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Subject: Nation of Islam vs. Aryan Nationalists: how much in common?
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"Nation of Islam Rhetoric Echoes White Supremacists'"

"On the Web, anti-Semitism isn't the only recurrent theme"

By Erik Ness 
_The New York Times


The Million Man March was Louis Farrakhan's finest hour in the mainstream:
To build black unity, he moderated his nationalist fervor, lionized black
women to obscure his previously stated view of their subordinate role, and
sought at least a token dialogue with Jews. But Farrakhan's Oct. 16 speech
aside, it's somewhat surprising to find that he and his Nation of Islam
rhetorically have much in common with the racist white right, and not just
in their shared anti-Semitism.  Other parallels can be readily found on the
World Wide Web, even though some web sites seem slightly sanitized for
public consumption (For example, the home page of the National Alliance,
the West Virginia-based white supremacist group, doesn't match the violent
fervor of "The Turner Diaries," a fictionalized account of race war in
America popular among militia members and published by the Alliance.).
The following excerpts were gathered in the days after the Million Man
March from the Nation of Islam's home page (which has since gone off-
line temporarily for revisions), and from the home pages of the National
Alliance and other white supremacist groups.


Separation of the races


Nation of Islam: "We want our people in America whose parents or grand-
parents were descendant from slaves to be allowed to establish a separate
state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere.  We
believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land
and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich." 

National Alliance: "After the sickness of 'multiculturalism,' which is
destroying America, Britain, and every other Aryan nation in which it is
being promoted, has been swept away, we must again have a racially clean
area of the earth for the further development of our people.  We must have
White schools, White residential neighborhoods and recreation areas, White
workplaces, White farms and countryside.  We must have no non-Whites in our
living space, and we must have open space around us for expansion."


The chosen people


Nation of Islam: "We believe that we are the people of God's choice, as it
has been written, that god would choose the rejected and the despised.  We
can find no other persons fitting this description more than the so-called
Negroes in America." 

Christian Identity On-line: "We affirm that the Holy Bible is God's direct
communication with ONE special group of people: Israel.  Israel consists
of the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to whom the Bible is
directed. . . . We affirm that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and kindred white
peoples of the world are the direct descendants of Abraham, not the Jews as
commonly believed throughout most of Christendom.


What's wrong


Nation of Islam: "Young girls in a sex mad society are having their sexual
nature titillated by sick television programs, sick movies, sick video-
tapes, sick songs from a sick, decadent culture that is using the talent of
gifted people to spread degenerate life in the name of music and art." 

National Alliance: "We see the products of this system all around us: too
many weak, indecisive men and too many unfeminine women; a general lack of
significant goals and self-confidence; a self-indulgent population without
self-discipline or inner strength, restlessly seeking 'happiness'."


Racial Mixing


Nation of Islam: "We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should
be prohibited."

Christian Identity On-line: "Nowadays we find an overabundance of mixed
couples (oft times unwittingly and blindly) engaged in the destruction of
both of their races.  The promotion of interracial dating and mating has
taken our People by storm.  Despite the fact it is so entirely unnatural
for one to mate with a member of another race (species), this is happening
a lot as we rush at breakneck speed toward the mongrelization of our Race. 
And friends, once it's gone, it's gone.  For good.  No second chances here.
Once the bloodline is sufficiently mingled with other bloodlines, you can
kiss the future of the White race good-bye.  Our Creator demanded we keep
our seed holy (separate) and pure."


Education


Nation of Islam: "We want equal education - but separate schools up to 16
for boys and 18 for girls on the condition that the girls be sent to
women's colleges and universities.  We want all Black children educated,
taught and trained by their own teachers." 

National Alliance: "The reason for passing on the European heritage is not
just to help young people qualify for higher-paid employment or become
better dinner-table conversationalists.  It is to instill in them a
consciousness of what it means to be European -- a race consciousness --
and thereby to make racial patriots of them."


Sexual orientation


Nation of Islam: "God is angry.  He is angry at what He is looking at --
debauchery and filth paraded as morality -- and if you speak against it,
you are considered something ugly.  If a pastor speaks against homo-
sexuality, he is called homophobic. If he speaks against lesbianism, he is
not up to speed.  He is living in old times.  If we take a moral stand
against adultery and fornication, we are out of touch with reality." 

Ku Klux Klan "Outlaw homosexuality and interracial marriages.  Until 20 or
so years ago, nearly all states had sodomy and miscegenation laws and
statutes.  That were strictly enforced.  Since that time they have been
repealed or are ignored; the results are obvious with the plague of AIDS
now ravaging our land.  Both of these abominations against God and nature
must be stopped if America is ever to return to the great Christian nation
it once was."


The global economy


Nation of Islam: "We will make the shoes and cobble our feet.  We will make
the suits and dresses to clothe our backs.  We will make the underwear,
shirts, socks and other necessities that are now being imported from China,
Japan, Korea, and Italy." 

Ku Klux Klan: "Americans are losing jobs to foreign nations because our
industry is moving to Mexico to obtain cheap labor which is often only
60 or 70 cents an hour.  American industry is also enticed to move to 
Mexico in order to save millions because of nonexisting environmental laws.
The criminals in Washington have passed NAFTA and are now selling us out
with GATT."


The rich


Nation of Islam: "In reality, the mismanagement of the wealth and people of
this country is the fault of those who are at the top who have held power,
who have manipulated the masses of the people against the good of America
and the good of the world." 

National Alliance: "When personal gain is the ONLY motivation in a society,
those who already are rich can arrange things to favor themselves: They
can buy the legislation they want, and they can block threats to their power
in ways which may be destructive to the welfare of the society as a whole."


