From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Sun Oct  1 08:51:45 PDT 1995
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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"The Order" on _Turning Point_, October 5th, 1995

The edition of ABC's _Turning Point_ regarding the Aryan revolutionary group
known as "the Order," was preempted September 28th by a special report on the
Simpson trial.  ABC has reportedly rescheduled the program for this coming
Thursday, October 5th.

-----

"The Enemy Interviews David Lane"

An intimate and candid conversation with political prisoner David Lane on video
cassette, interviewed by ABC News correspondent Merideth Vieira, for the program
_Turning Point_.  Approximately two and a half hours running time.

The first and only interview of its kind by a member of the Bruder Schweigen
since "the Order" was incarcerated over ten years ago.  Insightful and powerful
viewing for all who understand the evil that is the US Government. 

The full, unedited, unmanipulated version is available for $30 postpaid.

Exclusively from:

14 Word Press
HC01 Box 268K
St Maries ID  83861

-----

  We must secure the existence of our People and a future for White children.



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Oct  1 14:34:09 PDT 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Evelyn Hill Is A Fucking Nazi!
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JS (johnz@aa.net) writes:
 
>> There are several reasons various people hate National Socialism.  One,
>> the person is a Jew, and the reason for their hatred is obvious.
 
> Most people object to being massacred, for some reason...

Not being able to screw the _Goyim_ out of their wealth *IS* a "massacre" to
most Jews...

>   Two, the
>> person has a vested interest in a competing socio-political system, such
>> as a capitalist who desires undeserved profits from the working people,
>> and realizes NS threatens his profiteering.

> I hope Mr. Kleim's above remark will settle once and for all that the
> "Socialism" in "National Socialism" means exactly what it says, and that
> National Socialism is -not- a more extreme version of American
> Capitalist/Conservatism/Libertarianism as many leftists like to pretend.
> Naziism is anti-capitalist, - it's a genuine revolutionary movement with
> the destruction of modern society as it's aim. 

Indeed!

I've never pretended to be something other than a socialist.  

We offer society a just alternative between the racket of the Bolsheviks,
and the racket of the capitalists.  Whereas one ostensibly appeals to working
people, and one ostensibly appeals to the middle class and of course to the
leisure class, we seek to unify the Nation without regard to artificial
"class" lines.

We are invaribly opposed to the communist criminals' plan to steal land
and property from the "bourgeosie," as well as to the capitalist
criminals' plan to steal earnings of working men and women by paying them
the minimum they can without regard for the actual labor workers expend in
making a product.  The Bolsheviks do it through expropriation, the
capitalists do it thorugh exorbitant prices and criminally low wages -- as
well as usury.

National Socialists endorse free enterprise for small and medium sized
businesses with a minimum of restrictions.  Large and/or strategic
industries must be regulated to prevent them from establishing a tyranny
of money, as they have done so today (I find it odd that "conservatives"
NEVER complain about the tyranny of money over society).

> I will also suggest that liberals or leftists who think that the
> "Christian Right" are proto-Nazis should read Kleims statement below...
 
>>       National Socialists realize the present dominant paradigm, based upon 
>>    Judaic thought, blasphemes the Creator's Will.  Cultural-diversity destroy-
>>    ing "universalist" ideologies such as Judeo-Christianity, Capitalism, Marx-
>>    ism, and Internationalism, founded upon the Jewish Ideal of circumvention 
>>    of the Creator's Will _must_ be rejected (snip)

Your implication is correct again.  The "liberals" attack Christian
conservatives with the "Nazi" label because that is the most "terrible"
image their controlled media and academic prostitutes have conjured up in
this society.

We National Socialist have very little in common with Christians of any
variety, other than a general interest in a healthy society and living
an ethical lifestyle.  Our cosmology is quite different when one looks
objectively at the two systems.



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Oct  1 14:34:10 PDT 1995
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William Katcher vomits:

> In article Nazi-Boy Milton Klein, AKA <73323.603@compuserve.com> spewed:
                             ^^^^^

Wrongo, Jew-boy.  That's KleiM.

Further, this posting was not mine.  It's from the account of Kevin Alfred
Strom, at the National Alliance National Office.

>>* Remember: volume and regularity.
 
> This is called spamming FYI.  It is a typical action of net.kooks.

Then you have "spammed."  You have posted more than once in the past week,
and by your definition of "spamming," you have spammed.

Repeated posting over a period of time is NOT spamming.  Multiple posting
at one time is spamming.  

>>* Remember: our overall USENET strategy must be to repeat powerful themes OVER
>>  AND OVER AND OVER.  
 
> Spamming, you mean.  I guess this post is a warning that the SNR
> of Usenet will be going down even further.

No, I mean repeated dissemination of the facts which we present.

>>* WARNING: Be aware that EVERYTHING you post will be seen by the Enemy.  All of
>>  your posts may be catalogued and archived for future use by the Enemy, either
>>  by self-appointed "Net police" like the notorious Ken Mcvay, 
 
> Notorious?  Good!  The truth is pissing them off Ken--keep up
> the good work!

Yes, please do, Kenny.  You're our best ally!  You're our best promoter,
giving us all that publicity which we seek.

>>  or by lurkers
>>  from the so-called "Anti-Defamation League."
 
> No, that IS what they call themselves.

"America Destruction League" is more appropriate and accurate.



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Oct  1 14:34:11 PDT 1995
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Steve D. Fischer replies to me:

>>I've never pretended to be something other than a socialist.  
> ...... lines deleted .....
 
>>We are invaribly opposed to the communist criminals' plan to steal land
>>and property from the "bourgeosie," as well as to the capitalist
>>criminals' plan to steal earnings of working men and women by paying them
>>the minimum they can without regard for the actual labor workers expend in
>>making a product.
> ...... lines deleted ......
 
>      What the hell do you mean by "actual labor?"  Is eight hours of work
> worth the same amount to all workers regardless of how many long hard years
> of schooling some workers must endure in order to be able to perform some
> highly skilled tasks?  
 
Worker works for 8 hours a day.  Each "widget" made takes one hour to make
by one worker.  Worker is paid $5.00 an hour, the parts and other
expenses (power, transportation, packaging, administration, etc.) is
$10.00, each "widget" is sold for $29.95.

How is it justified that the "businessman/men" makes $14.95?  Why not justify
bank robbery since the criminal "obviously" is more skilled than the rest
of us?

>      ANYONE can dig a ditch.  
 
>      Few can design an airplane.
 
>      Few can do brain surgery.  
 
>      Are you suggesting that people with the brains and training to do high 
> skill tasks are to be valued the same as those who can do brainless manual 
> labor?  Try that and see how fast the skilled labor pours OUT of your 
> country and into someone else's country - where their skills are more 
> appreciated.

Is a garbage collector less important than a doctor?  Let the trash pile
up for weeks on end, and you'll need more doctors than you can find.

EVERYONE should be paid a just wage for their labors.  I'm not saying
everyone needs to be paid the same, just that even the lowest paid workers
should be allocated more than a legalized slavery existence.


From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Sun Oct  1 14:34:49 PDT 1995
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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Subject: Re: Evelyn Hill Is A Fucking Nazi!
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Michael McGowran replies to me:

>> There are several reasons various people hate National Socialism.  One,
>> the person is a Jew, and the reason for their hatred is obvious.  Two, the
>> person has a vested interest in a competing socio-political system, such
>> as a capitalist who desires undeserved profits from the working people,
>> and realizes NS threatens his profiteering.  Third, and most commonly, the
>> person is ignorant of what NS is really about, because he has listened to
>> what the Jewsmedia or an old man from the WWII era has taught him (and of
>> course the latter's perspective is mostly influenced by wartime propaganda), 
>> and has not analyzed the matter objectively, honestly, and/or thoroughly.  
>> Evelyn is indeed correct in asserting that the so-called "entertainment" 
>> media is the primary source for what the average American knows about various 
>> "politically incorrect" matters and ideas, and since the Jewsmedia routinely 
>> and deliberately falsifies (or at best distorts, by focusing ONLY on the 
>> negative things of the target, without addressing the positive things) the 
>> factual data about the subject, the average American has a false perception 
>> of such subjects as NS.

>I fall into none of these three categories and I hate National socialism.
>It is the antithesis of freedom, democracy and human rights.

You do indeed fall into one of the categories, and your last sentence reveals
which one it is.  Your world view is based upon an abstract principle which has
no basis in reality, other than it is rooted in the materialist-egoism of the
modern world.  Explain what you mean by "freedom," "democracy," and "human
rights."  You are anti-NS because your interests, namely your egotist material-
ism, conflicts with the ideals of National Socialism; you want "freedom" from
responsibility to your People.

>> The original German documents are clear enough for the honest person to read
>> and make their own judgment.  I ask them to do so.
 
>> The simple fact is that the Reich government ENCOURAGED German citizens to
>> possess firearms for the defense of the Nation.  

>Just as long as they were't Jewish German citizens, huh?

There was no such thing as a "Jewish German citizen."  Either one was German OR
Jewish during the Third Reich. 

>> Why do you worship Hitler?
 
>>       National Socialists do not "worship" Adolf Hitler.  National Socialists 
>>    _do_ offer Hitler deserving veneration for his role in bringing our Race a 
>>    message of hope through his leadership of the German People, and as vision-
>>    ary of a new Europe and a new world.

>A new world, where anyone who opposed what he was trying to do was arrested at
>gunpoint and put into labour and concentration camps. 

You shouldn't really talk about your Prime Minister like that.  It is well 
known that Winstooge Churchill locked up anyone who had the POTENTIAL of causing
him trouble during the War.

Or perhaps we should discuss the "ally," Bolshevik Russia, which YOUR
government supported and cooperated with (and therefore was an accomplice to 
the millions of dead throughout Eastern Europe inflicted by Jewish Communism).

>He might have been elected initially but his vision was of a world as a 
>totalitarian dictatorship.

I challenge you to detail how Franklin Rosenfeld's (or Winstooge Churchill's)
"vision" was not one of global domination and tyranny.  Or again, what about
Uncle Joe???

>>       National Socialists recognize that while Hitler was an outstanding lead-
>>    er, he was human, capable of error.

>Presumably such trivial errors as starting the second world war?

The British and French governments escalated the Polish-German conflict into a
continental war.

>>       National Socialism does not endorse dictatorship; that is, a political 
>>    apparatus that functions contrary to the Will and best interests of the
>>    People, as does the present System.  National Socialism endorses the "lead-
>>    ership principle," or the idea that a Nation is best governed by those 
>>    most capable of guiding his or her fellow citizens and providing for 
>>    their common needs and wants.

>And who chooses these most capable people? A democracy is where the people
>choose them, if not that then it's a dictatorship.

Hitler's government was a _true_ democracy (i.e. rule of the People).  In the
Rousseauian tradition, Hitler emobodied the Will of the Nation, and the German
Volk were allowed to endorse or reject Hitler and his system.  They over-
whelmingly endorsed him (over 80% in four referenda -- when was the last
British government that received even 70%?).

>> Why don't you believe in human rights?
 
>>       National Socialists believe that a People's right to choose how they live 
>>    with whom they choose to live -- the right of self-determination -- is 
>>    _the_ most fundamental, inalienable human right.

>Does this human right apply to all races then? From this statement you're 
>saying people can decide to enter into "mixed" marriages and engage in 
>homosexual acts. 

If they wish -- OUTSIDE of Aryan North America (or Europe).  We don't care what
they do in their own countries.  Actually, if they destroy themselves, so much
the better.

>>    Unfortunately, centuries-old, myopic cultural antipathy 
>>    between Slavic and Teutonic Nations did, and does manifest itself, oc-
>>    casionally resulting in misunderstanding and conflict, including the 1939 
>>    Polish-German War.

>Misunderstanding? The Germans invaded Poland and slaughtered it's army, that's
>some "misunderstanding"!  

The Germans did no such thing.  They soundly defeated the Polish Army, but did
not "slaughter" it.  The Polish government had for months been making hostile
gestures of war towards Germany, even while Hitler, et.al., had tried to solve
the Corridor problem peacefully.  The Poles got what they bragged they would
win.

Shall we discuss Churchill's proposal to invade Norway (the Germans beat him),
or his thought of using chemical and biological weapons against German
CIVILIANS?  Or perhaps we should discuss Dresden and Hamburg?  When did the
Luftwaffe ever even come CLOSE to those atrocities in Britain?

[re: the Hoaxocaust]

>If you really believe this then please read sites such as "The Nizkor Project"
>and actually READ what they have to say, they are quite capable of refuting such
>blatant historical revisionism.

Kenny better try harder to convince me.  I've read just about everything Kenny
has to offer, but it's still the same old tired garbage that has been spewed by
the Establishment propaganda machine since 1933.

>It is thanks to "criminals" like Roosevelt and Churchill that we have a
>democratic, free Europe today and not a Nazi dictatorship.

No, Rosenfeld and Churchill just COLLABORATED with Uncle Joe and gave the
peoples of Eastern Europe a brutal tyranny they have not yet recovered from.
They gave Europe Bolshevik dictatorship instead of Hitler's National Socialism.

[re: NS culture policy]

>Excuse but this is completely contradictory to the "undeniable rigght to
>self-determination" you stated earlier.

Wrong.  They can do whatever they wish OUTSIDE our Nation -- and with their OWN
money.

>>       - replacement of Establishment-directed soul-destroying mindless "enter-
>>         tainment" and degenerate "art" with government-supported programs em-
>>         powering all to express themselves in spiritually-healthy music and 
>>         literature, graphic, plastic, and performing arts, and other culture-
>>         forms.

>The Government knows best hey? It's like our "big brother" trying to tell us
>what's good for us.

Sort of like your "democratic" government prohibiting free inquiry into the
subject of race, telling English schoolchildren what to think, whom to associ-
ate with...

>I hope to hell I'm not the only one on this group who's utterly opposed to
>groups like this. Surely pro-gunners and defenders of the RKBA don't want to be
>associated with this?

It is irrelevant what they want to be associated with.  Pro-Gun people come from
ALL walks of life, and you will find the entire political spectrum among them
-- including us.



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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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Rick Cook writes:

>OTOH, one of the reasons Hitler stayed out of Switzerland was because the
>Swiss _were_ so well-armed, with a system that kept the weapons instantly
>to hand. Cf the famous comment that Switzerland doesn't have an army,
>Switzerland is an army.

The fact that Switzerland is one of the most well-armed and equipped (relative
to its size) nations in the world (then and now) is irrelevant in addressing 
the question of why the Germans did not invade Switzerland.

Switzerland had litle strategic value during the war, and was useful -- to both
sides -- as a neutral party in a great conflict.  



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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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Subject: "The Order" on Turning Point rescheduled
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"The Order" on _Turning Point_, October 5th, 1995

The edition of ABC's _Turning Point_ regarding the Aryan revolutionary group
known as "the Order," was preempted September 28th by a special report on the
Simpson trial.  ABC has reportedly rescheduled the program for this coming
Thursday, October 5th.

-----

"The Enemy Interviews David Lane"

An intimate and candid conversation with political prisoner David Lane on video
cassette, interviewed by ABC News correspondent Merideth Vieira, for the program
_Turning Point_.  Approximately two and a half hours running time.

The first and only interview of its kind by a member of the Bruder Schweigen
since "the Order" was incarcerated over ten years ago.  Insightful and powerful
viewing for all who understand the evil that is the US Government. 

The full, unedited, unmanipulated version is available for $30 postpaid.

Exclusively from:

14 Word Press
HC01 Box 268K
St Maries ID  83861

-----

  We must secure the existence of our People and a future for White children.



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"The Order" on _Turning Point_, October 5th, 1995

The edition of ABC's _Turning Point_ regarding the Aryan revolutionary group
known as "the Order," was preempted September 28th by a special report on the
Simpson trial.  ABC has reportedly rescheduled the program for this coming
Thursday, October 5th.

-----

"The Enemy Interviews David Lane"

An intimate and candid conversation with political prisoner David Lane on video
cassette, interviewed by ABC News correspondent Merideth Vieira, for the program
_Turning Point_.  Approximately two and a half hours running time.

