Downloaded from the http://www.c2.net/~bs-org/mail-bu/ directory on Dec. 29, 1996. THE NIZKOR-HOAX 22nd Oct 96 ----------------- I have no problem at all in believing that the Georgia Witches' Sabbath or whatever it's supposed to be is a Nizkor hoax. They've already used their newsgroups, or playgroups as you so aptly call them, to start several hoax stories. One of them was that Tom Metzger was supposed to have "come out" as a convert and renounced all his evil racist ways. That was one of Rich Graves' posts, but the dummy made the mistake of citing a particular web site which supposedly contained Metzger's "recantation" and I checked it out, and there was no such story or document there. Graves just plain made it up out of whole cloth. Why he then referred people to a web site which would clearly prove him to be a liar is one for the psychoanalysts. Another Nizkor hoax is that the Leuchter Report is now "discredited" and Revisionists are "abandoning it". As you yourself determined, this simply isn't true, although I agree the Rudolf Report is better. The idea that Leuchter is in any way discredited is pure disinformation on their part. By the by, I find your comment about Jamie McCarthy being a "bugger boy" to be interesting. I checked out alt.politics.white-power today and found a number of homosexual posts offering anal sex FTPs etc. Maybe Jamie made a mistake in his "moderating" and copied to wrong stuff to the wrong newsgroup. I first started posting to alt.revisionism in 1994; I think it got started in '93. Basically, when it first started up it wasn't this bad. There was at least some semblance of actual debate, which the Exterminationists discovered they were losing, so they quit debating and started killfiling and altering Revisionist posts and degenerating into the kind of insane, hate-filled abuse you read on there today. They claim to have "beaten" a number of Revisionists, which is again nothing but a lie on their part. Serious Revisionists simply quit posting to the group because they got tired of having to deal with filthy language and bird-brained bigotry from people like failed science fiction writer Joel Rosenberg and professional lunatic Andrew Mathis. I quit posting some months ago although I still "lurk" a lot. When the abuse failed to halt Revisionism on the Internet they resorted to using various computer methods and in one case at least that I know about, a private detective to locate the home addresses and phone numbers of their opponents who kept on posting, which they followed up with threats and harassment and attempts to get anyone who disagreed with them fired from their jobs, i.e. the usual Jewish tactics. Plus the mail bombs and forgeries like those you and others have experienced. Needless to say, most Revisionists are serious scholars who have neither the time nor the inclination to become involved in this type of stupidity, so while they remain on the Internet they just don't post to the Nizkor newsgroups any more. (I agree absolutely with your own position, Winston. How the hell are you supposed to have a serious discussion on a topic like "Fucking The Skull Of Kathie Lee Gifford With A Fork"?) The only serious Revisionists who post any more are Matt Giwer, occasionally Kevin Alfred Strom, and every now and then your buddy Baron. I think a lot of the crude race-and-Jew-baiting posts they get and use to start their threads with titles like "Kill All Niggers!" and that kind of thing are actually dummy posts sent in by McVay or McCarthy or one of the others under a false e-mail address. Ron Schoedel was subjected to this kind of thing; he was so badly victimized he nuked his own Christian Identity web page and tried "recanting" in the hopes that they would leave him alone, but that didn't work. Eventually he quit his job and moved to Michigan to try and escape the persecution of these scum, but for some reason he seems addicted to the newsgroups and he keeps on posting to them, he swears he's changed his evil ways and now he loves them all but they still pound him with hateful abuse. Just goes to show there's no point in trying to pacify these assholes. Once you're on their list you're dog meat, so you might as well keep on fighting. [NOTE: Schoedel is an associate of "The Boy" and there might actually be more to this episode than our correspondent is aware of. I am starting to re-assess my ideas there a bit; there may actually have been more method than madness in "The Boy's" behavior, but this is one of those things I doubt we'll ever know for sure without access to things like bank records, etc. - W.S.] Just to give you an example of how tenuous a grasp these people have on reality, in mid-1995 I changed my server and user name for perfectly legitimate reasons having to do with a change of employment. I started posting on alt.revisionism again, and I was immediately accused of being Matt Giwer. I didn't bother to reply to such an idiotic accuation but I found I could get even less response to my posts than usual; every reply was just more hysterical abuse and accusations that I was really Matt Giwer. (They seem to have developed a paranoia about Giwer and a hatred of the poor guy which has reached truly collossal proportions, totally over the line into outright insanity, I suppose because he keeps on posting and won't roll over and play dead.) Winston, you are absolutely dead on target in your assessment of these nuts. They are either just plain crazy and incapable of understanding the difference between truth and lies, or else like McCarthy and McVay they appear to be knowingly promoting a hoax, for which one assumes they are being well paid. By the by, Hillary Ostrov appears to have disappeared from the Nizkor scene. I recall one of your NSNet Bulletins a while back about dissension between the Jews and the Gentiles. The McVay faction seems to have won out, which is interesting because McVay is the purported "connection" to the Simon Wiesenthal Center via Alec Grynspan. Interesting that the big-name Jews like SWC would back a shabbos-goy like McVay, because he's THEIR shabbos-goy, than one of their own yentas like Ostrov. Hang in there, Brother Winston! You are doing a GREAT JOB and you're deeply appreciated. Logging on at night and seeing that "NSWPP-CSU" pop up on my e-mail screen is becoming the high point of my day! ************************************************************** This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey, IMPERIUM
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