The state of the union


Nation of Islam: "America is becoming a boiling cauldron of gross dissatis-
faction.  The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said 30 percent dissatisfied could
lead to a change that affects 75 percent of the world.  But when you get
100 percent dissatisfaction, it leads to a total change.  What you have all
over the earth is total dissatisfaction and this is why Jesus said there
would be wars and rumors of wars and kingdom would rise against kingdom,
and nation against nation." 

National Alliance: "It might seem too much to say that the governmental
power structure in the united States is self-destructing before our eyes,
but its pathology becomes more apparent month by month in many ways: in
the increasingly tawdry, 'show business' style of political campaigns; in
the ever more frequent revelations of the legislators' corruption, personal
depravity, and disregard for the laws they make; in the government's
increasingly evident fear of its own citizens; above all, in the loss of
governmental will to deal with problems requiring strong, decisive, and
perhaps unpopular action."


=============================================================================

For more information on the National Alliance, check out:

http://www.natvan.com/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/

or write:

National Vanguard Books
PO Box 330
Hillsboro WV  24946

=============================================================================
--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:05:39 PST 1995
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Subject: McVeigh's alleged motivating "hate materials"
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"Report says McVeigh had political papers when he was arrested"

"Antigovernment leaflet among items found with him after Oklahoma blast"

Minneapolis _StarTribune_, November 5, 1995

OKLAHOMA CITY - 

   Bombing suspect Timothy McVeigh was carrying political documents, including
a note citing the right to kill political oppressors, when he was arrested
in April, a newspaper reported Saturday.

   Records unsealed Friday at the request of several news organizations listed
a thick envelope as one of the items McVeigh had, but the records did not
reveal its contents.

   The Daily Oklahoman reported that the envelope contained a copy of the
Declaration of Independence and material on the Branch Davidian raid near
Waco, Texas.  The newspaper did not identify its source.

   McVeigh, 27, was stopped for a traffic violation on April 19, less than two
hours after a bomb shattered the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City.  The bombing killed 169 people and injured more than 500.

   The Daily Oklahoman reported that the envelope also contained material on
the battles of Lexington and Concord, an antigovernment leaflet and
quotations from political philosophers, including John Locke.  McVeigh
reportedly wrote down the following quotation from the 17th century
philosopher:

   "I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away my liberty would
   not when he had me in his power to take away everything else.  And therefor
   it is lawful for me to treat him as one who has put himself into a state of
   war against me and kill him if I can."

   The papers could become important evidence as prosecutors attempt to show
that McVeigh's anger toward the federal government prompted the attack. 
But defense attorney Stephen Jones scoffed at their significance.

   "I don't find any of it incriminating.  It shows that he has an interest
in the philosophical issues of government,"  Jones said.

   McVeigh and Terry Nichols of Herington, Kan., face trial May 17 in
Lawton, Okla.  They could be sentenced to death if convicted of federal
antiterrorism and conspiracy charges.

--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:14:47 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Courage
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There's been much talk of late about learning from the Enemy, about
adopting his practice of "unity" and "cooperation."  

Well, there's an even more important Ideal the Enemy practices which we
best take to heart -- NOW.

Yesterday, the world witnessed a great act of courage, an act of courage
by a brave young man with a bright future.  Twenty-seven year old Yigal
Amir, an Israeli law student, recognized the dilemma facing his People,
accepted his racial duty, and blew away a traitor to the Jewish People and
the Jewish State.  Amir put aside his "happiness," his egotism, his love
of self, and PUT HIS PEOPLE FIRST.

The Jewish Tribe has survived hearty and strong for millenia largely
because ISRAEL COMES FIRST to each and every proud Jew.  There's been no
nonsense (until recently) about "happiness" and other materialistic
paradigms within the Jewish community.  The materialism and decadence has
been for the _Goyim_ alone.  

The Israelis are divided against themselves.  They are NOT cooperating
right now.  BUT, some Jewish Visionaries, recognizing that if treason
against Israel prospers, from whatever quarter, "war hero" Rabin or
whomever, that if treason prospers, the STATE OF ISRAEL DIES.

Are Jews more brave than Aryans?

Apparently.

Even amongst our "comrades," are such Ideals as bravery, courage, and
honor more than oft-heard pretty words?  The state of "the Movement" and
our Cause in general indicates this.  Sure there's a select few of us who
take our duty seriously, and while we're not so foolish as to advocate
illegal acts, we DO speak out publicly, and spread the word to those, who,
>from  a strategic standpoint, are the only ones who matter:

the uninformed and the unaware.

Drinking beer and listening to _Bound for Glory_ is NOT bravery.  Collect-
ing SS patches and trinkets is NOT courage.  Sitting on your ass and 
cussing the niggers on the TV screen, while Aryan women are raped, and
Aryan granfathers are beaten to death, by untermenschen, is NOT honor.

If a Jew gives up his future, and quite possibly his very life, to stop a
traitor...

ARE YOU TELLING ME **YOU** CANNOT POST TO USENET?

OR DISTRIBUTE LEAFLETS IN THE LIBRARY?

Are you really an Aryan?



--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:14:48 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Nation of Islam vs. Aryan Nationalists: how much in common?
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"Nation of Islam Rhetoric Echoes White Supremacists'"

"On the Web, anti-Semitism isn't the only recurrent theme"

By Erik Ness 
_The New York Times


The Million Man March was Louis Farrakhan's finest hour in the mainstream:
To build black unity, he moderated his nationalist fervor, lionized black
women to obscure his previously stated view of their subordinate role, and
sought at least a token dialogue with Jews. But Farrakhan's Oct. 16 speech
aside, it's somewhat surprising to find that he and his Nation of Islam
rhetorically have much in common with the racist white right, and not just
in their shared anti-Semitism.  Other parallels can be readily found on the
World Wide Web, even though some web sites seem slightly sanitized for
public consumption (For example, the home page of the National Alliance,
the West Virginia-based white supremacist group, doesn't match the violent
fervor of "The Turner Diaries," a fictionalized account of race war in
America popular among militia members and published by the Alliance.).
The following excerpts were gathered in the days after the Million Man
March from the Nation of Islam's home page (which has since gone off-
line temporarily for revisions), and from the home pages of the National
Alliance and other white supremacist groups.