The first and only interview of its kind by a member of the Bruder Schweigen
since "the Order" was incarcerated over ten years ago.  Insightful and powerful
viewing for all who understand the evil that is the US Government. 

The full, unedited, unmanipulated version is available for $30 postpaid.

Exclusively from:

14 Word Press
HC01 Box 268K
St Maries ID  83861

-----

  We must secure the existence of our People and a future for White children.




From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Oct  2 07:49:43 PDT 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: EEK!  Nazis in my mailbox!
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Ken Whitehead (kdw@cle.ab.com) writes:

> I got some really weird racist stuff in my email this morning from
> some group called Crusader@national-alliance.org.  I have no idea
> why I received it.  It starts out:
 
> Anybody else get this?

Yeah, thousands of people all over the world got one, or two, or three. 
I've received one at each of my posting accounts.

This action was NOT sanctioned by the National Alliance.  All the Alliance
members I've talked about this with are opposed to such mailings.  I, for
one, am always opposed to anonymous mailings.  We have nothing to hide. 


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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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The following essay is distributed for educational/informational purposes only.
This poster does not necessarily endorse or advocate any proposal or idea
contained in the work below.

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   "Leaderless Resistance" -- Part One
   
   An Essay by L. R. Beam 
   
   The concept of leaderless resistance was proposed by Col. Ulius Louis
   Amoss, who was the founder of International Service of Information
   Incorporated, located in Baltimore, Maryland. Col. Amoss died more
   than 15 years ago, but during his life he was a tireless opponent of
   Communism, as well as a skilled intelligence officer.
   
   Col. Amoss first wrote of leaderless resistance on April 17, 1962. His
   theories of organization were primarily directed against the threat of
   eventual Communist takeover in the United States. The present writer,
   with the benefit of having lived many years beyond Col. Amoss, has
   taken his theories and expounded on them.
   
   Col. Amoss feared the Communists. This author fears the federal
   government. Communism now represents a threat to no one in the United
   States, while federal tyranny represents a threat to EVERYONE. The
   writer has joyfully lived long enough to see the dying breaths of
   Communism, but may unhappily remain long enough to see the last dying
   gasps of freedom in America.
   
   In the hope that, somehow, America can still produce the brave sons
   and daughters necessary to fight off ever-increasing persecution and
   oppression, this essay is offered. Frankly, it is too close to call at
   this point. Those who love liberty, and believe in freedom enough to
   fight for it, are rare today; but within the bosom of every once great
   nation, there remains secreted the pearls of former greatness.
   
   They are there. I have looked into their sparkling eyes; sharing a
   brief moment in time with them as I passed through this life. Relished
   their friendship, endured their pain, and they mine. We are a band of
   brothers native to the soil, gaining strength one from another as we
   have rushed headlong into battle that all the weaker, timid men say we
   can not win. Perhaps not... but then again, perhaps we can. It's not
   over till the last freedom fighter is buried or imprisoned, or the
   same happens to those who would destroy their liberty.
   
   Barring any cataclysmic events, the struggle will yet go on for years.
   The passage of time will make it clear to even the more slow among us
   that the government is the foremost threat to the life and liberty of
   the folk. The government will no doubt make today's oppressiveness
   look like grade school work compared to what they have planned in the
   future. Meanwhile, there are those of us who continue to hope that
   somehow the few can do what the many have not.
   
   We are cognizant that before things get better they will certainly get
   worse as government shows a willingness to use ever more severe police
   state measures against dissidents. This changing situation makes it
   clear that those who oppose state repression must be prepared to
   alter, adapt, and modify their behavior, strategy, and tactics as
   circumstances warrant. Failure to consider new methods and implement
   them as necessary will make the government's efforts at suppression
   uncomplicated. It is the duty of every patriot to make the tyrant's
   life miserable. When one fails to do so he not only fails himself, but
   his people.
   
   With this in mind, current methods of resistance to tyranny employed
   by those who love our race, culture, and heritage must pass a litmus
   test of soundness. Methods must be objectively measured as to their
   effectiveness, as well as to whether they make the government's
   intention of repression more possible or more difficult. Those not
   working to aid our objectives must be discarded, or the government
   benefits from our failure to do so.
   
   As honest men who have banded together into groups or associations of
   a political or religious nature are falsely labeled "domestic
   terrorists" or "cultists" and suppressed, it will become necessary to
   consider other methods of organization, or as the case may very well
   call for: non- organization.
   
   One should keep in mind that it is not in the government's interest to
   eliminate all groups. Some few must remain in order to perpetuate the
   smoke and mirrors for the masses that America is a "free democratic
   country" where dissent is allowed. Most organizations, however, that
   possess the potential for effective resistance will not be allowed to
   continue. Anyone who is so naive as to believe the most powerful
   government on earth will not crush any who pose a real threat to that
   power, should not be active, but rather at home studying political
   history.
   
   The question as to who is to be left alone and who is not, will be
   answered by how groups and individuals deal with several factors such
   as: avoidance of conspiracy plots, rejection of feebleminded
   malcontents, insistence upon quality of the participants, avoidance of
   all contact with the front men for the federals - the news media -
   and, finally, camouflage (which can be defined as the ability to blend
   in the public's eye the more committed groups of resistance with
   mainstream "kosher" associations that are generally seen as harmless).
   
   Primarily though, whether any organization is allowed to continue in
   the future will be a matter of how big a threat a group represents.
   Not a threat in terms of armed might or political ability, for there
   is none of either for the present, but rather, threat in terms of
   potentiality. It is potential the federals fear most. Whether that
   potential exists in an individual or group is incidental. The federals
   measure potential threat in terms of what might happen given a
   situation conducive to action on the part of a resistive organization
   or individual. Accurate intelligence gathering allows them to assess
   the potential. Showing one's hand before the bets are made is a sure
   way to lose.
   
   The movement for freedom is rapidly approaching the point where, for
   many people, the option of belonging to a group will be non-existent.
   For others, group membership will be a viable option for only the
   immediate future. Eventually, and perhaps much sooner than most
   believe possible, the price paid for membership will exceed any
   perceived benefit. But for now, some of the groups that do exist often
   serve a useful purpose either for the newcomer who can be
   indoctrinated into the ideology of the struggle, or for generating
   positive propaganda to reach potential freedom fighters. It is sure
   that, for the most part, this struggle is rapidly becoming a matter of
   individual action, each of its participants making a private decision
   in the quietness of his heart to resist: to resist by any means
   necessary.
   
   It is hard to know what others will do, for no man truly knows another
   man's heart. It is enough to know what one himself will do. A great
   teacher once said "know thyself." Few men really do, but let each of
   us promise ourselves not to go quietly to the fate our would-be
   masters have planned.
   
   The concept of leaderless resistance is nothing less than a
   fundamental departure in theories of organization. The orthodox scheme
   of organization is diagrammatically represented by the pyramid, with
   the mass at the bottom and the leader at the top. This fundamental of
   organization is to be seen not only in armies, which are, of course,
   the best illustration of the pyramid structure, with the mass of
   soldiery (the privates) at the bottom responsible to corporals; who
   are in turn responsible to sergeants, and so on up the entire chain of
   command to the generals at the top. But the same structure is seen in
   corporations, ladies' garden clubs, and in our political system
   itself. This orthodox "pyramid" scheme of organization is to be seen
   basically in all existing political, social, and religious structures
   in the world today, from the Federal government to the Roman Catholic
   Church.
   
   The Constitution of the United States, in the wisdom of the Founders,
   tried to sublimate the essential dictatorial nature pyramidal
   organization by dividing authority into three: executive, legislative,
   and judicial. But the pyramid remains essentially untouched.
   
   This scheme of organization, the pyramid, is not only useless, but
   extremely dangerous for the participants when it is utilized in a
   resistance movement against state tyranny. Especially is this so in
   technologically advanced societies where electronic surveillance can
   often penetrate the structure, thus revealing its chain of command.
   Experience has revealed over and over again that anti-state political
   organizations utilizing this method of command and control are easy
   prey for government infiltration, entrapment, and destruction of the
   personnel involved. This has been seen repeatedly in the United States
   where pro-government infiltrators or agent provocateurs weasel their
   way into patriotic groups and destroy them from within.
   
   In the pyramid form of organization, an infiltrator can destroy
   anything which is beneath his level of infiltration, and often those
   above him as well. If the traitor has infiltrated at the top, then the
   entire organization from the top down is compromised and may be
   traduced at will.
   


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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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Subject: "Leaderless Resistance" Part Two
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   "Leaderless Resistance" -- Part Two

   A recent example of the cell system taken from the left wing of
   politics are the Communists. The Communists, in order to get around
   the obvious problems involved in pyramidal organization, developed to
   an art the cell system. They had numerous independent cells which
   operated completely isolated from one another and particularly with no
   knowledge of each other, but were orchestrated together by a central
   headquarters. For instance, during WWII, in Washington, it is known
   that there were at least six secret Communist cells operating at high
   levels in the United States government (plus all the open Communists
   who were protected and promoted by President Roosevelt), however, only
   one of the cells was rooted out and destroyed. How many more actually
   were operating, no one can say for sure.
   
   The Communist cells which operated in the U.S. until late 1991 under
   Soviet control could have at their command a leader who held a social
   position which appeared to be very lowly. He could be, for example, a
   busboy in a restaurant, but in reality a colonel or a general in the
   Soviet Secret Service, the KGB. Under him could be a number of cells,
   and a person active in one cell would almost never have knowledge of
   individuals who were active in other cells; in fact, the members of
   the other cells would be supporting that cell which was under attack
   and ordinarily would lend very strong support to it in many ways. This
   is at least part of the reason, no doubt, that whenever in the past
   Communists were attacked in this country, support for them sprang up
   in many unexpected places.
   
   The effective and efficient operation of a cell system after the
   Communist model is, of course, dependent upon central direction, which
   means impressive organization, funding from the top, and outside
   support, all of which the Communists had. Obviously, American patriots
   have none of these things at the top or anywhere else, and so an
   effective cell organization based upon the Soviet system of operation
   is impossible.
   
   Two things become clear from the above discussion. First, that the
   pyramid form of organization can be penetrated quite easily and it
   thus is not a sound method of organization in situations where the
   government has the resources and desire to penetrate the structure,
   which is the situation in this country. Secondly, that the normal
   qualifications for the cell structure based upon the Red model does
   not exist in the U.S. for patriots. This understood, the question
   arises "What method is left for those resisting state tyranny?"
   
   The answer comes from Col. Amoss who proposed the "Phantom Cell" mode
   of organization which he described as Leaderless Resistance. A system
   of organization that is based upon the cell organization, but does not
   have any central control or direction, that is in fact almost
   identical to the methods used by the committees of correspondence
   during the American Revolution. Utilizing the Leaderless Resistance
   concept, all individuals and groups operate independently of each
   other, and never report to a central head- quarters or single leader
   for direction or instruction, as would those who belong to a typical
   pyramid organization.
   
   At first glance, such a form of organization seems unrealistic,
   primarily because there appears to be no organization. The natural
   question thus arises as to how are the "Phantom Cells" and individuals
   to cooperate with each other when there is no inter-communication or
   central direction?
   
   The answer to this question is that participants in a program of
   leaderless resistance through "Phantom Cell" or individual action must
   know exactly what they are doing and how to do it. It becomes the
   responsibility of the individual to acquire the necessary skills and
   information as to what is to be done. This is by no means as
   impractical as it appears, because it is certainly true that in any
   movement all persons involved have the same general outlook, are
   acquainted with the same philosophy, and generally react to given
   situations in similar ways. The previous history of the committees of
   correspondence during the American Revolution shows this to be true.
   
   Since the entire purpose of leaderless resistance is to defeat state
   tyranny (at least in so far as this essay is concerned), all members
   of phantom cells or individuals will tend to react to objective events
   in the same way through usual tactics of resistance. Organs of
   information distribution such as newspapers, leaflets, computers,
   etc., which are widely available to all, keep each person informed of
   events, allowing for a planned response that will take many
   variations. No one need issue an order to anyone. Those idealists
   truly committed to the cause of freedom will act when they feel the
   time is ripe, or will take their cue from others who precede them.
   While it is true that much could be said against this kind of
   structure as a method of resistance, it must be kept in mind that
   leaderless resistance is a child of necessity. The alternatives to it
   have been shown to be unworkable or impractical. Leaderless resistance
   has worked before in the American Revolution, and if the truly
   committed put it to use themselves, it will work now.
   
   It goes almost without saying that Leaderless Resistance leads to very
   small or even one-man cells of resistance. Those who join
   organizations to play "let's pretend" or who are "groupies" will
   quickly be weeded out. While for those who are serious about their
   opposition to federal despotism, this is exactly what is desired.
   
   From the point of view of tyrants and would-be potentates in the
   federal bureaucracy and police agencies, nothing is more desirable
   than that those who oppose them be UNIFIED in their command structure,
   and that EVERY person who opposes them belong to a pyramid style
   group. Such groups and organizations are easy to kill. Especially in
   light of the fact that the Justice (sic) Department promised in 1987
   that there would never be another group to oppose them that they did
   not have at least one informer in! These federal "friends of
   government" are ZOG or ADL intelligence agents. They gather
   information that can be used at the whim of a federal D.A. to
   prosecute. The line of battle has been drawn.
   
   Patriots are REQUIRED, therefore, to make a conscious decision to
   either aid the government in its illegal spying (by continuing with
   old methods of organization and resistance), or to make the enemy's
   job more difficult by implementing effective countermeasures.
   
   Now there will, no doubt, be mentally handicapped people out there who
   will state emphatically in their best red, white, and blue voice,
   while standing at a podium with an American flag draped in the
   background and a lone eagle soaring in the sky above, that, "So what
   if the government is spying? We are not violating any laws." Such
   crippled thinking by any serious person is the best example that there
   is a need for special education classes. The person making such a
   statement is totally out of contact with political reality in this
   country, and unfit for leadership of anything more than a dog sled in
   the Alaskan wilderness. The old "Born on the Fourth of July" mentality
   that has influenced so much of the Aryan-American Patriot's thinking
   in the past will not save him from the government in the future.
   "Reeducation" for non-thinkers of this kind will take place in the
   federal prison system where there are no flags or eagles, but an
   abundance of men who were "not violating any laws."
   
   Most groups who "unify" their disparate associates into a single
   structure have short political lives. Therefore, those movement
   leaders constantly calling for unity of organization, rather than the
   desirable Unity of Purpose, usually fall into one of three categories:
    1. They may not be sound political tacticians, but rather, just
       committed men who feel unity would help their cause, while not
       realizing that the government would greatly benefit from such
       efforts. The Federal objective, to imprison or destroy all who
       oppose them, is made easier in pyramid organizations.
       
    2. Or, perhaps, they do not fully understand the struggle they are
       involved in, and that the government they oppose has declared a
       state of war against those fighting for faith, folk, freedom,
       property and constitutional liberty. Those in power will use any
       means to rid themselves of opposition.
       
    3. The third class calling for unity, and let us hope this is the
       minority of the three, are men more desirous of the supposed power
       that a large organization would bestow, than of actually achieving
       their stated purpose.
       
   Conversely, the LAST thing federal snoops want, if they had any choice
   in the matter, is a thousand different small phantom cells opposing
   them. It is easy to see why. Such a situation is an intelligence
   nightmare for a government intent upon knowing everything they
   possibly can about those who oppose them. The Federals, able to amass
   overwhelming strength of numbers, manpower, resources, intelligence
   gathering, and capability at any given time, need only a focal point
   to direct their anger [ie Waco]. A single penetration of a pyramid
   style organization can lead to the destruction of the whole. Whereas,
   leaderless resistance presents no single opportunity for the Federals
   to destroy a significant portion of the resistance.
   
