Newsgroups: can.politics,bc.general,van.general Subject: Of Anti-Racists and Cockroaches Summary: Expires: References: <4brods$7ci@morgoth.sfu.ca> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: The Nizkor Project Keywords: Cc: I'm glad you're here, Mr. Mebesius - there are some questions I've been wanting to ask you for some time, relating to material you have posted to the "Stormfront" mailing list, maintained by that ex-Klan Grand Dragon, neo-nazi ex-con, Don Black. Perhaps you can clarify a few things.... Not too many months ago, I commented on the cowardice exhibited by George Burdi, who had been convicted of assault causing bodily harm after an incident during the 1993 Ottawa riot which followed an appearance by Mr. Burdi's "band," RaHoWa. The victim, a 110-pound female, had been kicked in her face with a steel-toed boot, and her nose was broken. In a Stormfront message of October 7, 1995, you made the following comment about my remarks: "This wannabe Nazi hunter thinks that it is cowardly for Heritage Front members to kick a loser-freak-misfit, "anti-racist" troublemaker in the head. Question: Does anyone cry for the cockroach when the boot of a pissed-off human being stomps on it? Since I have often displayed the quotation above during seminars dealing with hate speech and racism, I thought perhaps you might wish to clarify your position, so I don't misrepresent it. You seem to suggest that anyone, male or female, who is a "anti-racist troublemaker" should be considered no more than a cockroach. Is that a correct interpretation of your belief, Sir? On October 12, you provided some insight into your feelings about "white student unions:" "I don't know if it is a good idea for whites to form white student unions at universities and colleges. My concern is that it would make us appear to be like every other (crybaby) group on campus which says it needs special treatment. It is usually the misfits, losers, and freaks--the fags, dykes, chinks, ragheads, negroes, and left-wingers--who start these groups." I understand that someone is attempting to start up a "European Culture" student club at Simon Fraser University, where you apparently attend classes. Since using the label "European Culture" as a tactic to disguise neo-nazi recruiting has been previously employed here in Canada, I find that interesting. It is, of course, quite possibly a harmless exercise to form another student group - I don't have a problem with that. It may be, however, a smokescreen for another campus recruiting effort. Are you one of the "misfits, losers, and freaks - the fags, dykes, chinks, ragheads, negroes, and left-wingers" who is starting this group? "BUT, perhaps it is time for whites to rethink their rugged individualism, and organize themselves. The obvious, strategic, benefit of such white student unions would be that white students, who are exploring their instincts, and beginning to accept their racialist feelings as natural, will not be isolated. HOWEVER, such groups would be infiltrated by "anti-racists" and, maybe, even certain government security agencies; and if members of these student unions have any plans to work for the government (police, military, or whatever) they will be RED FLAGGED. I don't know if it is better for us white university students to tattoo our racialism on our foreheads, or if it is wiser for us to keep our heads down--until, at least, we can secure a good job, perhaps in a position of strategic importance. I don't know." Tell us, Mr. Mebesius... given your earlier comment about anti-racist "troublemakers" and "cockroaches," how you would deal with "anti-racists" who may wish to join this "European Culture" student group. Students at Simon Fraser University would probably find your remarks of interest, as I know that several have expressed concern to me about this group, and who may be promoting it. By the way - I read your article about the current shooting war in Vancouver with interest, and wondered why you felt it necessary to point out that some of the victims were "white?" Anyone caught in such violence is a victim, sir, no matter what colour they are, which leaves me wondering (although, in all honesty, not much) about your real agenda here. Newsgroups: talk.politics,can.politics,alt.politics.usa.republican,ca.politics,alt.impeach.clinton,alt.politics.clinton,alt.president.clinton,alt.politics.usa.newt-gingrich Subject: Re: COLLECTIVE GUILT: ANOTHER PERNICIOUS LIBERAL CONCEPT Summary: Expires: References: <4bq9e7$jnu@morgoth.sfu.ca> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: The Nizkor Project Keywords: Cc: In article <4bq9e7$jnu@morgoth.sfu.ca>, mebesius@sfu.ca wrote: >Mr. Lopez makes a good case for rejecting the liberal guilt complex. >However, he seems to be saying that such a collective guilt is applicable >to Nazi Germany (re: holocaust). Now this is bullshit. I'm not certain I understand you here. Are you saying that the German citizens who supported Hitler's power grab, and the subsequent war, should not be held responsible? >It is this type of thinking that makes perfectly normal white Christians >apologize for something they had nothing to do with. So "we" give What about "perfectly normal non-white Christians," Mr. Mebesius? And what sorts of things are these "perfectly normal" folks apologizing for? >pro-censorship Jewish organizations everything they ask for. Never mind Which "pro-censorship Jewish organizations" are you referring to, Mr. Mebesius? All Jewish organizations, or a selected few? Please name them, so we can have a basis for discussion. >freedom of expression, or anything like that, if Jews are offended by >anything, the state is obligated to silence those bad people who offend >the Jews. What we are doing, in effect, is paying war reparations to >a bunch of Jews (and victims of the week) who aren't victims, for crimes >we didn't commit. It's pathetic! You are a Canadian, Mr. Mebesius, not a German. What "war reparations" have you paid lately? I'm glad you're here, Mr. Mebesius - there are some questions I've been wanting to ask you for some time, relating to material you have posted to the "Stormfront" mailing list, maintained by that ex-Klan Grand Dragon, neo-nazi ex-con, Don Black. Perhaps you can clarify a few things.... Not too many months ago, I commented on the cowardice exhibited by George Burdi, the Canadian neo-Nazi Heritage Front organizer, former "reverend" Eric Hawthorne, aka George Hawthorne, who had been convicted of assault causing bodily harm after an incident during the 1993 Ottawa riot which followed an appearance by Mr. Burdi's "band," RaHoWa. The victim, a 110-pound female, had been kicked in her face with a steel-toed boot, and her nose was broken. In a Stormfront message of October 7, 1995, you made the following comment about my remarks: "This wannabe Nazi hunter thinks that it is cowardly for Heritage Front members to kick a loser-freak-misfit, "anti-racist" troublemaker in the head. Question: Does anyone cry for the cockroach when the boot of a pissed-off human being stomps on it? Since I have often displayed the quotation above during seminars dealing with hate speech and racism, I thought perhaps you might wish to clarify your position, so I don't misrepresent it. You seem to suggest that anyone, male or female, who is a "anti-racist troublemaker" should be considered no more than a cockroach. Is that a correct interpretation of your belief, Sir?
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