Separation of the races


Nation of Islam: "We want our people in America whose parents or grand-
parents were descendant from slaves to be allowed to establish a separate
state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere.  We
believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land
and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich." 

National Alliance: "After the sickness of 'multiculturalism,' which is
destroying America, Britain, and every other Aryan nation in which it is
being promoted, has been swept away, we must again have a racially clean
area of the earth for the further development of our people.  We must have
White schools, White residential neighborhoods and recreation areas, White
workplaces, White farms and countryside.  We must have no non-Whites in our
living space, and we must have open space around us for expansion."


The chosen people


Nation of Islam: "We believe that we are the people of God's choice, as it
has been written, that god would choose the rejected and the despised.  We
can find no other persons fitting this description more than the so-called
Negroes in America." 

Christian Identity On-line: "We affirm that the Holy Bible is God's direct
communication with ONE special group of people: Israel.  Israel consists
of the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to whom the Bible is
directed. . . . We affirm that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and kindred white
peoples of the world are the direct descendants of Abraham, not the Jews as
commonly believed throughout most of Christendom.


What's wrong


Nation of Islam: "Young girls in a sex mad society are having their sexual
nature titillated by sick television programs, sick movies, sick video-
tapes, sick songs from a sick, decadent culture that is using the talent of
gifted people to spread degenerate life in the name of music and art." 

National Alliance: "We see the products of this system all around us: too
many weak, indecisive men and too many unfeminine women; a general lack of
significant goals and self-confidence; a self-indulgent population without
self-discipline or inner strength, restlessly seeking 'happiness'."


Racial Mixing


Nation of Islam: "We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should
be prohibited."

Christian Identity On-line: "Nowadays we find an overabundance of mixed
couples (oft times unwittingly and blindly) engaged in the destruction of
both of their races.  The promotion of interracial dating and mating has
taken our People by storm.  Despite the fact it is so entirely unnatural
for one to mate with a member of another race (species), this is happening
a lot as we rush at breakneck speed toward the mongrelization of our Race. 
And friends, once it's gone, it's gone.  For good.  No second chances here.
Once the bloodline is sufficiently mingled with other bloodlines, you can
kiss the future of the White race good-bye.  Our Creator demanded we keep
our seed holy (separate) and pure."


Education


Nation of Islam: "We want equal education - but separate schools up to 16
for boys and 18 for girls on the condition that the girls be sent to
women's colleges and universities.  We want all Black children educated,
taught and trained by their own teachers." 

National Alliance: "The reason for passing on the European heritage is not
just to help young people qualify for higher-paid employment or become
better dinner-table conversationalists.  It is to instill in them a
consciousness of what it means to be European -- a race consciousness --
and thereby to make racial patriots of them."


Sexual orientation


Nation of Islam: "God is angry.  He is angry at what He is looking at --
debauchery and filth paraded as morality -- and if you speak against it,
you are considered something ugly.  If a pastor speaks against homo-
sexuality, he is called homophobic. If he speaks against lesbianism, he is
not up to speed.  He is living in old times.  If we take a moral stand
against adultery and fornication, we are out of touch with reality." 

Ku Klux Klan "Outlaw homosexuality and interracial marriages.  Until 20 or
so years ago, nearly all states had sodomy and miscegenation laws and
statutes.  That were strictly enforced.  Since that time they have been
repealed or are ignored; the results are obvious with the plague of AIDS
now ravaging our land.  Both of these abominations against God and nature
must be stopped if America is ever to return to the great Christian nation
it once was."


The global economy


Nation of Islam: "We will make the shoes and cobble our feet.  We will make
the suits and dresses to clothe our backs.  We will make the underwear,
shirts, socks and other necessities that are now being imported from China,
Japan, Korea, and Italy." 

Ku Klux Klan: "Americans are losing jobs to foreign nations because our
industry is moving to Mexico to obtain cheap labor which is often only
60 or 70 cents an hour.  American industry is also enticed to move to 
Mexico in order to save millions because of nonexisting environmental laws.
The criminals in Washington have passed NAFTA and are now selling us out
with GATT."


The rich


Nation of Islam: "In reality, the mismanagement of the wealth and people of
this country is the fault of those who are at the top who have held power,
who have manipulated the masses of the people against the good of America
and the good of the world." 

National Alliance: "When personal gain is the ONLY motivation in a society,
those who already are rich can arrange things to favor themselves: They
can buy the legislation they want, and they can block threats to their power
in ways which may be destructive to the welfare of the society as a whole."


The state of the union


Nation of Islam: "America is becoming a boiling cauldron of gross dissatis-
faction.  The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said 30 percent dissatisfied could
lead to a change that affects 75 percent of the world.  But when you get
100 percent dissatisfaction, it leads to a total change.  What you have all
over the earth is total dissatisfaction and this is why Jesus said there
would be wars and rumors of wars and kingdom would rise against kingdom,
and nation against nation." 