   With the announcement of the Department of Justice (sic) that 300 FBI
   agents formerly assigned to watching Soviet spies in the U.S.
   (domestic counter-intelligence) are now to be used to "combat crime,"
   the federal government is preparing the way for a major assault upon
   those persons opposed to their policies. Many anti-government groups
   dedicated to the preservation of the America of our Forefathers can
   expect shortly to feel thebrunt of a new federal assault upon liberty.
   
   It is clear, therefore, that it is time to rethink traditional
   strategy and tactics when it comes to opposing state tyranny, where
   the rights now accepted by most as being inalienable will disappear.
   Let the coming night be filled with a thousand points of resistance.
   Like the fog which forms when conditions are right, and disappears
   when they are not, so must the resistance to tyranny be.
   


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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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Subject: "Revolutionary Majorities" Part One
Date: 2 Oct 1995 02:30:37 GMT
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The following essay is distributed for educational/informational purposes only.
This posted does not necessarily endorse or advocate any proposal or idea
contained in the work below.

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   "Revolutionary Majorities" -- Part One
   
   An Essay by L. R. Beam 
   
   If citizens of this country ever again enjoy the blessings of liberty
   and true freedom, it will not be the result of a majority of its
   citizens having risen up in righteous indignation at govenmental abuse
   of themselves and their culture. If a restoration of the Constitution
   of our forebearers occurs - with all that this implies - it will
   probably not be because a plurality of citizens fought for it,
   supported it, or cared one way or another. If lawful government is
   reestablished it will come about because a revolutionary majority
   makes it happen.
   
   Within the American historical experience a revolutionary majority may
   be defined as any number of citizens sufficient to initiate general
   hostilities against a destructive government.
   
   The American Revolution of 1776 defines the term, sets the precedent
   and provides the example for patriots of today.
   
   Throughout most of the Revolutionary War, those patriots who were
   seeking to overthrow the government lacked support of over two-thirds
   of their fellow citizens. John Adams, one of the "radicals" in favor
   of the Revolution and who was later to become the second President of
   the United States, stated that depending on how the war was going,
   those fighting for freedom had the opposition of from a third to two
   thirds of the people. Others like Pennsylvania delegate to the
   Continental Congress Joseph Galloway was sure that four-fifths of the
   people "were or wanted to be, loyal to the King." (Galloway eventually
   sided with the Loyalists, as those who supported the King's government
   were called.) Colonel London Carter, a member of the Virginia
   aristocracy and a strong patriot, stated in his diary in March of 1776
   (but a bare three months before the signing of the Declaration of
   Independence) that an observer of events in the Northern colonies was
   sure "nine-tenths of the people are violently against it"
   (independence).
   
   The exact number of "the friends of government", as the patriots
   disparingly refered to those who opposed the Revolution, cannot be
   stated with accuracy. As John Adams indicated, the number was in a
   constant state of flux, depending on political events and who was
   winning in the armed conflict. One thing is certain, however; the
   American Revolution was anything but a broad-based popular uprising of
   a disaffected people. Rather, it was a very unpopular rebellion of a
   politically radical minority who, because they posessed a clear
   understanding of the rights of man coupled with a deep concern for the
   state of relative personal freedom, were able to perceive the shackles
   of tyranny prior to their being presented for fastening. This
   discernment of tyranny at a distance not only set them apart from
   their fellow man but constrained them to rebel.
   
   The radical political leaders of the Revolution such as John Adams,
   Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson,
   George Washington, Richard Henry Lee, John Hancock, and Joseph Warren,
   to name but a few of the more well known, had to conduct their
   struggle for freedom in the face of disapprobation and rejection by
   their peers before the time of actual armed conflict, and after its
   commencement to charges and cries of "incendiaries and traitors."
   Indeed "the friends of government" knew little restraint when it came
   to condemning the Republic's Founders. The Loyalists called
   Washington, among other things; a liar, perjurer, murderer,
   blasphemer, criminal, traitor, patron of villainy, and a villain's
   chief. The other Founders faired little better and were variously
   refered to as being dregs, illiberal (sic!) and violent men,
   dispicable wretches, bandits, rude, and depraved. While thus labeled
   by "respectable citizens," these men led the country toward rebellion.
   
   Correspondingly, the Founders had an analogous movement among the
   common people which, although the objective of overthrowing the
   government was the same, the methods were those resorted to by people
   in every age when faced with overpowering force of all-powerful
   government, namely, mob action, riots, uprisings, midnight forays, and
   harassment, intimidation, or terroristic acts directed against
   governmental supporters. All of these and other acts came under the
   single heading of patriotism so far as their perpetrators were
   concerned.
   
   After a review of non-battlefield hostilities, it becomes apparent
   that the American Revolution was won more by mob action than by armed
   conflict! Thus, any idea that the Revolution was won in an ordeal of
   battle is out of place in view of the facts.
   
   During the entire length of the armed conflict from 1775 to 1781, the
   King's armies lost only 1,512 men killed in battle; this seven-year,
   battle-death casuality rate was exceeded by Union forces at Cold
   Harbor in 1864 during the first eight minutes of a single engagement.
   The King's armies had previously lost far larger numbers of men in the
   Seven Years War (French and Indian Wars) yet pressed on to victory. An
   adequate explanation then of the patriots' final triumph over the
   government must be provided by other than a military victory.
   
   An answer, in great part, lies in the violence and vigilante action
   carried on by the patriots against the government and its supporters!
   Though most Americans today are familiar with the Boston Tea Party,
   few know much about the secret organization that conducted it, the
   Sons of Liberty. Led by Samuel Adams, John Hancock, Dr. Warren ("the
   greatest incendiary of them all"), and Paul Revere, they met in
   secret, dressed in disguises, and carried out vigilante actions under
   the cover of darkness. This revolutionary Ku Klux Klan was as much
   dreaded by "the friends of government" as its ideological offspring,
   the Klan, ever was by unruly Blacks. The Sons of Liberty and other
   similar groups were responsible, during the course of the conflict for
   independence, for causing tens of thousands of Loyalist to flee the
   country (the Klan was usually satisfied with merely running
   undesirables out of the county).
   
   The means were simple and effective. Terror and intimidation were
   directed against the Loyalists. Methods used to create these twin
   scourges of "the friends of government" included, but were not limited
   to, whippings, coats of tar and feathers, banishment, church burnings
   (if run by a Loyalist preacher or used for a Loyalist meeting place),
   confiscation of property, and whereever deemed necessary - death of
   any one of several reliable methods.
   
   Other patriotic groups of a sy formed throughout the thirteen colonies
   to carry on a relentless persecution of "the friends of government."
   Each organization operated independently of the other though often
   exchanged information on Loyalists.
   
   Often these ad hoc associations went by the name of "Committees of
   Public Safety," though the name as well as the tactics employed varied
   from place to place. Thus in the colony of New York, the patriots
   bluntly called themselves "the oppressors of the friends of
   government" and stated proudly that they tarred and feathered
   governmental supporters with the "decorum that ought to be preserved
   in public punishments." Boston had its mysterious "Joyce Junior" who
   led a group of Knight Riders and enforcers who saw to it that those
   who did not display the necessary revolutionary mentality were
   properly punished. The rebel Continental Congress established
   "associations," whose purpose was to locate the Loyalists and turn
   their names over to the local vigilante to be dealt within the manner
   they deemed proper. In every colony, if the accusation was one of
   giving information to government agents, the traitor to liberty was
   hanged by the neck or dealt with in some other terminally appropriate
   manner.
   
   Even religious leaders were not exempt from the patriotic purges that
   cleansed away supporters of the king. Preachers who failed to support
   the cause of liberty (or who had forgotten that David slew Goliath
   rather than turning the other cheek) were run out of town on a rail in
   the glowing light of the flames from their quickly disappearing
   church. This was considered leniency, others were forced to flee to
   England or Canada in fear of their lives.
   
   By the end of the conflict in 1781, for every government Red-Coat
   killed on the battlefield, seventy Loyalists had been driven from
   their homes and forced to settle in England or Canada, totaling over
   one hundred thousand people.
   
   The government and its "friends" accused the revolutionary freedom
   fighters (whom they often called "the Sons of Anarchy") of "committing
   the most shocking outrages" and of "daily invasions upon private
   property" while led by men who were "well known incendiaries and
   traitors," whose chief purpose in life was to commit "crimes against
   the Constitutional authority of the State" (historically, government's
   which have oppressed and abused their citizens justify their actions
   based on the "law" or "Constitutional authority").
   
   No doubt, had the effort to overthrow the government been
   unsuccessful, the Founding Fathers and their citizen supporters would
   have been hanged by "the friends of government," as the very worst
   sort of traitors and terrorists.
   
   In summary of the American Revolution, while Washington's determined
   and skillful leadership of the army, no doubt made victory possible,
   it did not assure it. The Spirit of '76 - a massive campaign of terror
   directed by patriotic citizens against all those who supported the
   goverment was the deciding factor that brought freedom to America.
   
   American Constitutional liberty was born in mob pressure, fostered by
   secret societies, nurtured during seven years of intimidating
   violence, and institutionalized at the expense of well over a hundred
   thousand people. With this American history in mind, one who is
   faithful to the ideas of the Founding Fathers of this nation can have
   nothing but contempt and suspicion of the motives (or ignorance) of
   those people both within and without the government who would condemn
   citizens of today "for taking the law into their own hands" in defense
   of their rights.
   
   Had those who desired liberty in 1776 waited until a numerical
   majority of their fellow citizens were ready to "wake-up" (as the
   saying is today) to fight for the overthrow of the government, or had
   they hesitated in the use of "illegal" force and violence (force and
   violence are never legal except when used by those in power) against
   their governmintal enemies, they would have all died in their old age
   as law-abiding subjects of the King - minus their freedom.
   
   Patriots of 1775 considered the sympathies of less than a third of the
   people sufficient to begin general hostilities against their
   oppressors. Herein lies the historical context of the American
   revolutionary majority. It has been wisely said that those who do not
   know and understand history can repeat its successes.
   
   In America today, the manacles of slavery and destruction once forged
   in London by the King are now forged in Washington. Acts of tyranny
   are carried out in the name of the federal government rather than in
   the name of the Throne. The vicious enforcers of dictatorial policies
   often call themselves F.B.I. or I.R.S. agents instead of his Royal
   Majesty's troops or tax collectors of the Realm. Substituting for the
   Redcoats of the British are the "bluecoats" of the bureaucrats and in
   far greater numbers. Though babblings for "the divine rights" of kings
   to rule have ceased, modern fools prattle of "democratic majorities"
   composed of an illiterate electorate enfranchised for the purpose of
   dispossessing the descendents of the Founders. While different in
   nomenclature the end results are exactly the same - the dark, cold,
   tight chains of slavery.
   
   A numerical majority of today's citizens cannot read these footprints
   of tyranny nor understand where they lead. In this they are no
   different than their counterparts of 200 years ago. Modern governments
   have mass communications to subtly guide the thinking of their
   subjects; thus is seen the phenomenon of today's citizen rushing forth
   to place the cuffs of bondage upon his own wrist by irrationally
   clamoring (as he has been indoctrinated) for more laws and government
   to solve problems created by an excess of both. This mental inversion,
   whereby the citizen willfully aids in efforts to subjugate himself, is
   of no small import for those who treasure their liberty. The
   implications are many, but the consequences could be singular: a
   governmentally programed democratic majority may, as they dance along
   to mental tunes played by an electronic band of orchestrated
   communication, gleefully drag down (with their self-fastened chains)
   everyone else in the black hole of oblivion.
   
   Only one thing seems capable of closing the yawning mouth of the pit
   and that is the formation of a new revolutionary majority coupled with
   resurrection of the Spirit of '76. Anything short of this seems
   certain to pass on to today's children an increasingly difficult task
   of freeing themselves from transistorized chains of governmental
   control. Such a legacy is the bequeathal of cowards, not free men.
   
   The first American Revolutionists accused those who ruled them of
   excessive taxation, interference with property rights, illegal search
   and seizure, not protecting the citizens from incursions by several
   thousand Indians, policies destructive of the general welfare, and
   "altering fundamentally the form of our government," among other
   things.
   
   Today the federal government taxes its subjects for forty percent of
   their income, instead of the three percent (less than a dollar twenty
   a year) tax of the King; interferes with the ownership and use of
   virtually every description of property; authorizes everything from
   game wardens to I.R.S. agents to search, arrest, or seize property
   without a warrant. It allows fifteen million aliens to illegally cross
   its borders in less than a ten-year period; and conducts a policy of
   systematic extermination of its young men through no-win wars, and
   subjects the Founders' children to enforced equality. Each of the
   acts, individually amounts to altering fundamentally the form and
   purpose for which the federal government was created. Taken as a
   whole, they are a cry for - nay - a demand for, a new campaign of
   terror conducted against the government and its friends in the great
   American tradition of 1776.
   


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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
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Subject: "Revolutionary Majorities" Part Two
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   "Revolutionary Majorities" -- Part Two

   An examination of the depth and magnitude of policies fostered by
   federal rulers detrimental to the people of present day America make
   the abuses of the English King's government pale into insignificance.
   One thing is clear; comparison of the criminal acts of the two
   governments makes those who value their liberty and freedom long for
   the bitter days of English despotism.
   
   While there are many similarities between the first American
   Revolution and the second (coming soon at a place near you), there are
   also significant differences.
   
   The first and paramount dissimilarity is that while our heroic
   Forefathers fought to overthrow their legally constituted government
   and were thus revolutionaries in the truest sense of the word, those
   who seek to break the quickly tightening bands of servitude today war
   against an illegal government that imposes itself upon the people
   under the color of the law. By the Washington regime's disobedience to
   and violation of the bonds of the Constitution, established by the
   Founders of this country, it has made of itself an unlawful body with
   no more right to govern the American people than has the present Queen
   of England. That the government survives despite the crimes it has
   committed is explainable only because the atrocities it systematically
   imposes are papered over with a veneer of legality. Propaganda that
   numbs the mind keeps people from rising against those who abuse them.
   
   There is no law in this country - other than power, which currently
   rests with the Pirates of the Potomac, who pose as our lawful
   government while using over powering force to quell those who resist
   their destructive policies. The Constitutional Revolutionist of today
   is actually fighting for a transfer of power from those who can make
   no legitimate claim to power, to those who inherently hold it as a
   natural right - the lawful citizens of this country.
   
   Another salient difference between the first American Revolution and
   the second is the contrast between the quality of the people of then
   and now. Our ancestors were strong men, who stated often that they
   were resolved "to die as free men rather than live as slaves." They
   were conditioned to doing their own thinking while at the same time
   ever holding before themselves the guiding lights of honor and duty.
   
   Today, raised in the lap of luxury, many people gladly exchange their
   freedom for the right to accumulate material possessions. Not one
   person in fifty can truthfully state that his opinions are the result
   of independent research rather than the mindless acquisition of
   pre-programmed "opinions" obtained by indulging in endless hours of
   obeisant T.V. watching (that modern day golden calf of those lost in
   the mental wilderness). Further, most Americans do not know the
   meanings nor values of honor and duty, the two great concepts of
   higher man.
   
   It is quite clear that the virtue of the present generation has
   declined to such a miserable degree that most people will never
   voluntarily help to make themselves free. Consequently they will have
   to be made to make themselves free.
   
   A great objective of revolutionary majorities is that of thrusting
   freedom upon those who are too weak to make themselves free while
   providing its blessings for the stronger, more noble elements of the
   race. This is done in the firm belief that under sound government,
   future generations will be naturally healthy in mind and spirit. The
   revolutionary patriot benignantly grants freedon to others while
   establishing framework that will allow posterity to be both free and
   strong. Other than the "great commission" of the Lord, no calling is
   as exalted or as honorable. These two significant differences - one of
   law, one of character - between the first struggle for freedom and the
   present one is deserving of substantial thought and analysis by those
   capable of so doing. Consider what type of self-preserving behavior
   can be expected from a government that already wades to its knees in
   the blood of young men deliberately sacrificed to the false god of
   Internationalism. Were the government really intent on opposing
   Communism, it would start a war in Washington and work its way to
   Vietnam. What behaviour can be expected from a people who willingly
   pass their sons through the fire to be consumed? Each of these
   concepts deserve most careful examination.
   
