Archive/File: orgs/australian/adelaide-institute/statement-of-faurisson Last-Modified: 1998/04/18 [Page 1] Jeremy Jones and members of the Committee of Management of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry on Behalf of those members of the Jewish community of Australia who are members of organisations affiliated to the Executive Council of Australian Jewry Complainant and Fredrick Toben on Behalf of the Adelaide Institute Respondent Witness Statement: Professor Robert Faurisson, 10, rue de Normandie, F 03200 Vichy, France 3 November 1997 Dear Dr Toben, I have been informed that an Australian government agency may take legal action against your Web site. If this is true, then I consider this action to be a breach of your personal freedom of speech and of everybody's freedom of research. I say "freedom of research" because even researchers who have concluded that the 'genocide of the Jews" during World War 11 and the so-called "Nazi gas chambers" did exist, had, in the first place, to suppose that such things did NOT exist; without doing so, no scientific work can take place. Professor Raul Hilberg, the alleged Number One among establishment historians of the "Holocaust", published in 1961 The Destruction of the European Jews. In 1982 he stated in an interview: I would say that in a certain way Faurisson and others, without having wanted to do so in the first place, have rendered us a good service. They have come up with questions which had the effect of engaging the historians in fresh research work. The historians were obliged to come forward with more information to scrutinise the documents once again and to go further in the understanding of what had really happened. The reference is: Guy Sitbon, "Les archives de I'horreur/Un entretien avec Raul Hilberg", `Le Nouvel Observateur,' 3-9 July 1982, p. 70-73, 75-77; p. 71. In January 1985, at the first Zuendel Trial in Toronto, Canada, R. Hilberg agreed under cross-examination that such had-been his words (Transcript, p. 868-869). According to R. Hilberg, "Faurisson and others have rendered the historians of the Holocaust a good service" in many different ways. Unless he has now changed his mind (in that [Page 2] case, why?), I suppose Professor R. Hilberg should be glad to have Faurisson and Toben possibly rendering him and other historians some good service in some various ways. Everyone - even your opponent - has therefore the right to listen to your arguments when you say, Dr. Toben, as I do, that there was in fact no "genocide of the Jews" and no "Nazi gas chambers". It is only after this that individuals will draw their own Hilbergconclusion from the material presented to them for their considered thought. A. THE "NAZI GAS CHAMBERS" Nineteen years ago, in `Le Monde,' 29 December 1978, p. 8, and 16 January 1979, p. 13, 1 expressed the opinion that the "Nazi gas chambers" were a chemical and technical impossibility. More than one month passed before I received an answer from thirty-four French scholars, including Fernand Braudel, the most prestigious French historian, who stated: The question of how technically such a mass murder was possible should not be raised. It was technically possible since it occurred ... This is the necessary starting point for all historical investigation of the subject It has fallen to us to recall that point with due simplicity: there is not nor can there be a debate over the existence of the gas chambers (Le Monde, 21 February 1979, p. 23). For me, that answer meant in 1979, and still means today, that those historians could not describe "the weapon of the crime". As a matter of fact, to date, no tribunal has yet ordered any expert's report on those extraordinary chemical slaughterhouses (except for the alleged "gas chamber" of Struthof-Natzweiler in Alsace -France-, the result, in an expert report dated 1st December 1945, being that it could not have been a "gas chamber"). Never were we shown the total shape, the technique and the operation of a "Nazi gas chamber'. Never have I received an answer to my question: "Show me or draw me a Nazi gas chamber". The option 'or draw me" is for the people who believe that the so-called 'gas chambers" shown today in some camps are not genuine and that the Germans destroyed all their "gas chambers". Never have I received any answer to my question: 'Could you bring me forward one proof, one single proof?" Of course, the word "proof means what you, not me, would call a "proof." In his famous book, Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers, New York, Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, 1989, 564 p., 45 x 30 cm, Jean-Claude Pressac - who, contrary to what some journalists have said, never was a revisionist - could not answer any of my questions. As naive as the thirty-four French scholars were ten years earlier, Pressac. headed his most important chapter: "One proof.. one single proofThirty-nine criminal traces" (p. 429). And it is true that, in that chapter or anywhere else in his enormous book, he did not bring forward anything that could be called a proof. Nobody answered my two questions about the two rooms shown in Auschwitz I and Auschwitz II (Birkenau) respectively as a "partly reconstructed gas chamber" (R. Hilberg, Zuendel Trial, 1985, Transcript p. 824) and as a "gas chamber in ruins". - As to the first question, I said that the "victims" could not even enter that room of Krematorium I since the door by which they were supposed to enter in 1941 and 1942 did not exist at that time. Plans that I published and premises show this very clearly. This is therefore my first argument: "No door, no 'Destruction". - As to my second question, I said that the Zyklon B pellets, the poison, could not even be poured into the alleged "gas chamber" of Krematorium II since you need only your eyes to see that the alleged 'four regular openings in the roof, through which they were supposed to be poured in, never existed, neither in 1943-1944 nor today. My second argument therefore states: "No holes, no 'Holocaust'". Among the people who never answered my questions, I have to mention here Rabbi Marvin Hier, whom I visited in September 1983 at the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, and Rabbi Michael Berenbaum, whom I visited in August 1994 at the Holocaust Memorial Museum [Page 3] in Washington, In 1988, Arno J. Mayer, professor of European History at Princeton University, wrote: Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable (`Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?