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From: mgiwer@ix.netcom.com
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Subject: a new approach
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 07:23:22 GMT
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        I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning the
holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.  

        Do you folks really want to continue this?  







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From: schwartz@infinet.com
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Subject: Re: a new approach
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:47:25 -0400
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In article <4r7ujb$1us@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>         I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
> holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning the
> holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.  
> 
>         Do you folks really want to continue this?  
 
Mr. Giwer shows his true colors. He has the tactics of a 4-year-old.
 
So much for the famous 163 IQ.
 
Sara

-- 
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if you don't go forward, you go back.
You can't "Giddy-up" by saying "Whoa"
and sitting on your status quo.
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From: abels@stud-mailer.uni-marburg.de (Nele Abels)
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Subject: Re: a new approach
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mgiwer@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>       I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
>holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning the
>holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.

I think this would be a valuable idea (no irony intended), because then you would
actually present _texts_ and not only cut-and-paste quotations of other people's posts.
I prefer having something to base a reply on, as you probably know.

Nele







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From: jamie@voyager.net (Jamie McCarthy)
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Subject: Re: a new approach
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In article <4r7ujb$1us@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>,
Matt Giwer (mgiwer@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

> I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
> holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning
> the holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.  

I see -- so your spam will increase n-fold.  Thanks for warning us.

> Do you folks really want to continue this?

What could we do to stop your spamming, Mr. Giwer?

It's clear that you already consider an "attack" to be anything which
you do not like -- for example, a lighthearted tangential reference to
you as a "troll" is enough to set you off.  Or a pun ("Giwerdly Lion").
Or a mention of the fact that you are abusing the net.

Even a simple mention of the fact that you engage in ad hominem attacks,
Mr. Giwer, is enough to trigger your spam finger.  Apparently saying
that someone else engages in ad hominem is itself ad hominem.  I guess
you're allowed to call my colleague a "simpering bitch," as you did
earlier today, and I'm forbidden from even pointing that out.  That
hardly seems fair, Mr. Giwer.

http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/simpering-bitch

So, since you've decreed that every form of expression is off-limits
except that of your friends -- what could we do to stop you?

Posted;  not emailed, for reasons explained previously.
-- 
 Jamie McCarthy          http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
 jamie@voyager.net     Co-Webmaster of http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
 Hate mail will be posted.







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From: Marty Kelley 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: a new approach
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:13:06 -0700
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On Mon, 1 Jul 1996 mgiwer@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>       I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
> holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning the
> holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.  
> 
>       Do you folks really want to continue this?  

May I suggest another approach altogether, Mr. Giwer?  How about this: 

1) Engage in honest discussion of particular facts, using clearly 
identified, documented sources to support your claims.  

2) Ignore personal insults directed at you, and refrain from engaging 
in insults against others.  

Your taking those actions would do a great deal to elevate the 
level of discourse in this group.  

I'll gladly take this "pledge" myself.


----------------------
Marty Kelley  (mkelley@U.Arizona.EDU)

"All that I care to know is that a man is a human being--
that is enough for me; he can't be any worse."
                                        --Mark Twain







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From: mstein@access5.digex.net (Michael P. Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: a new approach
Date: 1 Jul 1996 15:51:09 -0400
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In article <4r7ujb$1us@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>,
  wrote:
>       I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
>holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning the
>holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.  
>
>       Do you folks really want to continue this?  

    I don't attack anyone for questioning the holocaust dogma.  I attack
people for lies and intellectual dishonesty.  Occasionally that includes my
supposed allies.

    Why don't you attack the many errors in my response to Friedrich Berg now
that I have posted the whole thing?  It's on topic.  What are you waiting for?
Don't you want to continue this on-topic discussion of a particular
revisionist theory?
-- 
Mike Stein                      The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420                       Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA  22210            position of my employer.







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From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.bonehead.matt-giwer
Subject: Re: a new approach
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In article <31D8064F.7536@unb.ca>, Keith Morrison  wrote:

>mgiwer@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>>         I have not decided upon this as yet but I am considering posting
>> holocaust truths in response to any attack upon anyone questioning the
>> holocaust dogma, not just those attacking me.

>>         Do you folks really want to continue this?

>What's the matter?  Your "secret techniques" not working as well
>as you had hoped?

Is he still here, Keith? Oh, yes! I do recall seeing a G*WER
REPORT earlier today... looks like he's still here, but
running out of steam. Perhaps his alterposters tired of the
game, and left the Giwerdly Lion to his own manure pile.

(Actually, it's sort of pathetic... "do you folks really
want to continue this" means he's getting weary - he's the
only one playing - with himself, so to speak.)

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