   Opposing the federal purveyors of mass murder and the "the friends of
   government" who make such perfidy possible are men who trace their
   political lineage to times of Magna Carta, and who are mental as well
   as physical descendents of the Founding Fathers. They believe, as did
   their forebearers, that government is a social contract entered into
   by people of a similar mind for their mutual benefit. This agency
   created by the people can only, legitimately, be their servant - never
   their master. Further, it cannot possess lawful authority to deprive
   those who create it (or their heirs) of natural rights. In normal
   times men who arrayed themselves against the criminal acts of
   government would be called Constitutionalists, but "these are the
   times that try mens souls" as well as test their courage. Thus
   contemporary patriots become known as Constitutional Revolutionists
   determined to overthrow every vestige of unlawful government doing so
   with a firm belief that honor demands and duty requires the
   reestablishment of the law of their fathers.
   
   It can be realized then, that those who remain guilty of loyalty to
   the present illegal government in the District of Columbia are
   chargeable with treason to the Constitution of the United States and
   deserving the same fate of their historical predecessors who, in the
   name of the King, trampled upon sacred rights of Englishmen in 1776.
   
   It should be stated in their defense, however, that most of those who
   are participants in this odious transgression against the good of our
   noble forebearers do so in complete ignorance of the law. Having
   obtained ninety-five percent of their misinformation from government
   licensed T.V. and the remaining five percent from conversations with
   others who are also completely maladroit at obtaining facts on their
   own, they are victims of methodical thought control which began during
   their childhood and has been continued at a subliminal level
   throughout their lives.
   
   Though no doubt the maxim "ignorance of the law is no excuse for its
   violation" makes these people criminals, the mitigating circumstances
   of their lawlessness should be considered by those who are seeking to
   reestablish lawful rule in this country.
   
   A period of grace, commensurable with what the struggle will allow, is
   in order, thus providing the present supporters of unlawful government
   an opportunity to defect as they became cognizant of the law.
   
   By this fraternal act to the erring members of our race we serve not
   only the interest of justice but, at whatever point in time the grace
   period is of necessity terminiated, all excuse for collaboration with
   the enemy will have been removed. Having held long aloft the olive
   branch of peace and forgiveness, no just complaint can be made by
   those who failed to avail themselves of it, when with the other hand,
   the terrible swift sword of vindication falls upon their necks.
   
   Even after the patriots of today have invoked "the Sprit of '76," and
   have successfully dammed the Mississippi with rotting corpses of the
   lying politicians, criminal bureaucrats, racial tratiors, communists,
   assorted degenerates, cultural distorters, and those who resist the
   implementation of lawful Constitutional government, these patriots
   will have exhibited far more restraint and benevolence than the
   present government of the United States. For while Constitutionalists
   of today war against those guilty of the most heinous crimes upon our
   people, usurpers in Washington destroy in mind and wherever possible
   the bodies of those guilty of nothing more than having white skin.
   
   Coalescing within America today is a second revolutionary majority
   whose members in the spirit of their forebearers are resolved to die
   as free men rather than to live as slaves. Like their noble ancestors,
   today's revolutionary majority must fight for the children of carping
   critics just as fiercely as for their own families. Emulating its
   predecessor, obedience is given only to the dictates of the code of
   natural law. For once again the enemies of liberty use the law of the
   nation as their shield - yea - even their justification for destroying
   freedom of the people. A government exceeding the power granted by
   their fathers - they are not bound to obey but bound to resist.
   
   John Adams said, that "freedon is a counter balance for poverty,
   discord, and war," and that if the revolutionary struggle failed, it
   would be because moderates tried to find a "middle ground" and to
   conduct "half a war," for freedom. Likewise, today's tired voices are
   heard calling for politics as usual - moderation as always. Such
   thinking has allowed generations to die in chains in former times and
   will so again if adhered to.
   
   The age of the conservative like that of the dinosaur, has ended. Now
   begins a new age, destiny calls for her great men who by their iron
   will alter the pages of history from that of a tale of shame,
   cowardice, and decline, to a saga of glory, bravery, and rebirth.
   Soon, very soon, we will have a revolutionary majority...
   


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The following essay is distributed for educational/informational purposes only.
This poster does not necessarily endorse or advocate any proposal or idea
contained in the work below.

-----
     
   "Leaderless Resistance" -- Part One
   
   An Essay by L. R. Beam 
   
   The concept of leaderless resistance was proposed by Col. Ulius Louis
   Amoss, who was the founder of International Service of Information
   Incorporated, located in Baltimore, Maryland. Col. Amoss died more
   than 15 years ago, but during his life he was a tireless opponent of
   Communism, as well as a skilled intelligence officer.
   
   Col. Amoss first wrote of leaderless resistance on April 17, 1962. His
   theories of organization were primarily directed against the threat of
   eventual Communist takeover in the United States. The present writer,
   with the benefit of having lived many years beyond Col. Amoss, has
   taken his theories and expounded on them.
   
   Col. Amoss feared the Communists. This author fears the federal
   government. Communism now represents a threat to no one in the United
   States, while federal tyranny represents a threat to EVERYONE. The
   writer has joyfully lived long enough to see the dying breaths of
   Communism, but may unhappily remain long enough to see the last dying
   gasps of freedom in America.
   
   In the hope that, somehow, America can still produce the brave sons
   and daughters necessary to fight off ever-increasing persecution and
   oppression, this essay is offered. Frankly, it is too close to call at
   this point. Those who love liberty, and believe in freedom enough to
   fight for it, are rare today; but within the bosom of every once great
   nation, there remains secreted the pearls of former greatness.
   
   They are there. I have looked into their sparkling eyes; sharing a
   brief moment in time with them as I passed through this life. Relished
   their friendship, endured their pain, and they mine. We are a band of
   brothers native to the soil, gaining strength one from another as we
   have rushed headlong into battle that all the weaker, timid men say we
   can not win. Perhaps not... but then again, perhaps we can. It's not
   over till the last freedom fighter is buried or imprisoned, or the
   same happens to those who would destroy their liberty.
   
   Barring any cataclysmic events, the struggle will yet go on for years.
   The passage of time will make it clear to even the more slow among us
   that the government is the foremost threat to the life and liberty of
   the folk. The government will no doubt make today's oppressiveness
   look like grade school work compared to what they have planned in the
   future. Meanwhile, there are those of us who continue to hope that
   somehow the few can do what the many have not.
   
   We are cognizant that before things get better they will certainly get
   worse as government shows a willingness to use ever more severe police
   state measures against dissidents. This changing situation makes it
   clear that those who oppose state repression must be prepared to
   alter, adapt, and modify their behavior, strategy, and tactics as
   circumstances warrant. Failure to consider new methods and implement
   them as necessary will make the government's efforts at suppression
   uncomplicated. It is the duty of every patriot to make the tyrant's
   life miserable. When one fails to do so he not only fails himself, but
   his people.
   
   With this in mind, current methods of resistance to tyranny employed
   by those who love our race, culture, and heritage must pass a litmus
   test of soundness. Methods must be objectively measured as to their
   effectiveness, as well as to whether they make the government's
   intention of repression more possible or more difficult. Those not
   working to aid our objectives must be discarded, or the government
   benefits from our failure to do so.
   
   As honest men who have banded together into groups or associations of
   a political or religious nature are falsely labeled "domestic
   terrorists" or "cultists" and suppressed, it will become necessary to
   consider other methods of organization, or as the case may very well
   call for: non- organization.
   
   One should keep in mind that it is not in the government's interest to
   eliminate all groups. Some few must remain in order to perpetuate the
   smoke and mirrors for the masses that America is a "free democratic
   country" where dissent is allowed. Most organizations, however, that
   possess the potential for effective resistance will not be allowed to
   continue. Anyone who is so naive as to believe the most powerful
   government on earth will not crush any who pose a real threat to that
   power, should not be active, but rather at home studying political
   history.
   
   The question as to who is to be left alone and who is not, will be
   answered by how groups and individuals deal with several factors such
   as: avoidance of conspiracy plots, rejection of feebleminded
   malcontents, insistence upon quality of the participants, avoidance of
   all contact with the front men for the federals - the news media -
   and, finally, camouflage (which can be defined as the ability to blend
   in the public's eye the more committed groups of resistance with
   mainstream "kosher" associations that are generally seen as harmless).
   
   Primarily though, whether any organization is allowed to continue in
   the future will be a matter of how big a threat a group represents.
   Not a threat in terms of armed might or political ability, for there
   is none of either for the present, but rather, threat in terms of
   potentiality. It is potential the federals fear most. Whether that
   potential exists in an individual or group is incidental. The federals
   measure potential threat in terms of what might happen given a
   situation conducive to action on the part of a resistive organization
   or individual. Accurate intelligence gathering allows them to assess
   the potential. Showing one's hand before the bets are made is a sure
   way to lose.
   
   The movement for freedom is rapidly approaching the point where, for
   many people, the option of belonging to a group will be non-existent.
   For others, group membership will be a viable option for only the
   immediate future. Eventually, and perhaps much sooner than most
   believe possible, the price paid for membership will exceed any
   perceived benefit. But for now, some of the groups that do exist often
   serve a useful purpose either for the newcomer who can be
   indoctrinated into the ideology of the struggle, or for generating
   positive propaganda to reach potential freedom fighters. It is sure
   that, for the most part, this struggle is rapidly becoming a matter of
   individual action, each of its participants making a private decision
   in the quietness of his heart to resist: to resist by any means
   necessary.
   
   It is hard to know what others will do, for no man truly knows another
   man's heart. It is enough to know what one himself will do. A great
   teacher once said "know thyself." Few men really do, but let each of
   us promise ourselves not to go quietly to the fate our would-be
   masters have planned.
   
   The concept of leaderless resistance is nothing less than a
   fundamental departure in theories of organization. The orthodox scheme
   of organization is diagrammatically represented by the pyramid, with
   the mass at the bottom and the leader at the top. This fundamental of
   organization is to be seen not only in armies, which are, of course,
   the best illustration of the pyramid structure, with the mass of
   soldiery (the privates) at the bottom responsible to corporals; who
   are in turn responsible to sergeants, and so on up the entire chain of
   command to the generals at the top. But the same structure is seen in
   corporations, ladies' garden clubs, and in our political system
   itself. This orthodox "pyramid" scheme of organization is to be seen
   basically in all existing political, social, and religious structures
   in the world today, from the Federal government to the Roman Catholic
   Church.
   
   The Constitution of the United States, in the wisdom of the Founders,
   tried to sublimate the essential dictatorial nature pyramidal
   organization by dividing authority into three: executive, legislative,
   and judicial. But the pyramid remains essentially untouched.
   
   This scheme of organization, the pyramid, is not only useless, but
   extremely dangerous for the participants when it is utilized in a
   resistance movement against state tyranny. Especially is this so in
   technologically advanced societies where electronic surveillance can
   often penetrate the structure, thus revealing its chain of command.
   Experience has revealed over and over again that anti-state political
   organizations utilizing this method of command and control are easy
   prey for government infiltration, entrapment, and destruction of the
   personnel involved. This has been seen repeatedly in the United States
   where pro-government infiltrators or agent provocateurs weasel their
   way into patriotic groups and destroy them from within.
   
   In the pyramid form of organization, an infiltrator can destroy
   anything which is beneath his level of infiltration, and often those
   above him as well. If the traitor has infiltrated at the top, then the
   entire organization from the top down is compromised and may be
   traduced at will.
   



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Oct  3 09:32:01 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: Milton Kleim's "On Tactics and Strategy for USENET
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Edward Borasky (znmeb@teleport.com) writes:

>Let me, as one of our Presidents once said, make one thing perfectly
>clear.  I and many others object not only to receiving unsolicited
>e-mail, but to racist propaganda in *any* form, whether it be radio or
>television broadcasts, books such as "The Bell Curve", Johnny Cochrane
>comparing Mark Fuhrman to Hitler, postings to Usenet news groups, FTP
>sites, Web pages, printed leaflets or even tattoos.  There is no freedom
>to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, and your freedom to swing your
>fist stops several inches away from my face.

My freedom to speak my mind, and speak the truth regardless of whatever
Bolshevik does not like it, is guaranteed for as long as the there is a USA
by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

If you don't like my writings or my views...

THEN DON'T READ THEM.

>The majority of participants in the Internet *repudiate* racism in all
>these forms, speak out *publicly* against it and, given the authority to
>delete such materials from their sites would *gladly* do so. 

The majority is not always right; in fact, the majority is usually wrong.

No one has the authority to CENSOR -- yes, CENSOR -- my views.  Isn't that
too bad for a power-mad fanatic like yourself?

>I ask you, Mr. Kleim, to join us in repudiating racism.

I ask you to repudiate the genocidal campaign against the White, or
Aryan, race, and to repudiate the organizations and institutions
implementing that genocide.

-----

  We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.




From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Oct  3 14:04:26 PDT 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Update on the "Crusader" spam/mass mailing
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I have spoken with the National Office of the National Alliance, and they
said they are "investigating the matter."

My comrades on the Net are investigating this matter as well.  As I have
said, I do not approve of such distribution techniques.  We have nothing
to hide, and do not need to send out anonymous mailings or postings of any
kind.  Further, forging headers reflects badly on the National Alliance,
and could and should be classed as an expulsion offense.

Some of you will not believe me sincere in my efforts to identify, and
sanction, the offender, but that is another issue.  If I find out who this
"Crusader" dude is, or where he is, I shall post the information.

Further, I am certain beyond doubt that Robert Miller (Trebor Lee), the
owner of our FTP site at Netcom, is NOT "Crusader."  Mainly, for the
simple reason, he and I cooperate on various matters, and he is well aware
of my Alliance membership.  I have received three "Crusader" messages to
three of my accounts (HERMANN, bb748, ag264).  No Alliance member who had
authorization from the National Office would bother hitting me with
Alliance material.

It may also interest you to know (the censorship-minded among the readers of
this group will rejoice) that the NA Website, http://www.natvan.com, is
off-line for an unknown reason.  We believe someone is "retaliating" for
the "Crusader" actions.

If anyone has questions about this matter, please feel free to contact me
as a representative for the National Alliance.


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Milton,

What was done with the "natvan.com" domain is really none of you business.
But, I will attempt to enlighten you you anyway.

Point 1:

The National Vanguard Books web page was not involuntarily removed from our
system. We discussed this with Jack Harding, the person that setup the
account with us, and it was a mutually agreed to decision to take the
domain name and web page down. The decision has not been made as to how
long this status will be maintained.

Point 2:

The decision to take the down the domain name and web page had nothing to
do with the content. The mail generated by the Crusader spam caused our
systems great difficulties. With the interests of other clients in mind,
we decided that we need to at least temporarily take the down the
natvan domain name and web page. This decision had absolutely nothing to
do with the content of the web page. Although NetGate does not agree with
what web page has to say, we do strongly believe in their right to say it.

Point 3:

If this company proves to be responsible for this spam, we will not
hesitate to cancel all their accounts with us. We do not allow our
customers to abuse the Internet in this way.

Scott Winders
winders@netgate.net




From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Oct  6 12:59:14 PDT 1995
Article: 278584 of talk.politics.misc
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: It began long before O.J. Simpson...
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"The Race War of Black Against White"

By Paul Sheehan

_Sydney Morning Herald_, May 20, 1995


   The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not 
over.  It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims.
It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War.  It determined the result
of last year's congressional election.

   Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which 
remains between the lines and unreported.  In fact, to even suggest that the  
war exists is to be discredited.  So let's start suggesting, immediately.

   No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or
dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the
official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black
America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.

   And the problem is getting worse, not better.  In the past 20 years, violent
crime has increased more than four times faster than the population.  Young
blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times
more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

   Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been
reported in America:

*  According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims,
   more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) 
   are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 mil-
   lion, are inter-racial crimes.