National Alliance: "It might seem too much to say that the governmental
power structure in the united States is self-destructing before our eyes,
but its pathology becomes more apparent month by month in many ways: in
the increasingly tawdry, 'show business' style of political campaigns; in
the ever more frequent revelations of the legislators' corruption, personal
depravity, and disregard for the laws they make; in the government's
increasingly evident fear of its own citizens; above all, in the loss of
governmental will to deal with problems requiring strong, decisive, and
perhaps unpopular action."


=============================================================================

For more information on the National Alliance, check out:

http://www.natvan.com/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/

or write:

National Vanguard Books
PO Box 330
Hillsboro WV  24946

=============================================================================
--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:14:48 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: McVeigh's alleged motivating "hate materials"
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"Report says McVeigh had political papers when he was arrested"

"Antigovernment leaflet among items found with him after Oklahoma blast"

Minneapolis _StarTribune_, November 5, 1995

OKLAHOMA CITY - 

   Bombing suspect Timothy McVeigh was carrying political documents, including
a note citing the right to kill political oppressors, when he was arrested
in April, a newspaper reported Saturday.

   Records unsealed Friday at the request of several news organizations listed
a thick envelope as one of the items McVeigh had, but the records did not
reveal its contents.

   The Daily Oklahoman reported that the envelope contained a copy of the
Declaration of Independence and material on the Branch Davidian raid near
Waco, Texas.  The newspaper did not identify its source.

   McVeigh, 27, was stopped for a traffic violation on April 19, less than two
hours after a bomb shattered the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City.  The bombing killed 169 people and injured more than 500.

   The Daily Oklahoman reported that the envelope also contained material on
the battles of Lexington and Concord, an antigovernment leaflet and
quotations from political philosophers, including John Locke.  McVeigh
reportedly wrote down the following quotation from the 17th century
philosopher:

   "I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away my liberty would
   not when he had me in his power to take away everything else.  And therefor
   it is lawful for me to treat him as one who has put himself into a state of
   war against me and kill him if I can."

   The papers could become important evidence as prosecutors attempt to show
that McVeigh's anger toward the federal government prompted the attack. 
But defense attorney Stephen Jones scoffed at their significance.

   "I don't find any of it incriminating.  It shows that he has an interest
in the philosophical issues of government,"  Jones said.

   McVeigh and Terry Nichols of Herington, Kan., face trial May 17 in
Lawton, Okla.  They could be sentenced to death if convicted of federal
antiterrorism and conspiracy charges.

--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:17:02 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Courage
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 20:02:31 GMT
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There's been much talk of late about learning from the Enemy, about
adopting his practice of "unity" and "cooperation."  

Well, there's an even more important Ideal the Enemy practices which we
best take to heart -- NOW.

Yesterday, the world witnessed a great act of courage, an act of courage
by a brave young man with a bright future.  Twenty-seven year old Yigal
Amir, an Israeli law student, recognized the dilemma facing his People,
accepted his racial duty, and blew away a traitor to the Jewish People and
the Jewish State.  Amir put aside his "happiness," his egotism, his love
of self, and PUT HIS PEOPLE FIRST.

The Jewish Tribe has survived hearty and strong for millenia largely
because ISRAEL COMES FIRST to each and every proud Jew.  There's been no
nonsense (until recently) about "happiness" and other materialistic
paradigms within the Jewish community.  The materialism and decadence has
been for the _Goyim_ alone.  

The Israelis are divided against themselves.  They are NOT cooperating
right now.  BUT, some Jewish Visionaries, recognizing that if treason
against Israel prospers, from whatever quarter, "war hero" Rabin or
whomever, that if treason prospers, the STATE OF ISRAEL DIES.

Are Jews more brave than Aryans?

Apparently.

Even amongst our "comrades," are such Ideals as bravery, courage, and
honor more than oft-heard pretty words?  The state of "the Movement" and
our Cause in general indicates this.  Sure there's a select few of us who
take our duty seriously, and while we're not so foolish as to advocate
illegal acts, we DO speak out publicly, and spread the word to those, who,
>from  a strategic standpoint, are the only ones who matter:

the uninformed and the unaware.

Drinking beer and listening to _Bound for Glory_ is NOT bravery.  Collect-
ing SS patches and trinkets is NOT courage.  Sitting on your ass and 
cussing the niggers on the TV screen, while Aryan women are raped, and
Aryan granfathers are beaten to death, by untermenschen, is NOT honor.

If a Jew gives up his future, and quite possibly his very life, to stop a
traitor...

ARE YOU TELLING ME **YOU** CANNOT POST TO USENET?

OR DISTRIBUTE LEAFLETS IN THE LIBRARY?

Are you really an Aryan?



--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:17:03 PST 1995
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Nation of Islam vs. Aryan Nationalists: how much in common?
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"Nation of Islam Rhetoric Echoes White Supremacists'"

"On the Web, anti-Semitism isn't the only recurrent theme"

By Erik Ness 
_The New York Times


The Million Man March was Louis Farrakhan's finest hour in the mainstream:
To build black unity, he moderated his nationalist fervor, lionized black
women to obscure his previously stated view of their subordinate role, and
sought at least a token dialogue with Jews. But Farrakhan's Oct. 16 speech
aside, it's somewhat surprising to find that he and his Nation of Islam
rhetorically have much in common with the racist white right, and not just
in their shared anti-Semitism.  Other parallels can be readily found on the
World Wide Web, even though some web sites seem slightly sanitized for
public consumption (For example, the home page of the National Alliance,
the West Virginia-based white supremacist group, doesn't match the violent
fervor of "The Turner Diaries," a fictionalized account of race war in
America popular among militia members and published by the Alliance.).
The following excerpts were gathered in the days after the Million Man
March from the Nation of Islam's home page (which has since gone off-
line temporarily for revisions), and from the home pages of the National
Alliance and other white supremacist groups.


