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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: STANFORD U participating in email harrassment
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:08:47 GMT
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        This one came through five minutes after the post demonstrating that
Greenies bot on the server is supported by Stanford University and they
will do nothing to stop this email harrassment.

        That makes Stanford University the same piece of harrassing shit that is
Greenie is.  

        Of course copies are being sent to root and if there is no response I
will persue the Stanford web site as far as necessary to to inform them
of his use of their computers for the purpose of email harrassment.  

        He thinks he is being clever.  Rather he is making Stanford U a party to
his harrassment.  

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From: "Richard J. Green" 
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To: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Greenie games
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>       This is a tale of using the Stanford internet link for email
>harrassment.  If this continues Stanford is a legitimate target.  

>       

>       The greenie game is to pretend my public posts are in fact private email
>and then complain about it.  He is specializing in this form of created
>harassment. 

>       It is difficult to believe that anyone but a holohugger is stupid enough
>to fall for this approach.  

>       As this message was sent barely 30 minutes before the response it
>appears that he is using a bot to create this email.  

>       In other words, it is another holohugger form of harrassment as that is
>the only thing they have left.  

>       You will note the wording of the objection is EXACTLY the same as the
>last exchange.  

>       I other words his university is operating and automated harrassment
>script.  

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>From: "Richard J. Green" 
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>To: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
>Subject: Re: Irving's 'Goebbels' book now available
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>>On 20 Jun 1996 21:22:36 -0700, rjg@d31rz0.Stanford.EDU (Richard J.
>>Green) wrote:

>>>Is the IHR the only source for this book?  If I want a copy but don't
>>>want to support the IHR, is there a way I can get one?

>>      It is called a rock an a hard place.  

>>      Get over it.
>>      

>Mr. Giwer,

>I have asked you not to send me private mail.
>Your mail is being returned to you unread.
>At present I am not sending a copy to root@ix.netcom.com, but I may
>choose to do so in the future.

>Rich Green

>Mr. Giwer's ad hominem attacks should be understood as an admission that
>he is wrong.  Experience has led me to believe that Mr. Giwer is not at
>all interested in serious conversation.  While he can sound
>superficially
>plausible, he has lied about what has been said in exchanges (while
>accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not to
>see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even when
>they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel, and generally
>conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual and factual
>integrity that there seems to be no point in taking the time to read and
>respond except to make it clear that his arguments cannot be taken
>seriously.  For detailed and documented evidence of this behaviour, 
>please refer to

>URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt

>      "Are you saying that I should have insulting the Jewish
>      reputation for integrity by saying only Jew and thus
>      implying that we is observant?"  --Matt Giwer
>       (Translation into English not yet available.)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Richard J. Green                                Dept. of Chemistry
>rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU                          Stanford University     
>http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud        Stanford, CA 94305-5080
>       "Remember the days of yore,
>       "Learn the lessons of the generation that came before you."
>               -Deuteronomy 32:7




Mr. Giwer,

I have asked you not to send me private mail.
Your mail is being returned to you unread.
At present I am not sending a copy to root@ix.netcom.com, but I may
choose to do so in the future.

Rich Green

Mr. Giwer's ad hominem attacks should be understood as an admission that
he is wrong.  Experience has led me to believe that Mr. Giwer is not at
all interested in serious conversation.  While he can sound
superficially
plausible, he has lied about what has been said in exchanges (while
accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not to
see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even when
they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel, and generally
conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual and factual
integrity that there seems to be no point in taking the time to read and
respond except to make it clear that his arguments cannot be taken
seriously.  For detailed and documented evidence of this behaviour, 
please refer to

URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt

      "Are you saying that I should have insulting the Jewish
      reputation for integrity by saying only Jew and thus
      implying that we is observant?"  --Matt Giwer
        (Translation into English not yet available.)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Richard J. Green                                Dept. of Chemistry
rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU                          Stanford University     
http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud        Stanford, CA 94305-5080
        "Remember the days of yore,
        "Learn the lessons of the generation that came before you."
                -Deuteronomy 32:7

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