*  Most victims of race crime -- about 90 per cent -- are white, according to
   the survey "Highlights From 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published
   in 1993.

*  Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped 
   by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were mur-
   dered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

*  Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites
   even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white
   population.  When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they re-
   veal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times 
   the violent racial crimes of whites.

*  According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of In-
   vestigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white
   victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites mur-
   der blacks.

   These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there 
was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not co-
incidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil 
rights movement.

   Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering.  Justice Department
and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million
violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black
offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-
racial murders.  By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 
were killed in the Korean War.

   When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft)
are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious.  The Bureau of Justice
Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992,
and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders
and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

   When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans
have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past
30 years.  It is the great defining disaster of American life and American
ideals since World War II.

   All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the
facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media.  It
prefers to maintain a paternalistic double standard in its coverage of black
America, a lower standard.

-----

Don't get mad, get organized!  Contact America's leading organization that
stands up for White Americans:

The National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro WV  24946

Hotline: (304) 653-4600

Check out these URLs, too:

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http:www.io.com/~rlogsdon/


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Oct  6 19:37:00 PDT 1995
Article: 210727 of talk.politics.guns
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: The Verdict: the consequences
Message-ID: 
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Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, shortly after the surprise attack at Pearl
Harbor, observed that the Japanese had, blinded by arrogance, "awakened a
sleeping giant."

On October 3rd, 1995, a predominately colored jury returned an incredible
verdict, an unjust verdict mocking the gruesome deaths of two people.  Blinded
by arrogance, the jury, deliberately ignoring the Mount Everest of damning 
evidence, found O.J. Simpson not guilty of two indescribably vicious 
slaughters of his ex-wife and her friend.

The home boys and home girls wanted to "get one up on honky."

What they have done is awakened a sleeping giant.

Scummy shyster Johnnie Cochran urged the jury to send a message that White
"racism" would no longer be tolerated.  The jury listened, and White America
has heard the laughs and cheers that racism against Whites is condoned and
approved of by a majority of Black Americans.  Whites, some of whom their
entire lives have sympathized with and helped Blacks in their struggles, have
been hit with hard reality that their sincere desire for a "color-blind"
society is NOT reflected in the Black community.  They have been duped, duped
long and hard, and, they're -- understandably -- MAD.

What a billion dollars of neo-Nazi propaganda could never do, a relatively
simple arrogant, pompous act by a race-conscious jury has done in an instant.
The jury's action will not bring a reduction of racism -- it has polarized
America racially as not even the colored Los Angeles riots did.

The vast majority of White Americans are analyzing the verdict, and they're
discovering late what some of us have said for years.

The near future will show several new trends directly related to the anti-
White racist verdict.  Among them a stronger anti-affirmative action and
anti-welfare sentiment, a greater tolerance for, if not acceptance of,
"white supremacist" views, and a widespread resentment of Whites against
Blacks leading to less "integration" in both the public and private sectors.

Yo, homey!  You done fucked up.

Soon, you'll have more "power" to fight than you can handle.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.

-----

White people!  Educate yourself!  Contact:

The National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro WV  24946

Telephone hotline: (304) 653-4600

Check these URLs out, too:

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/
http://www.resistance.com/


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Oct  7 08:41:53 PDT 1995
Article: 278791 of talk.politics.misc
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: The Verdict: the consequences
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
Reply-To: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 01:02:53 GMT
Lines: 58

Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, shortly after the surprise attack at Pearl
Harbor, observed that the Japanese had, blinded by arrogance, "awakened a
sleeping giant."

On October 3rd, 1995, a predominately colored jury returned an incredible
verdict, an unjust verdict mocking the gruesome deaths of two people.  Blinded
by arrogance, the jury, deliberately ignoring the Mount Everest of damning 
evidence, found O.J. Simpson not guilty of two indescribably vicious 
slaughters of his ex-wife and her friend.

The home boys and home girls wanted to "get one up on honky."

What they have done is awakened a sleeping giant.

Scummy shyster Johnnie Cochran urged the jury to send a message that White
"racism" would no longer be tolerated.  The jury listened, and White America
has heard the laughs and cheers that racism against Whites is condoned and
approved of by a majority of Black Americans.  Whites, some of whom their
entire lives have sympathized with and helped Blacks in their struggles, have
been hit with hard reality that their sincere desire for a "color-blind"
society is NOT reflected in the Black community.  They have been duped, duped
long and hard, and, they're -- understandably -- MAD.

What a billion dollars of neo-Nazi propaganda could never do, a relatively
simple arrogant, pompous act by a race-conscious jury has done in an instant.
The jury's action will not bring a reduction of racism -- it has polarized
America racially as not even the colored Los Angeles riots did.

The vast majority of White Americans are analyzing the verdict, and they're
discovering late what some of us have said for years.

The near future will show several new trends directly related to the anti-
White racist verdict.  Among them a stronger anti-affirmative action and
anti-welfare sentiment, a greater tolerance for, if not acceptance of,
"white supremacist" views, and a widespread resentment of Whites against
Blacks leading to less "integration" in both the public and private sectors.

Yo, homey!  You done fucked up.

Soon, you'll have more "power" to fight than you can handle.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.

-----

White people!  Educate yourself!  Contact:

The National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro WV  24946

Telephone hotline: (304) 653-4600

Check these URLs out, too:

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/
http://www.resistance.com/


From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Mon Oct  9 06:39:08 PDT 1995
Article: 60266 of soc.culture.german
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: WARNING TO TOURISTS TRAVELING TO GERMANY
Date: 9 Oct 1995 03:48:44 GMT
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**WARNING TO TOURISTS TRAVELING TO GERMANY**


Pursuant to German Federal Statute 130, Article 3, you are subject to arrest
and prosecution if you make unlawful statements or carry into Germany prohib-
ited materials, including certain books or publications available in your 
local library.

American citizen Hans Schmidt was recently arrested in Frankfurt for writing a
newsletter in the United States which was also sent to German addresses.  He is
being detained in violation of basic human rights.  Amnesty International has 
denounced this flagrant violation of human rights.

Before traveling to Germany, for your own protection, contact the Embassy of
the Federal Republic of Germany in Washington at (202) 298-4000, or the German
Information Center in New York at (212) 888-9840, to obtain a list of books,
magazines, tapes, and phrases and ideas which are unlawful in the Federal
Republic of Germany.

North American travelers will not have the protection of the United States
Bill of Rights or the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms while in Germany.
Travel to Germany is taken at one's own risk.



From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Mon Oct  9 06:49:33 PDT 1995
Article: 279131 of talk.politics.misc
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: The Verdict: the consequences
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:57:53 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: tigger.stcloud.msus.edu

Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, shortly after the surprise attack at Pearl
Harbor, observed that the Japanese had, blinded by arrogance, "awakened a
sleeping giant."

On October 3rd, 1995, a predominately colored jury returned an incredible
verdict, an unjust verdict mocking the gruesome deaths of two people.  Blinded
by arrogance, the jury, deliberately ignoring the Mount Everest of damning 
evidence, found O.J. Simpson not guilty of two indescribably vicious slaughters
of his ex-wife and her friend.

The home boys and home girls wanted to "get one up on honky."

What they have done is awakened a sleeping giant.

Scummy shyster Johnnie Cochran urged the jury to send a message that White
"racism" would no longer be tolerated.  The jury listened, and White America
has heard the laughs and cheers that racism against Whites is condoned and
approved of by a majority of Black Americans.  Whites, some of whom their
entire lives have sympathized with and helped Blacks in their struggles, have
been hit with hard reality that their sincere desire for a "color-blind"
society is NOT reflected in the Black community.  They have been duped, duped
long and hard, and, they're -- understandably -- MAD.

What a billion dollars of neo-Nazi propaganda could never do, a relatively
simple arrogant, pompous act by a race-conscious jury has done in an instant.
The jury's action will not bring a reduction of racism -- it has polarized
America racially as not even the colored Los Angeles riots did.

The vast majority of White Americans are analyzing the verdict, and they're
discovering late what some of us have said for years.

The near future will show several new trends directly related to the anti-White
racist verdict.  Among them a stronger anti-affirmative action and anti-welfare
sentiment, a greater tolerance for, if not acceptance of, "white supremacist"
views, and a widespread resentment of Whites against Blacks leading to less
"integration" in both the public and private sectors.

Yo, homey!  You done fucked up.

Soon, you'll have more "power" to fight than you can handle.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.



From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Mon Oct  9 07:03:21 PDT 1995
Article: 211034 of talk.politics.guns
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: The Verdict: the consequences
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:52:02 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: tigger.stcloud.msus.edu

Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, shortly after the surprise attack at Pearl
Harbor, observed that the Japanese had, blinded by arrogance, "awakened a
sleeping giant."

On October 3rd, 1995, a predominately colored jury returned an incredible
verdict, an unjust verdict mocking the gruesome deaths of two people.  Blinded
by arrogance, the jury, deliberately ignoring the Mount Everest of damning 
evidence, found O.J. Simpson not guilty of two indescribably vicious slaughters
of his ex-wife and her friend.

The home boys and home girls wanted to "get one up on honky."

What they have done is awakened a sleeping giant.

Scummy shyster Johnnie Cochran urged the jury to send a message that White
"racism" would no longer be tolerated.  The jury listened, and White America
has heard the laughs and cheers that racism against Whites is condoned and
approved of by a majority of Black Americans.  Whites, some of whom their
entire lives have sympathized with and helped Blacks in their struggles, have
been hit with hard reality that their sincere desire for a "color-blind"
society is NOT reflected in the Black community.  They have been duped, duped
long and hard, and, they're -- understandably -- MAD.

What a billion dollars of neo-Nazi propaganda could never do, a relatively
simple arrogant, pompous act by a race-conscious jury has done in an instant.
The jury's action will not bring a reduction of racism -- it has polarized
America racially as not even the colored Los Angeles riots did.

The vast majority of White Americans are analyzing the verdict, and they're
discovering late what some of us have said for years.

The near future will show several new trends directly related to the anti-White
racist verdict.  Among them a stronger anti-affirmative action and anti-welfare
sentiment, a greater tolerance for, if not acceptance of, "white supremacist"
views, and a widespread resentment of Whites against Blacks leading to less
"integration" in both the public and private sectors.

Yo, homey!  You done fucked up.

Soon, you'll have more "power" to fight than you can handle.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.



From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Mon Oct  9 07:03:22 PDT 1995
Article: 211046 of talk.politics.guns
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: It began long before O.J. Simpson...
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:48:24 GMT
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"The Race War of Black Against White"

By Paul Sheehan

_Sydney Morning Herald_, May 20, 1995


   The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not 
over.  It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims.
It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War.  It determined the result
of last year's congressional election.

   Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which 
remains between the lines and unreported.  In fact, to even suggest that the  
war exists is to be discredited.  So let's start suggesting, immediately.

   No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or
dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the
official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black
America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.

   And the problem is getting worse, not better.  In the past 20 years, violent
crime has increased more than four times faster than the population.  Young
blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times
more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

   Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been
reported in America:

*  According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims,
   more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) 
   are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 mil-
   lion, are inter-racial crimes.

*  Most victims of race crime -- about 90 per cent -- are white, according to
   the survey "Highlights From 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published
   in 1993.

*  Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped 
   by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were mur-
   dered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

*  Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites
   even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white
   population.  When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they re-
   veal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times 
   the violent racial crimes of whites.

*  According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of In-
   vestigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white
   victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites mur-
   der blacks.

   These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there 
was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not co-
incidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil 
rights movement.

   Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering.  Justice Department
and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million
violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black
offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-
racial murders.  By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 
were killed in the Korean War.

   When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft)
are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious.  The Bureau of Justice
Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992,
and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders
and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

   When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans
have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past
30 years.  It is the great defining disaster of American life and American
ideals since World War II.

   All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the
facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media.  It
prefers to maintain a paternalistic double standard in its coverage of black
America, a lower standard.

-----

Don't get mad, get organized!  Contact America's leading organization that
stands up for White Americans:

The National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro WV  24946

Hotline: (304) 653-4600

Check out these URLs, too:

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Oct  9 23:22:06 PDT 1995
Article: 279917 of talk.politics.misc
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: O.J. Simpson didn't start it...
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Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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"The Race War of Black Against White"

By Paul Sheehan

_Sydney Morning Herald_, May 20, 1995


   The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not 
over.  It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims.
It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War.  It determined the result
of last year's congressional election.

   Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which 
remains between the lines and unreported.  In fact, to even suggest that the  
war exists is to be discredited.  So let's start suggesting, immediately.

   No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or
dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the
official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black
America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.

   And the problem is getting worse, not better.  In the past 20 years, violent
crime has increased more than four times faster than the population.  Young
blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times
more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

   Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been
reported in America:

*  According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims,
   more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) 
   are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 mil-
   lion, are inter-racial crimes.

*  Most victims of race crime -- about 90 per cent -- are white, according to
   the survey "Highlights From 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published
   in 1993.

*  Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped 
   by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were mur-
   dered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

*  Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites
   even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white
   population.  When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they re-
   veal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times 
   the violent racial crimes of whites.

*  According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of In-
   vestigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white
   victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites mur-
   der blacks.

   These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there 
was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not co-
incidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil 
rights movement.

   Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering.  Justice Department
and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million
violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black
offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-
racial murders.  By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 
were killed in the Korean War.

   When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft)
are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious.  The Bureau of Justice
Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992,
and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders
and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

   When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans
have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past
30 years.  It is the great defining disaster of American life and American
ideals since World War II.

   All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the
facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media.  It
prefers to maintain a paternalistic double standard in its coverage of black
America, a lower standard.

-----

Don't get mad, get organized!  Contact America's leading organization that
stands up for White Americans:

The National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro WV  24946

Hotline: (304) 653-4600

Check out these URLs, too:

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/




From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Oct  9 23:22:07 PDT 1995
Article: 279918 of talk.politics.misc
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: The Verdict: the consequences
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, shortly after the surprise attack at Pearl
Harbor, observed that the Japanese had, blinded by arrogance, "awakened a
sleeping giant."

On October 3rd, 1995, a predominately colored jury returned an incredible
verdict, an unjust verdict mocking the gruesome deaths of two people.  Blinded
by arrogance, the jury, deliberately ignoring the Mount Everest of damning 
evidence, found O.J. Simpson not guilty of two indescribably vicious slaughters
of his ex-wife and her friend.

The home boys and home girls wanted to "get one up on honky."

What they have done is awakened a sleeping giant.

Scummy shyster Johnnie Cochran urged the jury to send a message that White
"racism" would no longer be tolerated.  The jury listened, and White America
has heard the laughs and cheers that racism against Whites is condoned and
approved of by a majority of Black Americans.  Whites, some of whom their
entire lives have sympathized with and helped Blacks in their struggles, have
been hit with hard reality that their sincere desire for a "color-blind"
society is NOT reflected in the Black community.  They have been duped, duped
long and hard, and, they're -- understandably -- MAD.

What a billion dollars of neo-Nazi propaganda could never do, a relatively
simple arrogant, pompous act by a race-conscious jury has done in an instant.
The jury's action will not bring a reduction of racism -- it has polarized
America racially as not even the colored Los Angeles riots did.

The vast majority of White Americans are analyzing the verdict, and they're
discovering late what some of us have said for years.

The near future will show several new trends directly related to the anti-White
racist verdict.  Among them a stronger anti-affirmative action and anti-welfare
sentiment, a greater tolerance for, if not acceptance of, "white supremacist"
views, and a widespread resentment of Whites against Blacks leading to less
"integration" in both the public and private sectors.

Yo, homey!  You done fucked up.

Soon, you'll have more "power" to fight than you can handle.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.

-----

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/



From hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Mon Oct  9 23:26:56 PDT 1995
Article: 211598 of talk.politics.guns
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From: hermann@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (MILTON JOHN KLEIM, JR.)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Send the Hicks back to the sticks in '96
Date: 10 Oct 1995 04:59:44 GMT
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Commissar-General Clinton has voiced his support for "affirmative action" and 
welfare for the non-producers in the face of swift opposition from White
Americans.

