From mvanalst@rbi.com Mon Oct 16 08:39:29 PDT 1995 Article: 11144 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!kryten.awinc.com!news.netnet.net!news.inc.net!news.sol.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!sundog.tiac.net!wizard.pn.com!news.zeitgeist.net!mvanalst.rbi.com!user From: mvanalst@rbi.com (Mark Van Alstine) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.skinheads Subject: Re: The Dachau Gas Chamber EXPOSED, by a Medical Doctor Date: 13 Oct 1995 02:16:19 GMT Organization: rbi software systems Lines: 158 Message-ID:References: <808408532snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <808688827snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4135o1$kb0@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <808854806snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <809029532snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <41ggvg$aeq@mail.inforamp.net> <41gnms$1fm8@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <41mq1s$9v1@mail.inforamp.net> <41tvc6$hm0@mail.inforamp.net> <42jc53$al7@inforamp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mvanalst.rbi.com Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:11144 alt.politics.nationalism.white:4448 alt.politics.white-power:6079 alt.skinheads:4642 It has taken me a while, but I've finally procured a copy of "Crime Doctor"[1] to check out Mr. Lemiere's claims that he attributed to Dr. Larson. In this post I will address the issue of Dr. Larson's performing autopsies on concentration and death camp prisoners. First, a little refresher of some of Mr.Lemiere's claims, please bear with me: In article <42jc53$al7@inforamp.net>, cpn@inforamp.net (Marc Lemire) wrote: > >> >The man did, as you claim 100 autopsies a day? Lets see, that would make > >> >roughly a little over four per hour if he went twenty four hours. At best > >> >that means he did oen every fifteen minutes. No, considering that he did > >> >not work for 24 hours straight, and the he also looked at 300 bodies > >> >superficially, I fail to see how any work that he did could be considered > >> >accurate - it takes a normal pathologist even with todays technology much > >> >much longer than fifteen minutes to examine a body. Either you have your > >> >facts mixed up, you are lying, or Lawson is a fraud. > >> > >> You also must consider that he was working quite closley with the > >> American Lab in Paris, which did all the medical tests(ie toxicology, etc). > >> I would also assume that he had other Medics helping him. The medics would > >> probibly get the bodies for Dr Larson to investigate and also assist him in > >> the Autopsies. > >> > > > >Regardless of who did all the tests, it still takes more than fifteen > >minutes to perform a proper autopsy -even with help. Larson could not have > >accomplished what he claimed, unless his work was so shoddy as to be > >unreliable. > > I agree with you here. 100 a day does seem like quite alot. > > I can only speculate the exact number a day, since I am not a patholigist and > I am not Dr. Larson. > > I assume that when the person who helped write the book with Dr. Larson, could > have maybe blew up the figure a bit. But then again, I don't really know. > > >> So far I have not seen any evidence that he is a fraud. Do you have any > >> evidence that might lead you to believe that Dr Larson is a fraud? > > > >Stay tuned. > > OK Ghandi, can't wait. Well, wait no more, Mr. Lemire. From "Crime Doctor," p. 57-58: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Subject: Investigation of Attrocities at Kauffring Camp #4 near Hulach, Germany. (Hulach is near Landsberg). "On May 1, 1945 I inspected 286 bodies lying in the compound of the above camp. The examination as to the cause of death was of necessity quite superficial and hurried. The cause of death could be roughly divided into three catagories: "1. 86 bodies were so severely burned that the burns themselves were undoubtably the cause of death. Sworn statements of witnesses indicate that these individuals were locked in the barracks at the compound and that these buildings were deliberately set on fire with the attempt to destroy all these bodies by the Germans shortly before the American troops liberated this camp. "2. 11 bodies were shot either in the head, chest or abdomen or in different combinations of the above wounds sufficient to be the cause of death. "3. 189 bodies showed no gross external cause of death. All of these bodies, as well as those in the foregoing two classifications, were extremely emanciated; many of them had large decubitus sores, and all were lice-infested. According to witnesses, typhus was present in this camp and some could have died of this disease. However, according to other reliable testimony, these individuals were murdered by hypodermic injection of an unknown poison a matter of hours before the Americans liberated the camp. The German doctor for the camp- a 'Dr. Blanke' -was seen to have used a large srynge with a needle and to have injected this unknown poison into these individuals. The result of the injection was death in from five to 20 minutes. Death was precedeeded by generalized convulsions. In a search of the camp and of 'Dr, Blanke's' home and office, no clue was found as to the type of poison used. From some autopsies performed, the brain and portions of the liver, the spleen, the heart and one kidney were retained for transmission to the First Medical Laboratory in Paris for toxicological exanimation to determine the type of administered. (Author's Note: Major Larson later recieved reports from FML in Paris that the organs he had sent in for toxicological examination on three autopsied cases were _negative_ for all poisons.) In one autopsied case the individual had pulmonary tuberculosis which was bilateral and rather far advanced. There was no gross cavitation, and about 75 percent of the lung tissue contained air and was not completely replaced by the tuberculosis except for some recent bronchogenic dissemination. No focal tuberculosis was found in other organs of the body. This autopsy was performed under field conditions with no water available. "The testimony suggested that some of those poisoned recieved injections over the heart. No needle wounds were observed on the heart in the cases autopsied. "Dr. Blake committed suicide a few minutes before the Americans arrived in town and, according to testimony, his death was due to poisoning self-administered, supposedly the same type used on the prisoners in the compound. He aslo murdered his wife by the same means before taking his own life. "Thirt-one additional bodies were found in the woods lying on the ground in a somewhat scattered position a few hundred yards from the compound. Superficial examination of these bodies showed that 17 of them had died as a result of gunshot wounds; mostly multiple and probably from machine gun fire as whole extremities were amputated on some. Fourteen of these bodies showed no visable external cause of death and were also supposed to have been poisoned. Numerous photogrphs were taken to corrborate this report. "SIGNED: Major C.P. Larson, M.C. Pathologist (50th General Hospital) D.S. with War Crimes Team 6823. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As for evidence of Dr. Larson being a fraud? I'm tending do doubt that rather much. In the book's forward (p. v) Dr. Larson was so described: "A cosmopolitan, Dr. Larson was born in Eleva, Wisconsin, had his early education at Gonzaga Univerity in Washington, obtained his medical degree >from McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, and pursued specialty training in pathology at the University of Michigan and University of Oregon Medical Schools... "...He has served as president of the major professional organizations in pathology. Service to his country as a colonel in the United States Army culminated in his being appointed pathologists for the War Crimes Investigating Team in the European Theater of Operation in 1945. "Dr. Larson was a founding member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences in Chicago in 1948 and 1966 was a founding member of the National Association of Medical Examiners. Mark 1. 78-16403: McCallum, John Dennis, 1924- Crime Doctor : Dr. Charles P. Larson, world's foremost medical-detective, reports from his crime file Mercer Island, Wash. : Writing Works, c1978. x, 262 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. LC CALL NUMBER: RA1025.L37 M3 1978 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties--but right through every human heart--and all human hearts." -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "The Gulag Archipelago" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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