From mgiwer@ix.netcom.com Thu Sep 26 19:30:44 PDT 1996
Article: 69105 of alt.revisionism
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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer)
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Subject: McVay, posting target of the week
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	Hey, folks, anyone in the groups where he posted this message interesting in
stomping on this clown needs to come to alt.revisionism and join in the fun.  He
is an American currently in the employ of 1B Systems of British Columbia (finger
nizkor).  He runs this Nizkor project on the 1B Systems internet access line.
1B Systems' primary funding comes through the US DOD.  CIA connections were
traceable until milnet purged several entries including his whois.  

	He is extraordinarily politically correct as are all of the holohuggers on this
conference.  The holohuggers are primarily loyal to Israel and support bending
the US to the political will of Israel.  He and they are in favor of every
minority at the expense of the majority by the use of force.  

	Note that he has an email address posted.  If that does not work try
@oneb.almanac.bc.ca and @oneb.bc.ca as alternatives. Other variations may also
work.  

	And whatever you do, minimize your use of Nizkor.  He is raising money and uses
the hit count to demonstrate how well the site is doing.  At last puiblic report
on alt.revisionism Nizkor did not have tax exempt status so check with the BC
government before you send your money.  

On 25 Sep 1996 23:08:14 -0700, kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
wrote:

>>mgiwer@worldnet.att.net (Matt  Giwer) writes:
>"... as you can do nothing but attack the messengers."

>     "Right on, fat broad.  Do you have do clean up McVay with your lips 
>        also? What a stupid and fat broad.  If you are interested in the 
>     dictionary it is right there before fatbroad.  The only way you got 
>       your title is by laying McVay and you know it.  You have no other 
>    qualifications.  You contribute nothing.  You accept only sperm from 
>       a thing." (Matt Giwer, at the height of vulgarity, June 22, 1996)

>>mgiwer@worldnet.att.net (Matt  Giwer) writes:
>"... as you can do nothing but attack the messengers."

>             "Of course I ahve [sic] not been to the museum, dumbtwat.... 
>             It is only a lying idiot dumbtwat who would suggest that 
>             visiting a particular museum is a sine que non for belief." 
>                                              (Matt Giwer, Sept. 4, 1996)

>This this is the selfsame besotted, loudmouthed blowhard that tucked 
>his tail firmly between his legs (there being little there to impede 
>this process) and bravely fled when offered a golden opportunity to 
>back up his mouth with his chequebook.

>That is, of course, because he isn't interested in discussing
>history - or anything else. He's akin to the small child,
>stomping his feet on the floor and demanding attention. And,
>as he's demonstrated in the past with his infantile behavior,
>he will say absolutely anything in order to provoke an
>argument - i.e., to get attention.

>Tiring of his endless stream of evasions, insults and outright
>lies, I offered him an opportunity to put his money where his
>mouth was, and demonstrate that he actually _believed_ the
>crap he serves up as his own pompous brand of historical "reality."

>I offered to let an independent forensics lab determine the
>issue, at, I might add, my expense if it should determine that
>this crude fellow was correct.

>What prompted his immediate "advance to the rear," of course,
>was the other side of the coin - that he would have to meet
>the cost, as a donation to the Nizkor Project, if his foolish
>contention turned out, as it must, to be completely, utterly 
>worthless. At that point, hoisted firmly on his own petard, 
>he ran like the cowardly bully he daily proves himself to be.

>For the details of my offer, I invite you to peruse
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html

>I further invite you, and anyone else among the estimated
>70-Million internet users, to regularly and routinely remind
>this prevaricating failure of a man of his cowardice by
>providing references to the URL cited, and to the offer he so
>obviously dreads.

>This coward, Matt Giwer, is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only
>interest is in causing fights.  While he can sound superficially
>plausible, he has lied about what has been said in exchanges (while
>accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not to
>see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even when
>they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel, and generally
>conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual and factual
>integrity that there seems to be no point in taking the time to read and
>respond.  

>For many here, no greater compliment can accrue than to be insulted by 
>this contemptable husk of a man.

>For detailed and documented evidence of this, please refer to

>URL http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/net-abuse/
>URL http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/lie-freely-admitted.html
>URL http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/email/
>URL http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/plagarized-01.html
>URL http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
>URL http://www.nizkor.org/encouragements/

>Followups to Giwer trolls should be redirected to Mr. Giwer's special 
>newsgroup, alt.bonehead.matt-giwer, where they will be appropriately 
>ignored. If your site does not carry alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,
>redirect non-Holocaust articles to alt.politics.white-power,
>an equally vapid dumping ground for Giwerundian babblings.


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