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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Matt Giwer, here's the directions you wanted..
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 20:14:10 GMT
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References: <50u1vf$9lk@viper.txdirect.net> <519ghn$7s2@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>   <13SEP199623161663@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu>
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On 13 Sep 1996 23:16 MST, dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny
Mittleman) wrote:

>In article , joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) writes...
>>Would anybody, perchance, have an address or even just a city name for Mr. 
>>Giwer?  

>    Tampa, Florida (or in that area, at least).  He has posted his address
>    previously.  It may be on his web page.  The Cincinnati address, posted
>    recently (and below), is his parents' address.  No one should go
>    harrass his parents simply because Giwer is an asshole.  Their address
>    should not be posted on the net as they are not party to any discussion
>    here.

	Then why did Ken McVay call them?  

>>The following, which purports to be a message from him, appears to contain a 
>>threat to violence, which is generally acknowledged to be not merely naughty, 
>>but often illegal.

>    Rich Graves or Mike Stein can probably tell you if the headers and path
>    match other Giwer posts in order to authenticate it.

>    If you are going to consider this a serious threat you might want to
>    engage in e-mail correspondence with Yale and/or Ken who are both up to
>    date on the FBI investigation into Giwer's web activities.  The agents
>    investigating Giwer would probably be interested in the threat.  You
>    may also choose to pass the information on to NETCOM pointing out the
>    date and time of the post.  They may be amused that it comes so shortly
>    after they reinstated Giwer's account.

>>In article <51cbb1$rme@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  
>>Giwer) writes:>Path:
>>>winternet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!n
>>>ews.compuserve.com!ix.netcom.com!news
>>>From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>Subject: Re: Matt Giwer, here's the directions you wanted..
>>>Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:04:55 GMT
>>>Organization: images incarnate
>>>Lines: 49
>>>Message-ID: <51cbb1$rme@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>
>>>References: <50u1vf$9lk@viper.txdirect.net> <519ghn$7s2@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>
>>> <51c5te$rme@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>
>>>
>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: tam-fl16-14.ix.netcom.com
>>>X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Sep 13 12:06:09 PM PDT 1996
>>>X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
>> 
>> 
>>>On Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:54:15, joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg)
>>>wrote:
>> 
>>>>Start at xxxx Harrison Avenue in Cincinnati, Ohio.  It's not a good 
>>>>neighborhood -- smells kind of funny -- but it's a good starting place.  
>>>>Follow Harrison East for just over two and a half miles -- walking distance; 
>>>>it'd be shorter as the crow files -- until you come to the second set of 
>>>>railroad tracks.  
>> 
>>>>Walk due south until your hat floats. 
>> 
>>>>You'll feel better.  Trust me.  
>> 
>>>        Of course but he will kill you and if not my brother will kill you for
>>>even coming close.
>> 
>>>        You fucking jew traitor.  
>> 
>>>        You murdering Jews are all alike and you are not expected to be any
>>>different.  
>> 
>>>        Should lightening strike my family JEWS will be named because of you.
>>>And of course I will have you on my better dead list.  And I am good
>>>at it.  
>> 
>>>        You are advised to spend your time playing bodyguard to my family.
>> 
>>>        That is the only way you have to save yourself.  
>> 
>>>        Keep that firmly in mind.  
>>>=====
>> 
>>>There's no business like Shoah Business
>>>Like no business I know.
>>>Everything about it is appealing,
>>>Everything that traffic will allow.
>>>No where can you get that happy feeling
>>>Than when you're stealing
>> 
>>>There's no business like Shoah business
>>>It's like no business I know
>>>Everything about it is misleading
>>>Everything about it seems a fraud
>>>Can't you hear the rabbis when they're pleading
>>>For more donations to their cause
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>http://www.winternet.com/~joelr
>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0380973227/joelrosenbergA/
>>....and for the last bit of geekitry:  to receive the latest version of my FAQ, 
>>send me a message with the phrase "your FAQ" anywhere in the subject line.


=====

There's no business like Shoah Business
Like no business I know.
Everything about it is appealing,
Everything that traffic will allow.
No where can you get that happy feeling
Than when you're stealing

There's no business like Shoah business
It's like no business I know
Everything about it is misleading
Everything about it seems a fraud
Can't you hear the rabbis when they're pleading
For more donations to their cause

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