The solution is simple:

"Send the Hicks back to the sticks in '96."

Black America has expressed its gratitude for White America's generosity and
self-sacrifice with laughs and cheers following the Travesty of Tuesday.  It's 
only fair we "honkies" return the favor.

Vote against EVERY pro-Black, anti-White affirmative action/welfare booster in
the District of Corruption!  If Black America laughs and cheers when a savage
murderer is set free, White Americans have no moral responsility to support
such uncivilized folk.  



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Oct 15 17:46:22 PDT 1995
Article: 10775 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: The Spectre of McCarthyism (was: Racist Nazis conspire...)
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
Reply-To: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Organization: Aryan Online
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:51:17 GMT
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Jamie McCarthy, professional "Net cop," writes:
 
> I wish to emphasize that I do not advocate censorship or suppression
> of their views.  We need to let the Nazis have the rights which they
> would take away from us:  the rights to speak and write freely, and to
> organize peaceably.

Don't speak for me, Mr. McCarthy.  I have never advocated censoring
anyone, including you.  I invite the reader to investigate Mr. McCarthy,
to see which of us, he or I, am the REAL "Nazi."  Please do take note that
a special project Mr. McCarthy is deeply involved in, the so-called Nizkor
Project, has as one aim the collection of posts and private e-mails of
numerous cybernauts, which are archived for public viewing.  This is an
obvious breach of netiquette, as well as a clear demonstration of the
"Nazi" mentality of Mr. McCarthy and his co-conspirator Mr. Ken Mcvay.

It is Mr. McCarthy who has adopted Gestapo and J. Edgar Hoover tactics of
keeping files on their opponents -- not me, nor my friends.  For more
information, check out http://www.almanac.bc.ca, to view the work of
Net Gestapo agents McCarthy and Mcvay. 

> I only wish to make people aware that what may _appear_ to be many Nazis
> acting individually is _actually_ a conspiracy.

I again invite the reader to look into Mr. McCarthy's activities of
keeping "dossiers" on his opponents, just like Himmler and Hoover, and
remind all he is the REAL conspirator in violating Netiquette as well as
breaching copyright on many items written by myself and my friends.

Jamie, might you happen to be any relation to another infamous McCarthy,
Senator Joe from Wisconsin?


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Oct 16 07:04:48 PDT 1995
Article: 10775 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: The Spectre of McCarthyism (was: Racist Nazis conspire...)
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Jamie McCarthy, professional "Net cop," writes:
 
> I wish to emphasize that I do not advocate censorship or suppression
> of their views.  We need to let the Nazis have the rights which they
> would take away from us:  the rights to speak and write freely, and to
> organize peaceably.

Don't speak for me, Mr. McCarthy.  I have never advocated censoring
anyone, including you.  I invite the reader to investigate Mr. McCarthy,
to see which of us, he or I, am the REAL "Nazi."  Please do take note that
a special project Mr. McCarthy is deeply involved in, the so-called Nizkor
Project, has as one aim the collection of posts and private e-mails of
numerous cybernauts, which are archived for public viewing.  This is an
obvious breach of netiquette, as well as a clear demonstration of the
"Nazi" mentality of Mr. McCarthy and his co-conspirator Mr. Ken Mcvay.

It is Mr. McCarthy who has adopted Gestapo and J. Edgar Hoover tactics of
keeping files on their opponents -- not me, nor my friends.  For more
information, check out http://www.almanac.bc.ca, to view the work of
Net Gestapo agents McCarthy and Mcvay. 

> I only wish to make people aware that what may _appear_ to be many Nazis
> acting individually is _actually_ a conspiracy.

I again invite the reader to look into Mr. McCarthy's activities of
keeping "dossiers" on his opponents, just like Himmler and Hoover, and
remind all he is the REAL conspirator in violating Netiquette as well as
breaching copyright on many items written by myself and my friends.

Jamie, might you happen to be any relation to another infamous McCarthy,
Senator Joe from Wisconsin?


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Oct 20 11:12:07 PDT 1995
Article: 6513 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: The Verdict: the consequences
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, shortly after the surprise attack at Pearl
Harbor, observed that the Japanese had, blinded by arrogance, "awakened a
sleeping giant."

On October 3rd, 1995, a predominately colored jury returned an incredible
verdict, an unjust verdict mocking the gruesome deaths of two people.  Blinded
by arrogance, the jury, deliberately ignoring the Mount Everest of damning 
evidence, found O.J. Simpson not guilty of two indescribably vicious slaughters
of his ex-wife and her friend.

The home boys and home girls wanted to "get one up on honky."

What they have done is awakened a sleeping giant.

Scummy shyster Johnnie Cochran urged the jury to send a message that White
"racism" would no longer be tolerated.  The jury listened, and White America
has heard the laughs and cheers that racism against Whites is condoned and
approved of by a majority of Black Americans.  Whites, some of whom their
entire lives have sympathized with and helped Blacks in their struggles, have
been hit with hard reality that their sincere desire for a "color-blind"
society is NOT reflected in the Black community.  They have been duped, duped
long and hard, and, they're -- understandably -- MAD.

What a billion dollars of neo-Nazi propaganda could never do, a relatively
simple arrogant, pompous act by a race-conscious jury has done in an instant.
The jury's action will not bring a reduction of racism -- it has polarized
America racially as not even the colored Los Angeles riots did.

The vast majority of White Americans are analyzing the verdict, and they're
discovering late what some of us have said for years.

The near future will show several new trends directly related to the anti-White
racist verdict.  Among them a stronger anti-affirmative action and anti-welfare
sentiment, a greater tolerance for, if not acceptance of, "white supremacist"
views, and a widespread resentment of Whites against Blacks leading to less
"integration" in both the public and private sectors.

Yo, homey!  You done fucked up.

Soon, you'll have more "power" to fight than you can handle.

-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.

-----

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Oct 22 12:21:27 PDT 1995
Article: 7004 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: The Spectre of McCarthyism (was: Racist Nazis conspire...)
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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David (dckom@future.altcom.net) writes:

> Like a fungus, fascism cannot stand direct sunlight.

If you really believe this, then print my photo and the NSP on the
front-page of the Jew York Times.  I'll be happy to talk to any NYT
reporter anytime.

You, like the ADL and the SWC, know publicity is our life-blood. 



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Oct 22 12:21:28 PDT 1995
Article: 7005 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: The Spectre of McCarthyism (was: Racist Nazis conspire...)
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Marty Kelley (mkelley@U.Arizona.EDU) writes:
 
> How about this, instead--I care no LESS for others' children than I do 
> for my own--and I care a great deal for my own.

There are starving children in Africa.  Share YOUR children's dinner
EQUALLY with all of them.



From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Oct 24 08:14:35 PDT 1995
Article: 12136 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: "The Virtual Reich"
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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"Revolution Internet Style" series

_.net, the Internet magazine_, October 1995

THE VIRTUAL REICH

By Crawford Kilian


   Some are Nazis, some aren't.  Some are one-issue groups, like the
Holocaust deniers, while others want to transform society to its roots. 
You can't even call them "right-wing," because some advocate programmes
that sound more like socialism; but they're certainly at the far end of
the political spectrum from the Reds. 

   So let's call these groups the Ultra-violets, or Ultras for short.  In 
just a few years they've become prominent on the Internet, with their own 
newsgroups and Web sites, using the Net to bring about their own par-
ticular brand of revolution.

   Other Net users regard the Ultras as cranks, losers, or as an outright 
menace.  Along with the pornographers, the Ultras provoke repeated calls 
for limits on Net freedom of speech.  They drew still more attention 
after the Oklahoma City bombing last spring.  In the US and Canada, the 
stereotype of a racist suddenly changed from urban skinhead to small-town 
gun nut playing soldier in camouflage on weekends and using the Internet 
to swap paranoid lies with like-minded goons.

   Look at the Net's live Ultras and you soon see something different.  
For one thing, they are very far from illiterate.  All the texts on Don 
Black's Stormfront site, for example, are very clearly and correctly 
written.  While I can't judge his German-language materials, his texts in 
Spanish are as well-written as the English ones, and the mere fact that 
he runs a Web site in three different languages is a reflection of a cosmo-
politan outlook, itself another challenge to stereotype.  It's also a 
sizeable store of right-wing art so if you're confused enough to want to 
dress up your desktop with swastikas and other sundry insignia it's an 
ideal place to visit.

   In many cases the Ultras are clearly concerned with making a 
documented case for their views.  Marc Lemire of the Digital Freedom BBS 
in Canada often posts extensive reviews of books questioning the 
Holocaust or documenting the firestorm that destroyed Dresden.

   Greg Raven of the Institute for Historical Review (a Holocaust-denying 
group in California) says revisionism has no connection with neo-Nazism, 
white nationalism, or other Ultra positions.  "Historical revisionism is 
supposed to be a part of writing history (historiography).  As time 
passes, we gain new information and new insights, which enable us to 
better perceive not only the facts of events but also their context.  
Furthermore, the IHR is neither ideological nor political."

   Maybe not, but according to Ken Mcvay of the Nizkor Project, a Web-based
organisation which campaigns against the far-right, the IHR was founded 
in 1979 by William David McCalden, who had founded the British National 
Party, a breakaway from the National Front, a few years earlier.


"Racist, me?"


   Raven's home page explicitly denies carrying anything racist or 
hateful and promises to withdraw anything criticised as such.  For a time 
he offered a link to the home page of a community newspaper in North 
Vancouver, British Columbia, which carries a columnist sympathetic to 
Holocaust denial.  When the paper discovered the link it asked Raven to 
close it; he promptly did so.

   Nevertheless, Raven doesn't ask Stormfront to close its links to his 
own home page, and Stormfront is avowedly White Nationalist.  Based in 
West Palm Beach, Florida, Stormfront features a Nazi-style Gothic 
lettering, extensive links to sympathetic groups elsewhere in the US and 
Canada, and extensive texts and graphics.  According to Milton John 
Kleim, Jr., who calls himself "Net Nazi Number One," Stormfront "lists 
just about every important individual and group that should be noted."

   Indeed, the Net itself is the common denominator of the Ultras.  They 
may disagree with one another, even quarrel bitterly, but they keep the 
lines of communication open to one another.  That's because without the 
Net, the Ultras are scattered and isolated.  Marc Lemire describes his 
own progress in Ontario, Canada:

   "I started up a hotline called the Canadian Patriots Network on 1 
November 1993.  From that hotline I could reach thousands of people 
around the world every week.  We actually had a regular caller from South 
Africa.  After one and a half years of that I decided that I could reach 
far more people over the Internet and through a BBS I was starting up.

   "So on 1 April 1995 I started up Digitial Freedom BBS (001-416-
462-3327).  I also got two Internet sites and began forging a lot of 
contacts with like minded people on the Internet.  Within four months I 
had an e-mail list of around 400 and contacts with all the sysops and 
leaders throughout the US and Canada.  We are also working quite closely 
with European leaders.  We have our address on two World Wide Web sites 
and I post to USENET every day."


"Doesn't matter if you're red or white"


   Kleim in Minnesota has found a similar community forming through the 
Net.  "All my comrades and I, none of whom I have ever met face-to-face, 
share a unique camaraderie, feeling as though we have been friends for a 
long time.  Selfless cooperation occurs regularly among my comrades for a 
variety of endeavours.  This intense feeling of comradeship is irre-
spective of national identity or State borders."

   Is the Net a useful means of recruiting sympathisers?  "Absolutely," 
says Kleim.  "There are millions of people who agree with us, but feel 
isolated and helpless because they don't know who to contact to network 
with others who feel similarly...USENET, in combination with the Web, 
offers an unparalleled opportunity for our Movement to get our views and 
more importantly our facts across to the general public."

   Marc Lemire agrees.  "It is the best recruiting tool we have.  For 
example, my mailing list from Digital Freedom grew from only five people 
back in April to over 400 people in July.  If it continues that way for a 
year I will have reached 1,600 people.  Not bad!"
 
   How many are British?  "I am in contact with only a few British 
comrades," says Kleim, "all of whom wish to remain anonymous due to the 
dispicable restrictions on free thought and expression, imposed by a
criminally-negligent government out of touch with its nation's proud 
heritage of freedom and the wishes of the majority of the British 
people."  Touchy subject, obviously.


"A bit of dark reading"


   What else do Ultras share besides a sense of camaraderie?  On 
Stormfront, Net users have a considerable range of materials to download 
and links to other sites.  Earlier this summer, the page was offering 
"Thunderbolts" (news items of interest), "Storm Warnings" (commentary), 
letters from friends and foes, and a number of major documents; three 
long articles about the siege of the Branch Davidians at Waco by US 
government forces; two stories about the Oklahoma City bombing (their 
theory: the government itself planted the bomb); three Canadian stories, 
and two racial-issues stories (in one, ex-Nazi David Duke, now a 
Louisiana State legislator, finds much to admire in the Indian caste system).

   A "White Nationalism FAQ" on Stormfront proposes creating seperate 
nations for whites and non-whites, to spare whites from continuing 
exploitation through racial-preference schemes in hiring, university 
admissions and government contracting.  The FAQ's author, using the pen 
name Yggdrasil, suggests ceding land already occupied by non-Whites.  
White-only areas, however, would still welcome Asians; the only ones with 
much to fear, evidently, would be white liberals: "Those who are guilty 
of 'integrationism' should do the sensible thing and flee.  It will spare 
us all a lot of pain."

   Milton Kleim, by contrast, sees a different future: "The United States 
of America, the Confederate States of America, Canada, and Quebec would 
be unified into one nation-state, perhaps known as the Aryan Confederation."
Local government would operate with elected officials, "but the present 
ridiculous parliamentary game in national politics would be replaced with 
frequent referenda for important issues."

   Kleim would follow a "live and let live" policy with nations like 
Japan and Iraq.  "Belligerent actions of those governments violently 
opposed to us, such as the criminal State of Israel, or the menace to the 
world called China, would be countered with equal force, up to and 
including total utilisation of America's strategic forces."

   Marc Lemire foresees "propaganda-free education, where blacks could 
have their own courses, Jewish people could learn all they want about the 
Holocaust and us whites could learn exclusively about white history."

   The Ultras have encountered everything from jail sentences to e-mailed 
death threats, but appear determined to carry on -- indeed, they welcome 
attacks as a means of publicising their cause.  Critics may damn their 
anti-Semitism, mock their paranoia (one Ultra group wondered whether 
Stormfront was a government-run trap), and dismiss their "facts" as 
fabrications.  Nevertheless, half a century after the defeat of Nazism, 
something in its world view still appeals to them.  And just as the Nazis 
used the new media of radio and film, their spiritual descendants are 
using the Internet to spread the same message.  Are you just going to 
stand by and watch?


"They're out there...Somewhere"


   The Ultras attract attention out of all proportion to their actual 
numbers, and their organisations appear to be small and few.  In some 
cases, the person who posts on behalf of a group may be the group's only 
computer user (and may even be the whole group).  Many Ultras prefer to 
post anonymously; this may explain the absence of any British Ultra 
groups, although individuals in the UK will take part in discussions on 
Ultra newsgroups.  In the following list, organisations are US-based 
unless otherwise described.

The pre-eminent Ultra source.

   This is of course Stormfront (http://204.181.176.4/stormfront/), but 
numerous others are worth examining:

The Institute for Historial Review

   It doesn't have its own Web site, but Greg Raven is editor of its 
Journal for Historical Review.  He says his home page has no formal 
connection with the IHR, but his page provides a forum for Institute 
viewpoints.  You can reach Greg Raven's homepage at http://www.kaiwan.
com:80/~greg.ihr/

   This site also provides access to Ernst Zundel's Voice of Freedom home 
page.  Zundel is a longtime denier of the Holocaust who has been in 
trouble with Canadian law.  His home was recently destroyed by arson; his 
critics, tongue in cheek, say the fire never happened.

