From bc.sympatico.ca!rajiv_gandhi Sat Sep 21 22:03:24 1996 Return-Path:Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0v4ghP-000QNLC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 22:03 PDT Received: from zorro.bctel.ca by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 21 SEP 96 22:02:57 PDT Received: (from nobody@localhost) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA28698 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vcta01m01-72.bctel.ca(207.102.33.72) by zorro.bctel.ca via smap (V1.3) id sma028672; Sat Sep 21 21:54:01 1996 X-Sender: a1a04360@mail.bctel.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:55:31 -0700 To: "Kenneth McVay OBC" From: "Rajiv K. Gandhi" Subject: Mailbomb Report Status: RO [What follows is a slightly edited version of the letter forwarded to abuse@worldnet.att.net] On September 20, 1996, at 10:53 PM (PST) I was subject to a mailbomb attack, initiated by a Worldnet customer, namely Mathias Giwer (mgiwer@worldnet.att.net). The subject of the mailbomb was an article I had posted to the Usenet, in the newsgroup alt.revisionism - the header of which follows: Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:58:37 -0700 From: rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) To: mgiwer@worldnet.att.net (Matt Giwer) Subject: Re: 'There Was No Longer Any Escape' Organization: The Celyddon Forest Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13 As you will note, a copy of this article was forwarded to Mr. Giwer. In response, Mr. Giwer chose to abuse his Worldnet connection by sending me 104 copies of this article. The article itself was unedited, save for the attachment, to each copy, of a nine line advertisement for his website, currently housed with another service provider. It should be noted for the record that my posting to the Usenet, was in response to an article posted by Mr. Giwer using his Worldnet service. [Also for the record, it should be noted that my comments in that article stem from an endless number of articles posted by Mr. Giwer on Friday night - all containing various death threats, insults, and rants against posters and Jews in general. Anybody who is interested in finding these articles should look to the following: Subject: fucking jew traitors Message-ID: <51vpfh$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Photographs: EINSATZGRUPPEN Massacres Message-ID: <51vij8$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Photograph: Rascher's Letter Concerning the Dachau Gas Chamber Message-ID: <51vk8c$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: 'There Was No Longer Any Escape' Message-ID: <51vnk7$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian Message-ID: <51vpt0$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Matt Giwer, here's the directions you wanted.. Message-ID: <51vpah$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>] As a longtime Internet user, I am well aware of the dangers in an environment where the enforcement of simple etiquette is generally not feasible before the fact. I also understand the right for those connected to the Internet to express themselves freely. I fact, I support this. Alt.revisionism is a forum where people may discuss the fact of the Holocaust without sanction. I support Mr. Giwer's right to his freedom of expression. However, what I do not support are Mr. Giwer's attempts to abuse his connection to the Internet. I do not mind that ANYBODY sends me e-mail if they should choose it as the method to express an opinion. However, I do not want to be harassed. Mailbombing is harassment. A single copy of the mailbomb letter, which, again, was delivered to me 104 times, follows, with headers intact: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Received: (from nobody@localhost) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA28068 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.worldnet.att.net(204.127.129.4) by zorro.bctel.ca via smap (V1.3) id sma028060; Fri Sep 20 21:31:21 1996 Received: from LOCALNAME ([199.70.220.117]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAV18597 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:33:13 +0000 X-Sender: mgiwer@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 To: rajiv_gandhi@bc.sympatico.ca (Rajiv K. Gandhi) From: Matt Giwer Subject: Re: 'There Was No Longer Any Escape' Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <19960921043133.AAV18597@LOCALNAME> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1822 Status: At 03:58 AM 9/21/96 +0000, you wrote: >(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: >alt.revisionism) > >In article <51vnk7$bab@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, >mgiwer@worldnet.att.net (Matt Giwer) wrote: > >> On Thu, 19 Sep 1996 22:04:29 GMT, dkeren@world.std.com (Daniel Keren) wrote: >> >> >mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) writes: >> >> ># The infamous "tube" of Treblinka appears closer to the British >> ># use of the word meaning subway, rather to American English >> ># capitalization could perhaps serve best as "the Passageway." >> ># By analogy, perhaps was a German analogy to the submarine >> ># term and a better translation would be "trash chute. >> >> >The German word is "schlauch". It referred to the curved >> >passageway that led to the gas chambers. I agree that "tube" >> >is not a very good translation. >> >> >> Scum lying murderers like you are never to be trusted. > >You know, there can be no other explanation for this continued barrage of >blatherings except to conclude that you are either having a minor stroke >or you are drunk. Whichever it is, please get help. > >[incoherent Giwer .sig deleted] > >[Posted/emailed - warning: attempts at mailbombs will be automatically >filtered, filed; copies will be returned to sender and to sender's ISP] > --------------------------------------------------------------- Live fast, love well, and have a glorious Website. http://www2.combase.com/~mgiwer/ Commentary from the right side of the curve Maintaining http://www2.combase.com/~mgiwer/tech/ (tips and tricks for webs) http://www2.combase.com/~mgiwer/mgiwer4/ (eye candy, blantant advertising) http://www2.combase.com/~matt/ (my son) http://www2.combase.com/~matt/mega/ (for internet advertising) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [ Upon notification of this mailbomb, I immediately placed a call to Worldnet, and talked to a gentleman in Worldnet Tech Support who took my complaint over the telephone and provided me with a file number. He then urged me to send email to the webmasterworldnet.att.net. I was informed that Worldnet has a three strikes rule with respect to net abuse. The gentleman further informed me that he might have a quick gander at alt.revisionism to see the kind of things that get posted. (Since Friday September 20 was not a good night for coherent, threatless Giwer posts, I would think that this does not bode well for Giwer.) The following day (September 21) I received a second call from a lady at Worldnet Customer Service who also requested that I forward her a copy of the e-mail, and that one copy should go to abuse@worldnet.att.net. Apparently Worldnet takes this kind of thing quite seriously. Also, for the record, I requested only that Worldnet takes steps to ensure that Giwer is educated with respect to Usenet etiquette and that he be instructed to refrain from further mailbombings. I also provided them with a link to Giwer's net-abuse directory at Nizkor and urged them to review it so as to become familiar with past Giwer tactics.]
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