Separation of the races


Nation of Islam: "We want our people in America whose parents or grand-
parents were descendant from slaves to be allowed to establish a separate
state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere.  We
believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land
and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich." 

National Alliance: "After the sickness of 'multiculturalism,' which is
destroying America, Britain, and every other Aryan nation in which it is
being promoted, has been swept away, we must again have a racially clean
area of the earth for the further development of our people.  We must have
White schools, White residential neighborhoods and recreation areas, White
workplaces, White farms and countryside.  We must have no non-Whites in our
living space, and we must have open space around us for expansion."


The chosen people


Nation of Islam: "We believe that we are the people of God's choice, as it
has been written, that god would choose the rejected and the despised.  We
can find no other persons fitting this description more than the so-called
Negroes in America." 

Christian Identity On-line: "We affirm that the Holy Bible is God's direct
communication with ONE special group of people: Israel.  Israel consists
of the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to whom the Bible is
directed. . . . We affirm that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and kindred white
peoples of the world are the direct descendants of Abraham, not the Jews as
commonly believed throughout most of Christendom.


What's wrong


Nation of Islam: "Young girls in a sex mad society are having their sexual
nature titillated by sick television programs, sick movies, sick video-
tapes, sick songs from a sick, decadent culture that is using the talent of
gifted people to spread degenerate life in the name of music and art." 

National Alliance: "We see the products of this system all around us: too
many weak, indecisive men and too many unfeminine women; a general lack of
significant goals and self-confidence; a self-indulgent population without
self-discipline or inner strength, restlessly seeking 'happiness'."


Racial Mixing


Nation of Islam: "We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should
be prohibited."

Christian Identity On-line: "Nowadays we find an overabundance of mixed
couples (oft times unwittingly and blindly) engaged in the destruction of
both of their races.  The promotion of interracial dating and mating has
taken our People by storm.  Despite the fact it is so entirely unnatural
for one to mate with a member of another race (species), this is happening
a lot as we rush at breakneck speed toward the mongrelization of our Race. 
And friends, once it's gone, it's gone.  For good.  No second chances here.
Once the bloodline is sufficiently mingled with other bloodlines, you can
kiss the future of the White race good-bye.  Our Creator demanded we keep
our seed holy (separate) and pure."


Education


Nation of Islam: "We want equal education - but separate schools up to 16
for boys and 18 for girls on the condition that the girls be sent to
women's colleges and universities.  We want all Black children educated,
taught and trained by their own teachers." 

National Alliance: "The reason for passing on the European heritage is not
just to help young people qualify for higher-paid employment or become
better dinner-table conversationalists.  It is to instill in them a
consciousness of what it means to be European -- a race consciousness --
and thereby to make racial patriots of them."


Sexual orientation


Nation of Islam: "God is angry.  He is angry at what He is looking at --
debauchery and filth paraded as morality -- and if you speak against it,
you are considered something ugly.  If a pastor speaks against homo-
sexuality, he is called homophobic. If he speaks against lesbianism, he is
not up to speed.  He is living in old times.  If we take a moral stand
against adultery and fornication, we are out of touch with reality." 

Ku Klux Klan "Outlaw homosexuality and interracial marriages.  Until 20 or
so years ago, nearly all states had sodomy and miscegenation laws and
statutes.  That were strictly enforced.  Since that time they have been
repealed or are ignored; the results are obvious with the plague of AIDS
now ravaging our land.  Both of these abominations against God and nature
must be stopped if America is ever to return to the great Christian nation
it once was."


The global economy


Nation of Islam: "We will make the shoes and cobble our feet.  We will make
the suits and dresses to clothe our backs.  We will make the underwear,
shirts, socks and other necessities that are now being imported from China,
Japan, Korea, and Italy." 

Ku Klux Klan: "Americans are losing jobs to foreign nations because our
industry is moving to Mexico to obtain cheap labor which is often only
60 or 70 cents an hour.  American industry is also enticed to move to 
Mexico in order to save millions because of nonexisting environmental laws.
The criminals in Washington have passed NAFTA and are now selling us out
with GATT."


The rich


Nation of Islam: "In reality, the mismanagement of the wealth and people of
this country is the fault of those who are at the top who have held power,
who have manipulated the masses of the people against the good of America
and the good of the world." 

National Alliance: "When personal gain is the ONLY motivation in a society,
those who already are rich can arrange things to favor themselves: They
can buy the legislation they want, and they can block threats to their power
in ways which may be destructive to the welfare of the society as a whole."


The state of the union


Nation of Islam: "America is becoming a boiling cauldron of gross dissatis-
faction.  The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said 30 percent dissatisfied could
lead to a change that affects 75 percent of the world.  But when you get
100 percent dissatisfaction, it leads to a total change.  What you have all
over the earth is total dissatisfaction and this is why Jesus said there
would be wars and rumors of wars and kingdom would rise against kingdom,
and nation against nation." 

National Alliance: "It might seem too much to say that the governmental
power structure in the united States is self-destructing before our eyes,
but its pathology becomes more apparent month by month in many ways: in
the increasingly tawdry, 'show business' style of political campaigns; in
the ever more frequent revelations of the legislators' corruption, personal
depravity, and disregard for the laws they make; in the government's
increasingly evident fear of its own citizens; above all, in the loss of
governmental will to deal with problems requiring strong, decisive, and
perhaps unpopular action."


=============================================================================

For more information on the National Alliance, check out:

http://www.natvan.com/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/

or write:

National Vanguard Books
PO Box 330
Hillsboro WV  24946

=============================================================================
--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:26:06 PST 1995
Article: 6200 of alt.skinheads
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Courage
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
Reply-To: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Organization: Aryan Online
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:57:26 GMT
Lines: 58

There's been much talk of late about learning from the Enemy, about
adopting his practice of "unity" and "cooperation."  

