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Subject: Re: ZGram - October 5, 1996 - "That sort of thing!"
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:41:26 -0400
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From: Jamie McCarthy 
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Ingrid, pardon me for saying this, but you're not very observant.

Your latest Zgram attacks me thusly:

>Wrote one of the Censorship Busters about the Zundelsite in response to
>Germany's latest attempt to "X-rate"  eight Zundelsite posts:
>
>"Germany is now, stupidly, censoring web pages declared unfit for minors. .
>.  These are pages featured by Ernst Zuendel, a leading political
>revisionist located in Canada whose purportedly "Neo-Nazi" views have been
>the subject of much controversy in Germany. "
>
>Whereupon Jamie McCarthy of Nizkor drew himself up to full height and
>delivered himself of the following:
>
>" Ernst Zuendel is not a "revisionist," political or otherwise. He denies
>the Holocaust happened; that's not revisionist history, it's a lie. And his
>views are not "purportedly" neo-Nazi; he is a self-described National
>Socialist, he hangs pictures of Hitler around his house, he claims the
>world would be a better place if Adolf had won the war, that kind of thing
>. . . "
>
>". . . that sort of thing" makes the government of Canada spend millions of
>tax payers' money to get a fool to quit his stubborn quest about the
>Holocaust?

Your lack of perspicacity is first revealed by your changing "that kind 
of thing" into "that sort of thing" and the elevenfold repetition thereof 
(not counting the subject line).

You then go on for endless paragraphs, describing all the censorship that 
has been done to Mr. Zuendel, and why he deserves to hang that picture of 
Hitler in his study, and how the Holohuggers are trying to shut him down 
because he's speaking the truth, that kind of thing.

What you _don't_ point out to your innocent readers is that I 
categorically _denounced_ the censorship which silly governments try to 
inflict upon the poor fellow.  A mere two sentences later, I wrote:

   While we are busy defending the rights of people like this
   to speak freely (which we must do)
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In fact, Ingrid, you're so unobservant that you quoted _my_ summary of 
the announcement of attempted German censorship of the Zsite as if it was 
gospel truth, straight from the mouth of a "Censorship Buster"!  Did you 
miss it?  "Germany is now, STUPIDLY, censoring web pages declared unfit 
for minors" -- those are _my_ words, it's _my_ description of the 
situation.  You unintentionally called _me_ a "Censorship Buster," for 
which I shall be eternally grateful.

Now, please show us that you have an ounce of integrity, and inform your 
readers in tomorrow's Zgram that the "stupidly" comment you quoted was 
mine, and that the repeated committment to Zuendel's free speech rights 
are mine as well.  Please quote my entire message to your list.  I will 
repeat it here for your convenience:

   Sent:        10/3/96 10:21 AM
   To:          fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
   
   [Germany is now, stupidly, censoring web pages declared unfit for
   minors]
   
   >These are pages featured by Ernst Zuendel, a leading political
   >revisionist located in Canada whose purportedly "Neo-Nazi"
   >views have been the subject of much controversy in Germany.
   
   Corrections of fact...
   
   Ernst Zuendel is not a "revisionist," political or otherwise.  He
   denies the Holocaust happened;  that's not revisionist history,
   it's a lie.  And his views are not "purportedly" neo-Nazi;  he is
   a self-described National Socialist, he hangs pictures of Hitler
   around his house, he claims the world would be a better place if
   Adolf had won the war, that kind of thing.
   
   Incidentally, he also would like to ban material he believes to be
   "anti-German," such as "Schindler's List" (no joke). 
   
   
   While we are busy defending the rights of people like this to
   speak freely (which we must do), it is important not to deceive
   ourselves as to their real motives.  Terms like "leading political
   revisionist," "purportedly," and "controversy" make it easy to
   avoid that reality.

If you can't find the space to squeeze that whole message in, please just 
point your readers to this URL:

   http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/m/mccarthy.jamie/censorship-buster

It contains the text of this email to you.

Thank you.

--
 Jamie McCarthy          http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
 jamie@voyager.net        Co-Webmaster of http://www.nizkor.org/
 I'm a Zuendel-Certified "Censorship Buster."
 Hate mail will be posted.



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