The National Alliance

   This is active on the Net, offering detailed tactical and strategic 
advice: for example, to vote for the most left-wing candidates avail-
able.  This will ensure that life will become more rapidly intolerable 
for exploited whites, rousing them from their apathy to join the Ultra 
cause.  It's accessible through Stormfront, or directly at ftp://
ftp.netcom.com/pub/NA/NA/

SPIRAL

   The Society for the Protection of Individual Rights and Liberties 
archives materials from all over the Net.  It supplies information from 
numerous groups such as Terra Libra (terrhq@ix.netcom.com), the Constitu-
tion Party (constitution@earthquake.net) and the American Freedom Net, 
which has no e-mail address but which claims the US government is a 
puppet of the Royal Institute for International Affairs in London.  For 
details on SPIRAL e-mail alex@spiral.com

The National Socialist Page

   This supplies Milton John Kleim, Jr.'s National Socialism Primer at 
http://www.gl.umb.edu/~laude/natlsocial.ntml

Resistance Records

   It distributes skinhead music, has its home page at http://www.resistance.
com/ and is also accessible by e-mail at rrecords@resistance.com

The Heritage Front

   A Canadian organisation, puts selections from its print magazine, _Up 
Front_, on its home page, but rarely updates.  You can reach it through 
Stormfront or directly at http://204.181.176.4/stormfront/ufl8dx.html

US militia groups

   The Patriot Archive provides considerable details on this subject.  It 
also supplies information on media available through the Net, e-mail 
addresses of US members of Congress, and other data.  Accessible through 
Stormfront or directly at http://www.tezcat.com:80/patriot/

CyberHate

   http://www.vms.utexas.edu/~axl/index.html is the home page of Reuben 
Logsdon; well-written and sometimes witty, it provides links to a broader 
range of sites than Stormfront, including government and anti-Ultra groups.

Mailing lists

   The Frog Farm (frog.farm-request@blizzard.lcs.mit.edu)
   Patriots (patriot@kaiwan.com)

Newsgroups

   Those dealing with Ultra issues include alt.politics.nationalism.white,
alt.politics.white-power, alt.revisionism and alt.skinheads.

BBSs

   Several are active in the US, but the only European one listed on 
Stormfront is Widerstand (49-9131-201124), based in Erlangen, Germany; 
the sysop is Alfred Tetzlaff.

The Nizkor Project

   For anyone interested in an informed outsider's view of the Ultras, 
the most important resource is the Nizkor Project (http://nizkor.almanac.
bc.ca).  Established by Ken Mcvay, a Canadian, it provides exhaustive and 
detailed information on individuals, groups and publications: extensive 
postings, news stories, and other background.  The purpose of the Nizkor 
Project is to document both the Holocaust and the inconsistencies in 
Ultra doctrine and statements.  Most of the persons mentioned in this 
article have files in this archive; and despite Mcvay's relentless 
attacks on them, even some Ultra groups consider this an invaluable source.




From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Oct 24 08:14:36 PDT 1995
Article: 12139 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Genocidal Threats from Nazis (Re: The Spectre of McCarthyis
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Daniel Keren (dkeren@world.std.com) writes:

> Anyway, the matter here was Kleim's statement about Jews who 
> will be executed after being convicted with "crimes against the 
> Aryan Race". It should be clear to everyone that this is a genocidal
> threat with which Kleim means to intimidate the opposition, as
> well as to outline his future plans. The writing is on the wall.

Ah, the professional liar is at it again!

My original statement was that ANYONE (NOT just Jews, as the professional
liars have made it out to be) who was guilty of perpetrating genocide
against the Aryan Race would be tried for "crimes against the Aryan Race."
If they were "major offenders," and were convicted with the present rules
of evidence used in US courts, capital punishment was justified.

*I* didn't criminalize genocide; the so-called "United Nations" did.  Nor
did *I* criminalize "crimes against 'humanity'"; the so-called "Allies" 
did.  We're just going to finish the game your kind started at Nu"rnberg.

-----

  We must embrace the heresy of today, for it is the standard of tomorrow.
 


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Oct 25 22:10:58 PDT 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Genocidal Threats from Nazis (Re: The Spectre of McCarthyis
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
Reply-To: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
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Daniel Keren (dkeren@world.std.com) spews venom at me:

> # My original statement was that ANYONE (NOT just Jews, as the 
> # professional liars have made it out to be) who was guilty of
> # perpetrating genocide against the Aryan Race would be tried for
> # "crimes against the Aryan Race." 
> # If they were "major offenders," and were convicted with the 
> # present rules of evidence used in US courts, capital punishment 
> # was justified.
  
> Kleim is lying through his teeth. Here's the original article
> he posted:
 
> 
 
> Article: 23406 of alt.revisionism
> Subject: Re: The National Socialism Primer
> Message-ID: 
> Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 02:10:16 GMT
 
> # Well, it's quite simple.  We will establish an investigative
> # service, which will review claims against Jews.  If there is
> # evidence for charges, a trial will be set for the individual in 
> # question.  A special tribunal will be created to try those charged
> # with "Crimes Against the Aryan Race," "Crimes Against Peace,"
> # genocide, and profiteering.  Conviction on offense number one and 
> # number three will carry a mandatory death penalty.  The other
> # two may be punished by expropriation of property and/or servitude,
> # or death.
 
> 
 
> Only Jews are mentioned in Kleim's article.

I do stand corrected.  I did not recall the exact text of my original
post.  I will now amend it to read ANYONE, instead of just Jews.

> It's hardly surprising he would write something like this; here's
> another quote from his Internet articles.
 
> 
 
> Newsgroups: alt.skinheads
> Subject: Peace...or Utter Destruction
> Message-ID: <1993Dec16.083247.7321@msus1.msus.edu>
> From: hermann@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 
> # I am an admirer of Adolf Hitler.  I embrace National Socialism.  
> # I would do so even if the Holocaust *were* fact, which I honestly 
> # believe it is not.  I would do so even if Hitler and his system 
> # had killed *60* million Jews.
 
> 
 
> It is quite clear what we are facing here.

Indeed it is.  It is quite clear that I am "goy" who Mr. Keren would like
to see "liquidated."  I am one of the few "cattle" who raise their heads
against the self-Chosen People, the Jewish Master Race.

There is nothing different between the Jewish butchers of the millions of
gentiles in Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Poland, etc., etc., and Mr. Keren,
other than he and his fellow Ehrenburgs today have not been able to implement
the "dictatorship over the proletariat" yet.  

He is enraged that I do not share the guilt complex about and pay homage
to the mythical six million.  Isn't that just too bad?

-----

           "...even the best of the Goyim [Gentiles] should die..."

                                          -- The Jewish _Talmud_


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Oct 25 22:35:22 PDT 1995
Article: 12697 of alt.revisionism
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Re: Genocidal Threats from Nazis (Re: The Spectre of McCarthyis
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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william c anderson (libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu) replies to me:

> : There is nothing different between the Jewish butchers of the millions of
> : gentiles in Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Poland, etc., etc., and Mr. Keren,
> : other than he and his fellow Ehrenburgs today have not been able to implement
> : the "dictatorship over the proletariat" yet.  
 
> Since you seem to be contending here that Joe Stalin was a Jew, Miltie,
> would you like to join Shea Kenny in his assertion that Caesar was 
> also a Jew?  How about Napolean--wanna make him a Jew, as well?

Don't try this BS.  I made no implication Stalin was a Jew.  However, his
top aide, Lazar Kaganovich was.  As were thousands of his commissars and
other assorted henchmen.  The whole "Stalin was anti-Semitic" myth is as
groundless as most of the accusations of the same today are.  The Jews,
being the masters of lies (as Schopenhauer called them), took the fact that
Stalin eliminated many of his opponents in the CPSU, most of whom were
Jewish, and created the "Soviet anti-Semitism" lie.

--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Oct 25 22:37:34 PDT 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: "The Virtual Reich"
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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"Revolution Internet Style" series

_.net, the Internet magazine_, October 1995

THE VIRTUAL REICH

By Crawford Kilian


   Some are Nazis, some aren't.  Some are one-issue groups, like the
Holocaust deniers, while others want to transform society to its roots. 
You can't even call them "right-wing," because some advocate programmes
that sound more like socialism; but they're certainly at the far end of
the political spectrum from the Reds. 

   So let's call these groups the Ultra-violets, or Ultras for short.  In 
just a few years they've become prominent on the Internet, with their own 
newsgroups and Web sites, using the Net to bring about their own par-
ticular brand of revolution.

   Other Net users regard the Ultras as cranks, losers, or as an outright 
menace.  Along with the pornographers, the Ultras provoke repeated calls 
for limits on Net freedom of speech.  They drew still more attention 
after the Oklahoma City bombing last spring.  In the US and Canada, the 
stereotype of a racist suddenly changed from urban skinhead to small-town 
gun nut playing soldier in camouflage on weekends and using the Internet 
to swap paranoid lies with like-minded goons.

   Look at the Net's live Ultras and you soon see something different.  
For one thing, they are very far from illiterate.  All the texts on Don 
Black's Stormfront site, for example, are very clearly and correctly 
written.  While I can't judge his German-language materials, his texts in 
Spanish are as well-written as the English ones, and the mere fact that 
he runs a Web site in three different languages is a reflection of a cosmo-
politan outlook, itself another challenge to stereotype.  It's also a 
sizeable store of right-wing art so if you're confused enough to want to 
dress up your desktop with swastikas and other sundry insignia it's an 
ideal place to visit.

   In many cases the Ultras are clearly concerned with making a 
documented case for their views.  Marc Lemire of the Digital Freedom BBS 
in Canada often posts extensive reviews of books questioning the 
Holocaust or documenting the firestorm that destroyed Dresden.

   Greg Raven of the Institute for Historical Review (a Holocaust-denying 
group in California) says revisionism has no connection with neo-Nazism, 
white nationalism, or other Ultra positions.  "Historical revisionism is 
supposed to be a part of writing history (historiography).  As time 
passes, we gain new information and new insights, which enable us to 
better perceive not only the facts of events but also their context.  
Furthermore, the IHR is neither ideological nor political."

   Maybe not, but according to Ken Mcvay of the Nizkor Project, a Web-based
organisation which campaigns against the far-right, the IHR was founded 
in 1979 by William David McCalden, who had founded the British National 
Party, a breakaway from the National Front, a few years earlier.


"Racist, me?"


   Raven's home page explicitly denies carrying anything racist or 
hateful and promises to withdraw anything criticised as such.  For a time 
he offered a link to the home page of a community newspaper in North 
Vancouver, British Columbia, which carries a columnist sympathetic to 
Holocaust denial.  When the paper discovered the link it asked Raven to 
close it; he promptly did so.

   Nevertheless, Raven doesn't ask Stormfront to close its links to his 
own home page, and Stormfront is avowedly White Nationalist.  Based in 
West Palm Beach, Florida, Stormfront features a Nazi-style Gothic 
lettering, extensive links to sympathetic groups elsewhere in the US and 
Canada, and extensive texts and graphics.  According to Milton John 
Kleim, Jr., who calls himself "Net Nazi Number One," Stormfront "lists 
just about every important individual and group that should be noted."

   Indeed, the Net itself is the common denominator of the Ultras.  They 
may disagree with one another, even quarrel bitterly, but they keep the 
lines of communication open to one another.  That's because without the 
Net, the Ultras are scattered and isolated.  Marc Lemire describes his 
own progress in Ontario, Canada:

   "I started up a hotline called the Canadian Patriots Network on 1 
November 1993.  From that hotline I could reach thousands of people 
around the world every week.  We actually had a regular caller from South 
Africa.  After one and a half years of that I decided that I could reach 
far more people over the Internet and through a BBS I was starting up.

   "So on 1 April 1995 I started up Digitial Freedom BBS (001-416-
462-3327).  I also got two Internet sites and began forging a lot of 
contacts with like minded people on the Internet.  Within four months I 
had an e-mail list of around 400 and contacts with all the sysops and 
leaders throughout the US and Canada.  We are also working quite closely 
with European leaders.  We have our address on two World Wide Web sites 
and I post to USENET every day."


"Doesn't matter if you're red or white"


   Kleim in Minnesota has found a similar community forming through the 
Net.  "All my comrades and I, none of whom I have ever met face-to-face, 
share a unique camaraderie, feeling as though we have been friends for a 
long time.  Selfless cooperation occurs regularly among my comrades for a 
variety of endeavours.  This intense feeling of comradeship is irre-
spective of national identity or State borders."

   Is the Net a useful means of recruiting sympathisers?  "Absolutely," 
says Kleim.  "There are millions of people who agree with us, but feel 
isolated and helpless because they don't know who to contact to network 
with others who feel similarly...USENET, in combination with the Web, 
offers an unparalleled opportunity for our Movement to get our views and 
more importantly our facts across to the general public."

   Marc Lemire agrees.  "It is the best recruiting tool we have.  For 
example, my mailing list from Digital Freedom grew from only five people 
back in April to over 400 people in July.  If it continues that way for a 
year I will have reached 1,600 people.  Not bad!"
 
   How many are British?  "I am in contact with only a few British 
comrades," says Kleim, "all of whom wish to remain anonymous due to the 
dispicable restrictions on free thought and expression, imposed by a
criminally-negligent government out of touch with its nation's proud 
heritage of freedom and the wishes of the majority of the British 
people."  Touchy subject, obviously.


"A bit of dark reading"


   What else do Ultras share besides a sense of camaraderie?  On 
Stormfront, Net users have a considerable range of materials to download 
and links to other sites.  Earlier this summer, the page was offering 
"Thunderbolts" (news items of interest), "Storm Warnings" (commentary), 
letters from friends and foes, and a number of major documents; three 
long articles about the siege of the Branch Davidians at Waco by US 
government forces; two stories about the Oklahoma City bombing (their 
theory: the government itself planted the bomb); three Canadian stories, 
and two racial-issues stories (in one, ex-Nazi David Duke, now a 
Louisiana State legislator, finds much to admire in the Indian caste system).

   A "White Nationalism FAQ" on Stormfront proposes creating seperate 
nations for whites and non-whites, to spare whites from continuing 
exploitation through racial-preference schemes in hiring, university 
admissions and government contracting.  The FAQ's author, using the pen 
name Yggdrasil, suggests ceding land already occupied by non-Whites.  
White-only areas, however, would still welcome Asians; the only ones with 
much to fear, evidently, would be white liberals: "Those who are guilty 
of 'integrationism' should do the sensible thing and flee.  It will spare 
us all a lot of pain."

   Milton Kleim, by contrast, sees a different future: "The United States 
of America, the Confederate States of America, Canada, and Quebec would 
be unified into one nation-state, perhaps known as the Aryan Confederation."
Local government would operate with elected officials, "but the present 
ridiculous parliamentary game in national politics would be replaced with 
frequent referenda for important issues."

   Kleim would follow a "live and let live" policy with nations like 
Japan and Iraq.  "Belligerent actions of those governments violently 
opposed to us, such as the criminal State of Israel, or the menace to the 
world called China, would be countered with equal force, up to and 
including total utilisation of America's strategic forces."

   Marc Lemire foresees "propaganda-free education, where blacks could 
have their own courses, Jewish people could learn all they want about the 
Holocaust and us whites could learn exclusively about white history."

   The Ultras have encountered everything from jail sentences to e-mailed 
death threats, but appear determined to carry on -- indeed, they welcome 
attacks as a means of publicising their cause.  Critics may damn their 
anti-Semitism, mock their paranoia (one Ultra group wondered whether 
Stormfront was a government-run trap), and dismiss their "facts" as 
fabrications.  Nevertheless, half a century after the defeat of Nazism, 
something in its world view still appeals to them.  And just as the Nazis 
used the new media of radio and film, their spiritual descendants are 
using the Internet to spread the same message.  Are you just going to 
stand by and watch?