Well, there's an even more important Ideal the Enemy practices which we
best take to heart -- NOW.

Yesterday, the world witnessed a great act of courage, an act of courage
by a brave young man with a bright future.  Twenty-seven year old Yigal
Amir, an Israeli law student, recognized the dilemma facing his People,
accepted his racial duty, and blew away a traitor to the Jewish People and
the Jewish State.  Amir put aside his "happiness," his egotism, his love
of self, and PUT HIS PEOPLE FIRST.

The Jewish Tribe has survived hearty and strong for millenia largely
because ISRAEL COMES FIRST to each and every proud Jew.  There's been no
nonsense (until recently) about "happiness" and other materialistic
paradigms within the Jewish community.  The materialism and decadence has
been for the _Goyim_ alone.  

The Israelis are divided against themselves.  They are NOT cooperating
right now.  BUT, some Jewish Visionaries, recognizing that if treason
against Israel prospers, from whatever quarter, "war hero" Rabin or
whomever, that if treason prospers, the STATE OF ISRAEL DIES.

Are Jews more brave than Aryans?

Apparently.

Even amongst our "comrades," are such Ideals as bravery, courage, and
honor more than oft-heard pretty words?  The state of "the Movement" and
our Cause in general indicates this.  Sure there's a select few of us who
take our duty seriously, and while we're not so foolish as to advocate
illegal acts, we DO speak out publicly, and spread the word to those, who,
>from  a strategic standpoint, are the only ones who matter:

the uninformed and the unaware.

Drinking beer and listening to _Bound for Glory_ is NOT bravery.  Collect-
ing SS patches and trinkets is NOT courage.  Sitting on your ass and 
cussing the niggers on the TV screen, while Aryan women are raped, and
Aryan granfathers are beaten to death, by untermenschen, is NOT honor.

If a Jew gives up his future, and quite possibly his very life, to stop a
traitor...

ARE YOU TELLING ME **YOU** CANNOT POST TO USENET?

OR DISTRIBUTE LEAFLETS IN THE LIBRARY?

Are you really an Aryan?



--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 11:26:07 PST 1995
Article: 6201 of alt.skinheads
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Nation of Islam vs. Aryan Nationalists: how much in common?
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
Reply-To: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:58:32 GMT
Lines: 197

"Nation of Islam Rhetoric Echoes White Supremacists'"

"On the Web, anti-Semitism isn't the only recurrent theme"

By Erik Ness 
_The New York Times


The Million Man March was Louis Farrakhan's finest hour in the mainstream:
To build black unity, he moderated his nationalist fervor, lionized black
women to obscure his previously stated view of their subordinate role, and
sought at least a token dialogue with Jews. But Farrakhan's Oct. 16 speech
aside, it's somewhat surprising to find that he and his Nation of Islam
rhetorically have much in common with the racist white right, and not just
in their shared anti-Semitism.  Other parallels can be readily found on the
World Wide Web, even though some web sites seem slightly sanitized for
public consumption (For example, the home page of the National Alliance,
the West Virginia-based white supremacist group, doesn't match the violent
fervor of "The Turner Diaries," a fictionalized account of race war in
America popular among militia members and published by the Alliance.).
The following excerpts were gathered in the days after the Million Man
March from the Nation of Islam's home page (which has since gone off-
line temporarily for revisions), and from the home pages of the National
Alliance and other white supremacist groups.


Separation of the races


Nation of Islam: "We want our people in America whose parents or grand-
parents were descendant from slaves to be allowed to establish a separate
state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere.  We
believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land
and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich." 

National Alliance: "After the sickness of 'multiculturalism,' which is
destroying America, Britain, and every other Aryan nation in which it is
being promoted, has been swept away, we must again have a racially clean
area of the earth for the further development of our people.  We must have
White schools, White residential neighborhoods and recreation areas, White
workplaces, White farms and countryside.  We must have no non-Whites in our
living space, and we must have open space around us for expansion."


The chosen people


Nation of Islam: "We believe that we are the people of God's choice, as it
has been written, that god would choose the rejected and the despised.  We
can find no other persons fitting this description more than the so-called
Negroes in America." 

Christian Identity On-line: "We affirm that the Holy Bible is God's direct
communication with ONE special group of people: Israel.  Israel consists
of the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to whom the Bible is
directed. . . . We affirm that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and kindred white
peoples of the world are the direct descendants of Abraham, not the Jews as
commonly believed throughout most of Christendom.


What's wrong


Nation of Islam: "Young girls in a sex mad society are having their sexual
nature titillated by sick television programs, sick movies, sick video-
tapes, sick songs from a sick, decadent culture that is using the talent of
gifted people to spread degenerate life in the name of music and art." 

National Alliance: "We see the products of this system all around us: too
many weak, indecisive men and too many unfeminine women; a general lack of
significant goals and self-confidence; a self-indulgent population without
self-discipline or inner strength, restlessly seeking 'happiness'."


Racial Mixing


Nation of Islam: "We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should
be prohibited."

Christian Identity On-line: "Nowadays we find an overabundance of mixed
couples (oft times unwittingly and blindly) engaged in the destruction of
both of their races.  The promotion of interracial dating and mating has
taken our People by storm.  Despite the fact it is so entirely unnatural
for one to mate with a member of another race (species), this is happening
a lot as we rush at breakneck speed toward the mongrelization of our Race. 
And friends, once it's gone, it's gone.  For good.  No second chances here.
Once the bloodline is sufficiently mingled with other bloodlines, you can
kiss the future of the White race good-bye.  Our Creator demanded we keep
our seed holy (separate) and pure."


