On June 15, 1996, you stated that: "In the process of burning the two bones most likely to be left are the pelvis and the skull. (Giwer, Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones) In response to subsequent questioning about the truth of this statement, you have made some claims about the human skeleton which, if true, would set the science of human skeletal biology on its ear, bones and all. In reply to a poster who asked you how many bones there are in the human skull and pelvis, you wrote: "The skull, two in an adult, counting the jaw, discounting the six small bones in the ear. The pelvis, one. (Giwer; Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones; June 16, 1996) When questioned about the accuracy of your answer by a poster who pointed out that the skull consists of several bones, you replied: "You are talking about the skull of a child before the skull is fused. (Giwer; Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones; June 18, 1996) In response to this, another poster repeatedly asked you what degree of closure (or fusion, if you prefer) there is in the lambdoidal, sagittal and coronal sutures of the human cranium, on average, by age 35. She pointed out that these are the major sutures of the cranial vault (skull), and cited human skeletal anatomy texts in which the answer could be found. Your final statement related to this matter was reiteration of your original claim: "The fact remains that the pelvis and the skull are the bones most likely to survive any form of cremation and the skull is never mentioned by those so-called eyewitnesses. (Giwer; Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones; June 22, 1996) As a qualified scientist perhaps you would answer the question about when and how completely the different bones of the skull fuse together. We know that in normal burial, the adult skull remains intact. But we also know that the skull consists of a number of bones, and that fusion of these different bones into a single mass remains incomplete well into adulthood. Please address the question related to closure and then explain why you think that after cremation, intact skulls should have been recovered and easily identified among the ashes removed from crematoria. Finsten, Laura. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 18, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message-ID: 4q6blf$pq3@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA. Finsten, Laura. Usenet alt.revisionism, alt.politics.white-power, June 21, 1996. Subject: "Re: Lets get this straight". Message-ID: 4qe4bk$bnr@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA Finsten, Laura. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 21, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message-ID: 4qe3dd$bnr@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA. Finsten, Laura. Usenet alt.revisionism, alt.politics.white-power, June 22, 1996. Subject: "Re: Lets get this straight". Message-ID: 4qqh560$11d@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA. Finsten, Laura. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 23, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message-ID: 4qklh3$ijo@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA. Giwer, Matt. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 15, 1996. Subject: "Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message -ID: 4pt67e$b7e@sjx-Ixn3.ix.netcom.com. Archived with URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/giwer.0696 Giwer, Matt. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 16, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message -ID: 4q09m3$a20@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com. Archived with URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/giwer.0696 Giwer, Matt. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 18, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message -ID: 4q517c$glj@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com. Archived with URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/giwer.0696 Giwer, Matt. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 18, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message -ID: 4qhn1p$6eb@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com. Archived with URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/giwer.0696 Morrison, Keith. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 16, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message -ID: 31C39013.67CE@unb.ca. Morrison, Keith. Usenet alt.revisionism, June 17, 1996. Subject: "Re: Dem bones, dem bones, dem dry bones". Message -ID: 31CSE87F.7786@unb.ca. Steele, D. Gentry and Claud A. Bramblett 1988 "The Anatomy and Biology of the Human Skeleton". College Station: Texas A&M University. p.57.
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