"They're out there...Somewhere"


   The Ultras attract attention out of all proportion to their actual 
numbers, and their organisations appear to be small and few.  In some 
cases, the person who posts on behalf of a group may be the group's only 
computer user (and may even be the whole group).  Many Ultras prefer to 
post anonymously; this may explain the absence of any British Ultra 
groups, although individuals in the UK will take part in discussions on 
Ultra newsgroups.  In the following list, organisations are US-based 
unless otherwise described.

The pre-eminent Ultra source.

   This is of course Stormfront (http://204.181.176.4/stormfront/), but 
numerous others are worth examining:

The Institute for Historial Review

   It doesn't have its own Web site, but Greg Raven is editor of its 
Journal for Historical Review.  He says his home page has no formal 
connection with the IHR, but his page provides a forum for Institute 
viewpoints.  You can reach Greg Raven's homepage at http://www.kaiwan.
com:80/~greg.ihr/

   This site also provides access to Ernst Zundel's Voice of Freedom home 
page.  Zundel is a longtime denier of the Holocaust who has been in 
trouble with Canadian law.  His home was recently destroyed by arson; his 
critics, tongue in cheek, say the fire never happened.

The National Alliance

   This is active on the Net, offering detailed tactical and strategic 
advice: for example, to vote for the most left-wing candidates avail-
able.  This will ensure that life will become more rapidly intolerable 
for exploited whites, rousing them from their apathy to join the Ultra 
cause.  It's accessible through Stormfront, or directly at ftp://
ftp.netcom.com/pub/NA/NA/

SPIRAL

   The Society for the Protection of Individual Rights and Liberties 
archives materials from all over the Net.  It supplies information from 
numerous groups such as Terra Libra (terrhq@ix.netcom.com), the Constitu-
tion Party (constitution@earthquake.net) and the American Freedom Net, 
which has no e-mail address but which claims the US government is a 
puppet of the Royal Institute for International Affairs in London.  For 
details on SPIRAL e-mail alex@spiral.com

The National Socialist Page

   This supplies Milton John Kleim, Jr.'s National Socialism Primer at 
http://www.gl.umb.edu/~laude/natlsocial.ntml

Resistance Records

   It distributes skinhead music, has its home page at http://www.resistance.
com/ and is also accessible by e-mail at rrecords@resistance.com

The Heritage Front

   A Canadian organisation, puts selections from its print magazine, _Up 
Front_, on its home page, but rarely updates.  You can reach it through 
Stormfront or directly at http://204.181.176.4/stormfront/ufl8dx.html

US militia groups

   The Patriot Archive provides considerable details on this subject.  It 
also supplies information on media available through the Net, e-mail 
addresses of US members of Congress, and other data.  Accessible through 
Stormfront or directly at http://www.tezcat.com:80/patriot/

CyberHate

   http://www.vms.utexas.edu/~axl/index.html is the home page of Reuben 
Logsdon; well-written and sometimes witty, it provides links to a broader 
range of sites than Stormfront, including government and anti-Ultra groups.

Mailing lists

   The Frog Farm (frog.farm-request@blizzard.lcs.mit.edu)
   Patriots (patriot@kaiwan.com)

Newsgroups

   Those dealing with Ultra issues include alt.politics.nationalism.white,
alt.politics.white-power, alt.revisionism and alt.skinheads.

BBSs

   Several are active in the US, but the only European one listed on 
Stormfront is Widerstand (49-9131-201124), based in Erlangen, Germany; 
the sysop is Alfred Tetzlaff.

The Nizkor Project

   For anyone interested in an informed outsider's view of the Ultras, 
the most important resource is the Nizkor Project (http://nizkor.almanac.
bc.ca).  Established by Ken Mcvay, a Canadian, it provides exhaustive and 
detailed information on individuals, groups and publications: extensive 
postings, news stories, and other background.  The purpose of the Nizkor 
Project is to document both the Holocaust and the inconsistencies in 
Ultra doctrine and statements.  Most of the persons mentioned in this 
article have files in this archive; and despite Mcvay's relentless 
attacks on them, even some Ultra groups consider this an invaluable source.




From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Oct 25 22:38:43 PDT 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: "The Virtual Reich"
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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"Revolution Internet Style" series

_.net, the Internet magazine_, October 1995

THE VIRTUAL REICH

By Crawford Kilian


   Some are Nazis, some aren't.  Some are one-issue groups, like the
Holocaust deniers, while others want to transform society to its roots. 
You can't even call them "right-wing," because some advocate programmes
that sound more like socialism; but they're certainly at the far end of
the political spectrum from the Reds. 

   So let's call these groups the Ultra-violets, or Ultras for short.  In 
just a few years they've become prominent on the Internet, with their own 
newsgroups and Web sites, using the Net to bring about their own par-
ticular brand of revolution.

   Other Net users regard the Ultras as cranks, losers, or as an outright 
menace.  Along with the pornographers, the Ultras provoke repeated calls 
for limits on Net freedom of speech.  They drew still more attention 
after the Oklahoma City bombing last spring.  In the US and Canada, the 
stereotype of a racist suddenly changed from urban skinhead to small-town 
gun nut playing soldier in camouflage on weekends and using the Internet 
to swap paranoid lies with like-minded goons.

   Look at the Net's live Ultras and you soon see something different.  
For one thing, they are very far from illiterate.  All the texts on Don 
Black's Stormfront site, for example, are very clearly and correctly 
written.  While I can't judge his German-language materials, his texts in 
Spanish are as well-written as the English ones, and the mere fact that 
he runs a Web site in three different languages is a reflection of a cosmo-
politan outlook, itself another challenge to stereotype.  It's also a 
sizeable store of right-wing art so if you're confused enough to want to 
dress up your desktop with swastikas and other sundry insignia it's an 
ideal place to visit.

   In many cases the Ultras are clearly concerned with making a 
documented case for their views.  Marc Lemire of the Digital Freedom BBS 
in Canada often posts extensive reviews of books questioning the 
Holocaust or documenting the firestorm that destroyed Dresden.

   Greg Raven of the Institute for Historical Review (a Holocaust-denying 
group in California) says revisionism has no connection with neo-Nazism, 
white nationalism, or other Ultra positions.  "Historical revisionism is 
supposed to be a part of writing history (historiography).  As time 
passes, we gain new information and new insights, which enable us to 
better perceive not only the facts of events but also their context.  
Furthermore, the IHR is neither ideological nor political."

   Maybe not, but according to Ken Mcvay of the Nizkor Project, a Web-based
organisation which campaigns against the far-right, the IHR was founded 
in 1979 by William David McCalden, who had founded the British National 
Party, a breakaway from the National Front, a few years earlier.


"Racist, me?"


   Raven's home page explicitly denies carrying anything racist or 
hateful and promises to withdraw anything criticised as such.  For a time 
he offered a link to the home page of a community newspaper in North 
Vancouver, British Columbia, which carries a columnist sympathetic to 
Holocaust denial.  When the paper discovered the link it asked Raven to 
close it; he promptly did so.

   Nevertheless, Raven doesn't ask Stormfront to close its links to his 
own home page, and Stormfront is avowedly White Nationalist.  Based in 
West Palm Beach, Florida, Stormfront features a Nazi-style Gothic 
lettering, extensive links to sympathetic groups elsewhere in the US and 
Canada, and extensive texts and graphics.  According to Milton John 
Kleim, Jr., who calls himself "Net Nazi Number One," Stormfront "lists 
just about every important individual and group that should be noted."

   Indeed, the Net itself is the common denominator of the Ultras.  They 
may disagree with one another, even quarrel bitterly, but they keep the 
lines of communication open to one another.  That's because without the 
Net, the Ultras are scattered and isolated.  Marc Lemire describes his 
own progress in Ontario, Canada:

   "I started up a hotline called the Canadian Patriots Network on 1 
November 1993.  From that hotline I could reach thousands of people 
around the world every week.  We actually had a regular caller from South 
Africa.  After one and a half years of that I decided that I could reach 
far more people over the Internet and through a BBS I was starting up.

   "So on 1 April 1995 I started up Digitial Freedom BBS (001-416-
462-3327).  I also got two Internet sites and began forging a lot of 
contacts with like minded people on the Internet.  Within four months I 
had an e-mail list of around 400 and contacts with all the sysops and 
leaders throughout the US and Canada.  We are also working quite closely 
with European leaders.  We have our address on two World Wide Web sites 
and I post to USENET every day."


"Doesn't matter if you're red or white"


   Kleim in Minnesota has found a similar community forming through the 
Net.  "All my comrades and I, none of whom I have ever met face-to-face, 
share a unique camaraderie, feeling as though we have been friends for a 
long time.  Selfless cooperation occurs regularly among my comrades for a 
variety of endeavours.  This intense feeling of comradeship is irre-
spective of national identity or State borders."

   Is the Net a useful means of recruiting sympathisers?  "Absolutely," 
says Kleim.  "There are millions of people who agree with us, but feel 
isolated and helpless because they don't know who to contact to network 
with others who feel similarly...USENET, in combination with the Web, 
offers an unparalleled opportunity for our Movement to get our views and 
more importantly our facts across to the general public."

   Marc Lemire agrees.  "It is the best recruiting tool we have.  For 
example, my mailing list from Digital Freedom grew from only five people 
back in April to over 400 people in July.  If it continues that way for a 
year I will have reached 1,600 people.  Not bad!"
 
   How many are British?  "I am in contact with only a few British 
comrades," says Kleim, "all of whom wish to remain anonymous due to the 
dispicable restrictions on free thought and expression, imposed by a
criminally-negligent government out of touch with its nation's proud 
heritage of freedom and the wishes of the majority of the British 
people."  Touchy subject, obviously.


"A bit of dark reading"


   What else do Ultras share besides a sense of camaraderie?  On 
Stormfront, Net users have a considerable range of materials to download 
and links to other sites.  Earlier this summer, the page was offering 
"Thunderbolts" (news items of interest), "Storm Warnings" (commentary), 
letters from friends and foes, and a number of major documents; three 
long articles about the siege of the Branch Davidians at Waco by US 
government forces; two stories about the Oklahoma City bombing (their 
theory: the government itself planted the bomb); three Canadian stories, 
and two racial-issues stories (in one, ex-Nazi David Duke, now a 
Louisiana State legislator, finds much to admire in the Indian caste system).

   A "White Nationalism FAQ" on Stormfront proposes creating seperate 
nations for whites and non-whites, to spare whites from continuing 
exploitation through racial-preference schemes in hiring, university 
admissions and government contracting.  The FAQ's author, using the pen 
name Yggdrasil, suggests ceding land already occupied by non-Whites.  
White-only areas, however, would still welcome Asians; the only ones with 
much to fear, evidently, would be white liberals: "Those who are guilty 
of 'integrationism' should do the sensible thing and flee.  It will spare 
us all a lot of pain."

   Milton Kleim, by contrast, sees a different future: "The United States 
of America, the Confederate States of America, Canada, and Quebec would 
be unified into one nation-state, perhaps known as the Aryan Confederation."
Local government would operate with elected officials, "but the present 
ridiculous parliamentary game in national politics would be replaced with 
frequent referenda for important issues."

   Kleim would follow a "live and let live" policy with nations like 
Japan and Iraq.  "Belligerent actions of those governments violently 
opposed to us, such as the criminal State of Israel, or the menace to the 
world called China, would be countered with equal force, up to and 
including total utilisation of America's strategic forces."

   Marc Lemire foresees "propaganda-free education, where blacks could 
have their own courses, Jewish people could learn all they want about the 
Holocaust and us whites could learn exclusively about white history."

   The Ultras have encountered everything from jail sentences to e-mailed 
death threats, but appear determined to carry on -- indeed, they welcome 
attacks as a means of publicising their cause.  Critics may damn their 
anti-Semitism, mock their paranoia (one Ultra group wondered whether 
Stormfront was a government-run trap), and dismiss their "facts" as 
fabrications.  Nevertheless, half a century after the defeat of Nazism, 
something in its world view still appeals to them.  And just as the Nazis 
used the new media of radio and film, their spiritual descendants are 
using the Internet to spread the same message.  Are you just going to 
stand by and watch?


"They're out there...Somewhere"


   The Ultras attract attention out of all proportion to their actual 
numbers, and their organisations appear to be small and few.  In some 
cases, the person who posts on behalf of a group may be the group's only 
computer user (and may even be the whole group).  Many Ultras prefer to 
post anonymously; this may explain the absence of any British Ultra 
groups, although individuals in the UK will take part in discussions on 
Ultra newsgroups.  In the following list, organisations are US-based 
unless otherwise described.

The pre-eminent Ultra source.

   This is of course Stormfront (http://204.181.176.4/stormfront/), but 
numerous others are worth examining:

The Institute for Historial Review

   It doesn't have its own Web site, but Greg Raven is editor of its 
Journal for Historical Review.  He says his home page has no formal 
connection with the IHR, but his page provides a forum for Institute 
viewpoints.  You can reach Greg Raven's homepage at http://www.kaiwan.
com:80/~greg.ihr/

   This site also provides access to Ernst Zundel's Voice of Freedom home 
page.  Zundel is a longtime denier of the Holocaust who has been in 
trouble with Canadian law.  His home was recently destroyed by arson; his 
critics, tongue in cheek, say the fire never happened.

The National Alliance

   This is active on the Net, offering detailed tactical and strategic 
advice: for example, to vote for the most left-wing candidates avail-
able.  This will ensure that life will become more rapidly intolerable 
for exploited whites, rousing them from their apathy to join the Ultra 
cause.  It's accessible through Stormfront, or directly at ftp://
ftp.netcom.com/pub/NA/NA/

SPIRAL

   The Society for the Protection of Individual Rights and Liberties 
archives materials from all over the Net.  It supplies information from 
numerous groups such as Terra Libra (terrhq@ix.netcom.com), the Constitu-
tion Party (constitution@earthquake.net) and the American Freedom Net, 
which has no e-mail address but which claims the US government is a 
puppet of the Royal Institute for International Affairs in London.  For 
details on SPIRAL e-mail alex@spiral.com

The National Socialist Page

   This supplies Milton John Kleim, Jr.'s National Socialism Primer at 
http://www.gl.umb.edu/~laude/natlsocial.ntml

Resistance Records

   It distributes skinhead music, has its home page at http://www.resistance.
com/ and is also accessible by e-mail at rrecords@resistance.com

The Heritage Front

   A Canadian organisation, puts selections from its print magazine, _Up 
Front_, on its home page, but rarely updates.  You can reach it through 
Stormfront or directly at http://204.181.176.4/stormfront/ufl8dx.html

US militia groups

   The Patriot Archive provides considerable details on this subject.  It 
also supplies information on media available through the Net, e-mail 
addresses of US members of Congress, and other data.  Accessible through 
Stormfront or directly at http://www.tezcat.com:80/patriot/

CyberHate

   http://www.vms.utexas.edu/~axl/index.html is the home page of Reuben 
Logsdon; well-written and sometimes witty, it provides links to a broader 
range of sites than Stormfront, including government and anti-Ultra groups.

Mailing lists

   The Frog Farm (frog.farm-request@blizzard.lcs.mit.edu)
   Patriots (patriot@kaiwan.com)

Newsgroups

   Those dealing with Ultra issues include alt.politics.nationalism.white,
alt.politics.white-power, alt.revisionism and alt.skinheads.

BBSs

   Several are active in the US, but the only European one listed on 
Stormfront is Widerstand (49-9131-201124), based in Erlangen, Germany; 
the sysop is Alfred Tetzlaff.

The Nizkor Project

   For anyone interested in an informed outsider's view of the Ultras, 
the most important resource is the Nizkor Project (http://nizkor.almanac.
bc.ca).  Established by Ken Mcvay, a Canadian, it provides exhaustive and 
detailed information on individuals, groups and publications: extensive 
postings, news stories, and other background.  The purpose of the Nizkor 
Project is to document both the Holocaust and the inconsistencies in 
Ultra doctrine and statements.  Most of the persons mentioned in this 
article have files in this archive; and despite Mcvay's relentless 
attacks on them, even some Ultra groups consider this an invaluable source.

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