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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: The greenbot continues, holohugger harressment
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:02:45 GMT
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Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 02:56:35 -0700
From: "Richard J. Green" 
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To: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: STANFORD U participating in email harrassment
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>At 02:11 AM 6/22/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>>     This one came through five minutes after the post demonstrating that
>>>Greenies bot on the server is supported by Stanford University and they
>>>will do nothing to stop this email harrassment.
>>
>>>     That makes Stanford University the same piece of harrassing shit that is
>>>Greenie is.  
>>
>>>     Of course copies are being sent to root and if there is no response I
>>>will persue the Stanford web site as far as necessary to to inform them
>>>of his use of their computers for the purpose of email harrassment.  
>>
>>>     He thinks he is being clever.  Rather he is making Stanford U a party to
>>>his harrassment.  


>        Very clearly here is the problem. 

>        You have a Richard J. Green who claims to be in your Chemistry
>Department.

>        He has a bot set up so that any mention of his posts by me in
>alt.revisionism results in email to me.  

>        This is a form of harrassment.  I expect it to stop immediately. 

>        I will pursue this as high as possible if it does not cease.  

>        I hope I am making myself clear.  I will go to the accreditation
>board if necessary.  I know what I am doing.  

>        I will send you all of the evidence needed upon request.  I have no
>interest in flooding you at this time.  But this will stop.  


>---------------------------------------------------------------
>     Live fast, love well, and have a glorious Website.

>              http://www2.combase.com/~mgiwer/
>          Commentary from the right side of the curve
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> http://www2.combase.com/~mgiwer/mgiwer4/ (eye candy, blantant advertising)
>            http://www2.combase.com/~matt/  (my son)
>http://www2.combase.com/~matt/mega/ (for internet advertising)

Mr. Giwer,

I have asked you not to send me private mail.
Your mail is being returned to you unread.
At present I am not sending a copy to root@ix.netcom.com, but I may
choose to do so in the future.

Rich Green

Mr. Giwer's ad hominem attacks should be understood as an admission that
he is wrong.  Experience has led me to believe that Mr. Giwer is not at
all interested in serious conversation.  While he can sound
superficially
plausible, he has lied about what has been said in exchanges (while
accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not to
see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even when
they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel, and generally
conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual and factual
integrity that there seems to be no point in taking the time to read and
respond except to make it clear that his arguments cannot be taken
seriously.  For detailed and documented evidence of this behaviour, 
please refer to

URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt

      "Are you saying that I should have insulting the Jewish
      reputation for integrity by saying only Jew and thus
      implying that we is observant?"  --Matt Giwer
        (Translation into English not yet available.)
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Richard J. Green                                Dept. of Chemistry
rjg@lyman.Stanford.EDU                          Stanford University     
http://www-leland.Stanford.EDU/~redcloud        Stanford, CA 94305-5080
        "Remember the days of yore,
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                -Deuteronomy 32:7

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