Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 23:48:48 -0800
To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca
Subject: Giwer Trolls....

Hi Ken - FYI:


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Matt Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) has in the past few weeks posted the
material quoted below. These posts appeared in any one or all of the
following 18 groups: 


alt.current-events.usa

alt.fan.g-gordon-liddy

alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

alt.politics.clinton

alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.democrats.d

alt.politics.equality

alt.politics.libertarian

alt.politics.radical-left

alt.politics.reform,alt.politics.usa.congress

alt.politics.usa.constitution

alt.politics.usa.misc

alt.politics.usa.newt-gingrich

alt.politics.usa.republican

alt.president.clinton

alt.revisionism

dc.politics

talk.politics.libertarian

talk.politics.misc


This of course constitues a spam. In a span of five days, from 19
August 1996 to 24 August 1996, Giwer posted the information at least 34
times under various subject titles. Message-IDs are listed as follows:


[Please note all times are GMT. A search for articles containing the
material quoted below on DejaNews yielded  52 results. These messages
were culled from what was still available on my local ISP server. I
probably missed some, since my filtering is somewhat limited.]


Date		 Time	  Message-ID

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MonacoMon, 19 Aug 1996 09:34:43 Message-ID:
<<4v9cm6$18j@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:34:57 Message-ID:
<<4v9cmk$18j@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:55:02 Message-ID:
<<4v9ds9$18j@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:10:48 Message-ID:
<<4v9epr$18j@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>


Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:33:58 Message-ID:
<<4vb4t1$788@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:44:36 Message-ID:
<<4vb5gv$788@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:54:36 Message-ID:
<<4vb63o$788@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:31:30 Message-ID:
<<4vbfa2$gtr@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 05:48:59 Message-ID:
<<4vbjra$ksq@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:23:29 Message-ID:
<<4vbpce$ksq@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:36:35 Message-ID:
<<4vbq4u$ksq@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>

Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:10:11 Message-ID:
<<4vbvkf$ksq@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>


Wed, 21 Aug 1996 01:23:16 Message-ID:
<<4vdokq$g32@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 05:01:25 Message-ID:
<<4ve5e1$llp@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 05:06:14 Message-ID:
<<4ve5ms$llp@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 05:50:45 Message-ID:
<<4ve8ae$llp@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 05:50:45 Message-ID:
<<4ve8ae$llp@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:38:30 Message-ID:
<<4vellg$jtm@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:46:15 Message-ID:
<<4vem41$jtm@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>

Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:19:31 Message-ID:
<<4veriu$o2d@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>


Fri, 23 Aug 1996 01:29:43 Message-ID:
<<4vj1pb$m8o@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:12:15 Message-ID:
<<4vjib9$ib3@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>

Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:01:43 Message-ID:
<<4vjs8v$ib3@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>

Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:46:13 Message-ID:
<<4vk2ct$ib3@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>


Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:09:37 Message-ID:
<<4vlhfi$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:11:31 Message-ID:
<<4vlhj2$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:11:31 Message-ID:
<<4vlhj2$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:59:43 Message-ID:
<<4vlkde$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:11:13 Message-ID:
<<4vll31$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:11:13 Message-ID:
<<4vll31$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:12:28 Message-ID:
<<4vll5c$gk9@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 08:41:01 Message-ID:
<<4vmf45$sne@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:06:30 Message-ID:
<<4vmgjt$1ps@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>

Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:27:05 Message-ID:
<<4vmhqf$1ps@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>



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