitz-Birkenau. End Quote: 2.-------------------------------------------------- From another CNN article, this one entitled: _Israel honors Holocaust survivors' role in creating state_ April 22, 1998 Web posted at: 9:11 p.m. EDT (0111 GMT) Quote: Netanyahu will spend Remembrance Day in Poland, where he will join the annual "March of the Living" from the former Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp, where Nazis murdered up to 1.5 million people, the vast majority Jews from across Europe. The aim of the march, involving almost 7,000 young Jews from around the world and 1,000 survivors, is to protest against spreading claims that the Holocaust never happened. End Quote: Comment: Two for two. Seems like CNN has got it right. The last paragraph is a rather delicious irony, don't you think, Chris? 3. -------------------------------------------------- From an article entitled _50 years after the liberation of AUSCHWITZ `I hear crying' in the silence_ Published by USA Today, By Jack Kelley; Andrea Stone Thur., Jan. 26, 1995 FINAL EDITION Section: NEWS Page 10A Quote: In memory of the 1.5 million killed here, leaders from two dozen countries will gather on the anniversary, to observe a moment of silence. End Quote: So, USA Today has got it right! I'm sure we can find more. But I think the point is made well enough. If Mr. Carpenter can produce quotes with citations which indicate otherwise, let him do so. In any case, the salient point is this. The 4 million figure is not held by any historians and the final figure of 6 million Jews dead in the Holocaust is not dependent upon it, hence this number is irrelevant. Anyone wanting to check the numbers for the death toll in the Holocaust could easily do so by reading the historians. If there were a conspiracy to inflate these numbers, it isn't a very good one that allows these messy historians with their 'low' death tolls to write their books. Conspiracy to inflate the death toll? No. Media Parrotting of the _4 million dead at Auschwitz_ number? Also No. Sorry, you lose. Probablity of Mr. Carpenter acknowledging this? 0. whd -- My mail address has been mangled by my mailer. Send replies to... daffer@primenet.com -- Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx.
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