/The 'Final Solution' in History" New York, Pantheon, 1988, p. 362). In 1995, antirevisionist historian and journalist Eric Conan wrote about Krematorium I and its "gas chamber" visited in Auschwitz by millions of people: "Everything in it is false" (LExpress, 19-25 January 1995, p. 68). On 13 June 1995, Jean-Claude Pressac, summoned in court for a trial of mine, was unable to show in his book Les Crematoires d'Auschwitz/La Machinerie du meutre de masse (CNRS Editions, 1993) even one photo or one drawing of a "gas chamber" in Auschwitz. Staunch antirevisionist historian Jacques Baynac admitted that finally there is no evidence that any "Nazi gas chamber" ever existed (Le Nouveau Quotidien -de Lausanne, Switzerland, 2 September 1996, p. 16, and 3 September 1996, p. 14). B. THE "GENOCIDE OF THE JEWS" As for the "genocide of the Jews", R. Hilberg had, in 1985, to revise totally his first views as expressed in the first 1961 edition of his book `The Destruction of the European Jews.' He had finally to admit that there had been no order, no plan - even in Wannsee -, no instruction, no budget, no control of such a gigantic enterprise that nobody could imagine without orders, plans, instructions, a budget and a control. Let's see what could be the solution of such a mystery. Let's look at what he began to say in 1983. Here are his words as expressed in a conference and as confirmed two years later at the Zuendel Trial in Toronto, in January 1985, under oath: But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organised centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures. They were [those measures] taken step by step, one step at a time. Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus-mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy. The reference is: R. Hilberg in a conference, according to George DeWan, "The Holocaust in Perspective", Newsday (Long Island, NY), 23 February 1983, p. 11. 3. In Toronto, under crossexamination, R. Hilberg confirmed he had exactly used those words (Transcript, p. 846-848). Let me briefly comment on "an incredible meeting of minds" and "a consensus-mind reading". My questions would be: I - What is a meeting of minds? 2. What is an incredible meeting of minds? 3. What is mind reading? 4. What is a consensus-mind reading? According to The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 1992, third edition: - "Incredible" is defined as: 1 So implausible as to elicit disbelief. `gave an incredible explanation of the cause of the accident' 2. Astonishing: `dressed with incredible speed.' - "Meeting of the minds" is defined as: "Agreement, concord". - "Consensus" in that context is defined as a possible simple redundancy - see "Usage Note" of [Page 4] that word in the same dictionary. - And "mind reading" is defined as: "the faculty of discerning another's thoughts through extrasensory means of communication; telepathy". Therefore, everyone should have the right to say: 1. 1 am sceptical about such a 'meeting of minds"; 2. Since that 'meeting of minds" is described as "incredible", which means "so implausible as to elicit disbelief' or "astonishing", everyone should be entitled to express his disbelief or his astonishment; 3. 1 do not believe in 'mind-reading" or "telepathy"; 4. This is the first time I see an historian explaining a supposedly gigantic historical event through "consensus-mind reading" or telepathy; I do not believe in such an explanation, especially when one has to believe that this is the way German bureaucrats functioned for years. C. THE "SURVIVORS" 'Survivors" or associations of former Jewish inmates tend to present themselves or to be presented in the media as 'living proofs" that there was in Europe during World War 11 a German policy of physically exterminating the Jews; but, in fact, they should normally be considered as 'living proofs" that there was, in reality, no such policy. Many European Jews died and many survived. Although it would be possible, no serious research has yet been done and published on how many approximately died (for instance, R. Hilberg does not give any source for his estimate of a total of 5, 100,000 deaths). As for the survivors, they probably were 3 million at the end of the war, in 1945, since recently an Israeli Prime Minister's office calculated that, in mid-1997, 834,000 to 960,000 survivors of the "Holocaust" were still alive (Adina Mishkoff, AMCHA Office, 13 August 1997,). CONCLUSION Freedom of speech may not be an absolute freedom but freedom of research cannot be limited. This applies especially to the above case which obviously needs to be much more researched than it has been to date, particularly by the alleged Number One among establishment historians of the 'Holocaust' (or of "the Destruction of the European Jews"), R. Hilberg. Sincerely yours R. Faurisson
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