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From: dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
Subject: Giwer, the Crazed Liar, Strikes Again (Re: Degesh 0)
Message-ID: 
Organization: The World, Public Access Internet, Brookline, MA
References: <4q2qbf$2r1@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>  <4q3c4b$pun@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:17:28 GMT
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 wrote:
## dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote:

## So? I mean, did someone claim these delousing chambers did
## not exist?

# You did.

This is the final proof that you are an insane liar. I have
never said anything like this. I have never said nor wrote
that there were no delousing chambers.

Why do you have to lie so much? What kind of a disease is this?
All of you nazi-boys are liars, but you tell at least one lie
in practically each and every article you post. Why? Are you
a masochist? Do you *enjoy* the fact that people who read this
group will conclude that you are a pathological liar? Why?


-Danny Keren.




Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
From: dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren)
Subject: Re: Nizkor, Hoaxes are us
Message-ID: 
Organization: The World, Public Access Internet, Brookline, MA
References: <4q2qbf$2r1@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <4q4o4l$jn7@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>  <4q750f$84f@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:38:53 GMT
Lines: 68

mgiwer@ix.netcom.com writes:

# You appear to be very confused. 

I am not confused at the least. You wrote that I claimed no
delousing chambers ever existed. This is a lie, as not only
didn't I make such a claim, I also often mention the delousing
chambers in my article.

You are a pathological liar. Nothing new here. Probably
too late to change. 
 
## also asked you if Dr. Rascher's letter, about testing combat 
## gases on humans in Dachau, was really about delousing. 
 
# I do not remember such a question but if you will provide a 
# translation and a chain of evidence for it, I will render an
# opinion.

Files with jpeg of letter:

http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?miscellany/dkeren-incoming
 
(if this one fails, try
 
ftp://ftp.almanac.bc.ca/pub/miscellany/dkeren-incoming/ )

Racher1.jpg, Rascher2.jpg

Translation of relevant part (courtesy of Mr. Van-Alstine):


 
The following is a translation of a letter from the Bundesarchiv Koblenz.
 
This translation was taken from "Concentration Camp Dachau 1933-1945" 
(ISBN 3-87490-528-4), p. 169; (Plate 356 with translation.) 
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Dr. Sigmund Rascher                         Munich
                                            Trogertr. 56, August 9, 1942
 
Esteemed Reichsfuhrer!

 ......
 
As you know, the same installation as in Linz is to be built in Daschau.
As the "invalid transports" terminate in the special chambers anyway I
wondered if it would be possible to test the effects of our different
combat gases in these chambers using the persons who are destined for
these chambers anyway. The only reports which are available so far are of
experiments on animals or of accidents which occurred in the manufacture of
the gases. Because of this paragraph I am marking this letter "Secret".
 
 ......  
 



-Danny Keren.


-- 
In Message-ID: <4n0ik8$1a8@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, Matt Giwer
suggested that documents about a "gas chamber" and "gassing cellar"
in the Birkenau crematoriums didn't count, as they were really due
to "a morbid sense of humor" of the SS men who authored the documents.

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