Education


Nation of Islam: "We want equal education - but separate schools up to 16
for boys and 18 for girls on the condition that the girls be sent to
women's colleges and universities.  We want all Black children educated,
taught and trained by their own teachers." 

National Alliance: "The reason for passing on the European heritage is not
just to help young people qualify for higher-paid employment or become
better dinner-table conversationalists.  It is to instill in them a
consciousness of what it means to be European -- a race consciousness --
and thereby to make racial patriots of them."


Sexual orientation


Nation of Islam: "God is angry.  He is angry at what He is looking at --
debauchery and filth paraded as morality -- and if you speak against it,
you are considered something ugly.  If a pastor speaks against homo-
sexuality, he is called homophobic. If he speaks against lesbianism, he is
not up to speed.  He is living in old times.  If we take a moral stand
against adultery and fornication, we are out of touch with reality." 

Ku Klux Klan "Outlaw homosexuality and interracial marriages.  Until 20 or
so years ago, nearly all states had sodomy and miscegenation laws and
statutes.  That were strictly enforced.  Since that time they have been
repealed or are ignored; the results are obvious with the plague of AIDS
now ravaging our land.  Both of these abominations against God and nature
must be stopped if America is ever to return to the great Christian nation
it once was."


The global economy


Nation of Islam: "We will make the shoes and cobble our feet.  We will make
the suits and dresses to clothe our backs.  We will make the underwear,
shirts, socks and other necessities that are now being imported from China,
Japan, Korea, and Italy." 

Ku Klux Klan: "Americans are losing jobs to foreign nations because our
industry is moving to Mexico to obtain cheap labor which is often only
60 or 70 cents an hour.  American industry is also enticed to move to 
Mexico in order to save millions because of nonexisting environmental laws.
The criminals in Washington have passed NAFTA and are now selling us out
with GATT."


The rich


Nation of Islam: "In reality, the mismanagement of the wealth and people of
this country is the fault of those who are at the top who have held power,
who have manipulated the masses of the people against the good of America
and the good of the world." 

National Alliance: "When personal gain is the ONLY motivation in a society,
those who already are rich can arrange things to favor themselves: They
can buy the legislation they want, and they can block threats to their power
in ways which may be destructive to the welfare of the society as a whole."


The state of the union


Nation of Islam: "America is becoming a boiling cauldron of gross dissatis-
faction.  The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said 30 percent dissatisfied could
lead to a change that affects 75 percent of the world.  But when you get
100 percent dissatisfaction, it leads to a total change.  What you have all
over the earth is total dissatisfaction and this is why Jesus said there
would be wars and rumors of wars and kingdom would rise against kingdom,
and nation against nation." 

National Alliance: "It might seem too much to say that the governmental
power structure in the united States is self-destructing before our eyes,
but its pathology becomes more apparent month by month in many ways: in
the increasingly tawdry, 'show business' style of political campaigns; in
the ever more frequent revelations of the legislators' corruption, personal
depravity, and disregard for the laws they make; in the government's
increasingly evident fear of its own citizens; above all, in the loss of
governmental will to deal with problems requiring strong, decisive, and
perhaps unpopular action."


=============================================================================

For more information on the National Alliance, check out:

http://www.natvan.com/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/

or write:

National Vanguard Books
PO Box 330
Hillsboro WV  24946

=============================================================================
--
"Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms....freedom of thought,
 belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other
 media of communication...."
                               -- Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms


From bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Nov  6 12:34:15 PST 1995
Article: 292075 of talk.politics.misc
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From: bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim)
Subject: Nation of Islam vs. Aryan Nationalists: how much in common?
Message-ID: 
Sender: bb748@freenet.carleton.ca (Milton Kleim)
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 20:08:52 GMT
Lines: 197

"Nation of Islam Rhetoric Echoes White Supremacists'"

"On the Web, anti-Semitism isn't the only recurrent theme"

By Erik Ness 
_The New York Times


The Million Man March was Louis Farrakhan's finest hour in the mainstream:
To build black unity, he moderated his nationalist fervor, lionized black
women to obscure his previously stated view of their subordinate role, and
sought at least a token dialogue with Jews. But Farrakhan's Oct. 16 speech
aside, it's somewhat surprising to find that he and his Nation of Islam
rhetorically have much in common with the racist white right, and not just
in their shared anti-Semitism.  Other parallels can be readily found on the
World Wide Web, even though some web sites seem slightly sanitized for
public consumption (For example, the home page of the National Alliance,
the West Virginia-based white supremacist group, doesn't match the violent
fervor of "The Turner Diaries," a fictionalized account of race war in
America popular among militia members and published by the Alliance.).
The following excerpts were gathered in the days after the Million Man
March from the Nation of Islam's home page (which has since gone off-
line temporarily for revisions), and from the home pages of the National
Alliance and other white supremacist groups.


Separation of the races


Nation of Islam: "We want our people in America whose parents or grand-
parents were descendant from slaves to be allowed to establish a separate
state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere.  We
believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land
and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich." 

National Alliance: "After the sickness of 'multiculturalism,' which is
destroying America, Britain, and every other Aryan nation in which it is
being promoted, has been swept away, we must again have a racially clean
area of the earth for the further development of our people.  We must have
White schools, White residential neighborhoods and recreation areas, White
workplaces, White farms and countryside.  We must have no non-Whites in our
living space, and we must have open space around us for expansion."


The chosen people


Nation of Islam: "We believe that we are the people of God's choice, as it
has been written, that god would choose the rejected and the despised.  We
can find no other persons fitting this description more than the so-called
Negroes in America." 

