From rich@c2.org Mon Feb 19 08:49:19 PST 1996 Article: 24201 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!news.Stanford.EDU!tip-mp20-ncs-10.stanford.edu!user From: rich@c2.org (Rich Graves) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads,alt.politics.nationalism.white,mn.politics Subject: Re: Pierce a National Socialist? Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 23:00:15 -0800 Organization: Uncensored Internet, http://www.c2.org/uncensored/ Lines: 80 Message-ID:References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tip-mp20-ncs-10.stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.4 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:24201 alt.skinheads:12424 alt.politics.nationalism.white:14102 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article , bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote: > Jamie McCarthy (jamie@voyager.net) writes: > > > Milton Kleim has repeatedly claimed that the National Alliance is > > not a Nazi or neo-Nazi organization. And just to be sure we're > > talking about the same thing, by "Nazi" I mean "National Socialist." > > (Kleim has also claimed that the term "Nazi" is derogative and means > > something other than "National Socialist.") > > > Mr. Kleim, do you still maintain that the National Alliance is not a > > Nazi or neo-Nazi organization? > > I'll let Dr. Pierce answer: Milton, you didn't finish the quote! You only gave the first two paragraphs! I'm sure Dr. Pierce would be upset. This comes from the National Alliance Membership Handboook, pages 120-122 from ACTIVITIES: RECRUITING TIPS. The part you left out reads: "Suppose, however, that the person asking the question is a potential recruit, someone with an open mind who really wants to understand our beliefs and goals. In this case we are obliged to explore the question more deeply, and in so doing we may have the opportunity to use one of the catchiest ideas of all: the idea of National Socialism. "Using this idea requires great care and good judgment. It is an idea which evokes such strong feelings that even some members cannot face it squarely. On the one hand there are those who are embarrassed by it and would be happier if the National Alliance would explicitly disavow it. On the other hand there are those who accept it wholeheartedly but are unable to distinguish between the idea itself and its specific manifestations in Germany between about 1920 and 1945. They are caught up not only in the idea but also in the mystique of Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist era in Germany, and there are very real dangers in this. For one thing, many of the latter people make a cult of National Socialism, with an emphasis on symbols, uniforms, insignia, rituals, and the like. The danger in this is that National Socialism becomes a hobby, and hobbyism becomes a substitute for effective action. And if we associate ourselves with the cult of National Socialism, as contrasted with the idea, we are forced to contend with the mythical image created by the Jews, for that will be the image raised in the mind of the average person who comes into contact with us. "It is largely for this reason that we have the admonitions elsewhere in this handbook against uniforms, quasi-uniforms, and insignia. Breaking through the wall of misunderstanding between us and the White public is a large enough task without raising the specter of made-in-Hollywood "Nazis." Even if there were no such negative image to overcome, however -- even if the Jews never had made an anti-Nazi film or television show-- it would be wrong for the Alliance to associate itself with the cult aspects of National Socialism in Germany prior to 1945. Things that were natural and helped form a positive public image in Germany at that time seem unnatural and alien in America and many other parts of the White world today. For example, party uniforms were the accepted norm in Germany, not just for the National Socialists, but also for the Communists, the Catholic Centrists, and other political groupings. They never have been the norm in America. "The recruiter who is working with the right sort of potential member--and who himself has an adequate mastery of the subject--can use the National Socialist idea and the mystique associated with its manifestation in Germany as a powerful tool for opening the mind of his prospect to the Alliance message. Again, however, the greatest discretion is required. - -rich Institute for Ernst Zundel Revisionism http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMSV8S43DXUbM57SdAQFNLQP+InBTyeSDDrRe8NsJvBPFy81rKWQW5xhV 7XHFmeXNZOkvJt6dAdFnqZT378gTkAoFhH8HpmsXt+nSsRTp+o0oyKz+nbSd1Zvk +Yzy8q4gcQoImUhy0Ts6c1vK0FMSZh2mZ8tom4bIT6SLeOnVVA2AilhcAjCqUvNv GbZhSPsw7kQ= =uPab -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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