From dmittleman@cmi.arizona.edu Sun Jun 9 11:22:03 PDT 1996 Article: 41995 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news2.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!imci3!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!noao!news.Arizona.EDU!cmi.arizona.edu!dmittleman From: dmittleman@cmi.arizona.edu (Danny) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Design of a six-sided Hall of Remembrance at the USHMM Date: 8 Jun 1996 14:49 MST Organization: University of Arizona (BPA) Lines: 127 Distribution: world Message-ID: <8JUN199614491828@cmi.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50 In the thread "An all Jewish memorial despite an act of Congress," Matt Giwer remarked on the hexagonal shape of the Hall of Remembrance at the USHMM. I posted a follow-up to the thread asking for an original source. Giwer told me to look at DejaNews for the first post in the thread. I did and found that both Giwer and Mr. Katz have made mistakes. Giwer began in article <4ot330$jke@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> by quoting from an article by Laura Dove (http://darwin.clas.virginia.edu/~ld9d/arch.html): James Ingo Freed's initial reluctance to take on the planning of the museum dissipated after visiting the shtetls and the death camps in Europe. He began to incorporate elements of both the Jews' lives before the Holocaust and architectural details from the camps themselves into his planning. Freed said, "There are certain methodologies of construction, certain tectonics that begin to be very powerful in the memory of the place." His only fast architectural requirement from the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ commission concerned the hexagonal shape of the Hall of Remembrance. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This has been taken to symbolize both the Star of David and the six ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ million Jews who died in the Holocaust. His other design decisions were ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ concerned with the abstraction of form to evoke meaning, saying, "I wanted to make it abstractly symbolic. I was not interested in resuscitating the forms of the Holocaust." With these loose parameters in mind, as well as an avoidance of any neo-classical alignment with Albert Speer's architecture of the Third Reich, Freed began drawing specific proposals. [empahsis mine] Mr. Giwer did not put forward a thesis, he merely posted a portion of Ms. Dove's article. But Mr. Katz responded in articleby saying: This only proves that Mr. Giwer cannot read with comprehension. The text says, "This has been taken to symbolize..." It does not say, "The architect said this is to symbolize..." It is unclear to me what Mr. Katz is responding to. Perhaps there was a previous discussion on this subject. As to the point Mr. Katz is making, I must agree with Mr. Katz. The commission DID insist on a hexagon. The article Giwer cited did not indicate why they insisted on a hexagon. The article goes on to say that that observers have inferred both a "Star of David" and "six million victims" from the design. In fact, another section of the same article, which Giwer CHOSE NOT TO SHARE WITH US states: The permanent exhibit is designed to culminate in the Hall of Remembrance; a peaceful, serene and contemplative space conducive to meditation. The center of the ceiling is a skylight, but the windows are obscured, preventing panoramic views of the Mall and the monuments. On the tops of the doors are triangular cut-outs, reminiscent of the triangle patches worn by homosexuals in the camps. The shape of the Hall is hexagonal. The architect has deliberately obscured the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ architectural language, leaving it up to the permanent exhibit to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hammer home the specific lessons of the Holocaust. [emphasis mine] Giwer's response to Mr. Katz's article in <4p32g9$dhq@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> did not address Mr. Katz's point above. So, apparently Giwer ceded that the representation is an inference of the observer, not the implication of the designer (or the Commission.) Actually, to be fair to Giwer, what he did in his follow-up post was to repost his clip from the original article and state, "Of course, context is everything." I fail to see how this supports his point that Mr. Katz refuted, bu I am confident, that Giwer will appreciate the additional section of the article I added to enhance context. Even if it does run counter to his original assertion. Mr Katz also wrote in his response to Giwer: The architect insisted on a hexagonal building for no reason, except that it fit his artisitic sensibilities. The interpretation was contributed by the art critics, who, as everyone knows, are failed artists themselves. Mr. Katz has made two factual mistakes here. Giwer caught both of them. The building is not hexagonal, only the Hall of Remembrance. And the architect did not insist on the hexagonal shape, it was dictated to him by the Commission. I am uncertain as to why Mr. Katz chose to insult art critics (Giwer can bring out the worst in all of us). Giwer's responded to Mr. Katz in <4p32g9$dhq@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>. Giwer said, in correcting Mr. Katz's error about the shape of the museum as a whole: The building is NOT a hexagon. ONLY the Hall of Rememberance is. Given the number dead it should be 12 sided or 5 sided. The lower figure has always been known to reputable historians. Have you not bee[n] reading? But then this is more MEMORIAL than museum as it preserves the 6 million myth in place of the currently true 5 million (rounded off of course.) [emphasis in origional] But, of course, Giwer is ignoring the information in the article HE OFFERED AS HIS CITATION in asserting that the Hall definitively represents the number of dead from the Holocaust. We have read in this article that the intent was to be obscure. Observers must infer their own meaning. In addition, the article Giwer cited makes mention of representation in the Hall of Remembrance for the suffering of homosexuals in the Holocaust. Given this fact, it is very unlikely that the Hall of Remembrance exists to commemmorate ONLY the Jews killed in the Holocaust. And Giwer knew this -- or should have known this -- as it was in a portion of the article he cited, though he chose not to share this part with us. Sources: -------- mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) "An all Jewish memorial despite an act of Congress" <4ot330$jke@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> June 2, 1996 hkatz@usa.net (Harry Katz) "Re: An all Jewish memorial despite an act of Congress" June 5, 1996 mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer). "Re: An all Jewish memorial despite an act of Congress" <4p32g9$dhq@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> June 5, 1996 Laura Dove "The Architecture of the Holocaust Memorial" http://darwin.clas.virginia.edu/~ld9d/arch.html
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