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From mgiwer@ix.netcom.com Fri Sep 20 15:53:06 PDT 1996
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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: USS Liberty: Interview with a Surviving Marine
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:40:33 GMT
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On Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:49:46 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:

>mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) writes:
># dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:

>## The "deliberate attack" theory is a myth, just like the
>## myth that the Israeli pilots were heard talking in
>## English (!!), and telling each other "why were we
>## ordered to attack an American ship?".

># You expected them to speak Hebrew?  Yiddish?

>Hebrew, of course. You're really crazy to think IDF pilots
>will be speaking in English?

	And you are very, very ignorant if you think one person in a hundred in Israel
speaks Hebrew beyond Torah reading.  Hebrew died out as a living language more
than two thousand years ago.  

>## The ship was misidentified as an Egyptian ship.

># Which is absolutely impossible due to size, profile,
># antennas and flag.

>Tell that to the American pilots who shot down two US
>helicopters over Iraq.

	Those helicopters were never in visual range.  And it was NOT done by murdering
jews.  

>Mistakes happen during wars. Period.

	The Liberty was examined for ten minutes before the murder started.  

	It is impossible for them not to know what they were doing.  

># You side with murderers.  You are no better than a murderer.

>Let it be noted again that Giwer defines everyone who disgrees
>with him about a certain historical event as a "murderer".

>A fine example for "revisionist support for freedom of speech".

	I define anyone who sides with murderers as a murder.  That means you, jew.  



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From mgiwer@ix.netcom.com Sun Sep 22 11:02:20 PDT 1996
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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
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Subject: Re: HAHAHAHA!  Giwer blows it for the N+1 Time where N > infinity
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On Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:22:22 -0300, Keith Morrison  wrote:

>Matt Giwer wrote:

>> >Hebrew, of course. You're really crazy to think IDF pilots
>> >will be speaking in English?
>> 
>>         And you are very, very ignorant if you think one person in a hundred in Israel
>> speaks Hebrew beyond Torah reading.  Hebrew died out as a living language more
>> than two thousand years ago.

>YES!  Yet another "My name be Matt Giwer and I is an idiot" statement.  Where to begin,
>where to begin?

>Oh hell, lets's just try that relatively comprehensive CIA World Factbook.

>Hmm.  Says Hebrew is the official language.  That would make it taught in
>schools, used by the government, business and industry.

>Want to reconsider that statement, Giwer?  Or would you rather have someone
>posting from Israel to humiliate you first?

	Gee, and all I said was who speaks it.  I said nothing about what feel-good law
there might designate.  

	Maybe you never watch ITN or CNN to hear live coverage of government speeches
given in english, on your TV they come through in hebrew.  Perhaps you can tell
me just how many street and shop signs you have seen in Hebrew.  How many times
have you seen Tel Aviv and Jerusalem spelled in hebrew characters?  

	Perhaps you are going to claim the Demjanjuk show trial was conducted in hebrew.


	Perhaps you claim Israeli laws are promulgated in hebrew?  

	Just what is it you are trying to claim?  That a law changes reality?  I have
known quite a few Israeli ciitzens and now one of them spoke hebrew although one
claimed the slight hebrew content in yiddish was good enough to claim to speak
Hebrew, but was the same man who insisted yiddish was not a german dialect.  

	It is amazing how far you folks will go to protect jewish murderers.  

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Everything about it is appealing,
Everything that traffic will allow.
No where can you get that happy feeling
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There's no business like Shoah business
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Everything about it is misleading
Everything about it seems a fraud
Can't you hear the rabbis when they're pleading
For more donations to their cause


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