Christian Identity On-line: "We affirm that the Holy Bible is God's direct
communication with ONE special group of people: Israel.  Israel consists
of the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to whom the Bible is
directed. . . . We affirm that the Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and kindred white
peoples of the world are the direct descendants of Abraham, not the Jews as
commonly believed throughout most of Christendom.


What's wrong


Nation of Islam: "Young girls in a sex mad society are having their sexual
nature titillated by sick television programs, sick movies, sick video-
tapes, sick songs from a sick, decadent culture that is using the talent of
gifted people to spread degenerate life in the name of music and art." 

National Alliance: "We see the products of this system all around us: too
many weak, indecisive men and too many unfeminine women; a general lack of
significant goals and self-confidence; a self-indulgent population without
self-discipline or inner strength, restlessly seeking 'happiness'."


Racial Mixing


Nation of Islam: "We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should
be prohibited."

Christian Identity On-line: "Nowadays we find an overabundance of mixed
couples (oft times unwittingly and blindly) engaged in the destruction of
both of their races.  The promotion of interracial dating and mating has
taken our People by storm.  Despite the fact it is so entirely unnatural
for one to mate with a member of another race (species), this is happening
a lot as we rush at breakneck speed toward the mongrelization of our Race. 
And friends, once it's gone, it's gone.  For good.  No second chances here.
Once the bloodline is sufficiently mingled with other bloodlines, you can
kiss the future of the White race good-bye.  Our Creator demanded we keep
our seed holy (separate) and pure."


Education


Nation of Islam: "We want equal education - but separate schools up to 16
for boys and 18 for girls on the condition that the girls be sent to
women's colleges and universities.  We want all Black children educated,
taught and trained by their own teachers." 

National Alliance: "The reason for passing on the European heritage is not
just to help young people qualify for higher-paid employment or become
better dinner-table conversationalists.  It is to instill in them a
consciousness of what it means to be European -- a race consciousness --
and thereby to make racial patriots of them."


Sexual orientation


Nation of Islam: "God is angry.  He is angry at what He is looking at --
debauchery and filth paraded as morality -- and if you speak against it,
you are considered something ugly.  If a pastor speaks against homo-
sexuality, he is called homophobic. If he speaks against lesbianism, he is
not up to speed.  He is living in old times.  If we take a moral stand
against adultery and fornication, we are out of touch with reality." 

Ku Klux Klan "Outlaw homosexuality and interracial marriages.  Until 20 or
so years ago, nearly all states had sodomy and miscegenation laws and
statutes.  That were strictly enforced.  Since that time they have been
repealed or are ignored; the results are obvious with the plague of AIDS
now ravaging our land.  Both of these abominations against God and nature
must be stopped if America is ever to return to the great Christian nation
it once was."


The global economy


Nation of Islam: "We will make the shoes and cobble our feet.  We will make
the suits and dresses to clothe our backs.  We will make the underwear,
shirts, socks and other necessities that are now being imported from China,
Japan, Korea, and Italy." 

Ku Klux Klan: "Americans are losing jobs to foreign nations because our
industry is moving to Mexico to obtain cheap labor which is often only
60 or 70 cents an hour.  American industry is also enticed to move to 
Mexico in order to save millions because of nonexisting environmental laws.
The criminals in Washington have passed NAFTA and are now selling us out
with GATT."


The rich


Nation of Islam: "In reality, the mismanagement of the wealth and people of
this country is the fault of those who are at the top who have held power,
who have manipulated the masses of the people against the good of America
and the good of the world." 

National Alliance: "When personal gain is the ONLY motivation in a society,
those who already are rich can arrange things to favor themselves: They
can buy the legislation they want, and they can block threats to their power
in ways which may be destructive to the welfare of the society as a whole."


The state of the union


Nation of Islam: "America is becoming a boiling cauldron of gross dissatis-
faction.  The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said 30 percent dissatisfied could
lead to a change that affects 75 percent of the world.  But when you get
100 percent dissatisfaction, it leads to a total change.  What you have all
over the earth is total dissatisfaction and this is why Jesus said there
would be wars and rumors of wars and kingdom would rise against kingdom,
and nation against nation." 

National Alliance: "It might seem too much to say that the governmental
power structure in the united States is self-destructing before our eyes,
but its pathology becomes more apparent month by month in many ways: in
the increasingly tawdry, 'show business' style of political campaigns; in
the ever more frequent revelations of the legislators' corruption, personal
depravity, and disregard for the laws they make; in the government's
increasingly evident fear of its own citizens; above all, in the loss of
governmental will to deal with problems requiring strong, decisive, and
perhaps unpopular action."


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http://www.natvan.com/
http://www.io.com/~rlogsdon/

or write:

National Vanguard Books
PO Box 330
Hillsboro WV  24946

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"Report says McVeigh had political papers when he was arrested"

"Antigovernment leaflet among items found with him after Oklahoma blast"

Minneapolis _StarTribune_, November 5, 1995

OKLAHOMA CITY - 

   Bombing suspect Timothy McVeigh was carrying political documents, including
a note citing the right to kill political oppressors, when he was arrested
in April, a newspaper reported Saturday.

   Records unsealed Friday at the request of several news organizations listed
a thick envelope as one of the items McVeigh had, but the records did not
reveal its contents.

   The Daily Oklahoman reported that the envelope contained a copy of the
Declaration of Independence and material on the Branch Davidian raid near
Waco, Texas.  The newspaper did not identify its source.

   McVeigh, 27, was stopped for a traffic violation on April 19, less than two
hours after a bomb shattered the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in
Oklahoma City.  The bombing killed 169 people and injured more than 500.

   The Daily Oklahoman reported that the envelope also contained material on
the battles of Lexington and Concord, an antigovernment leaflet and
quotations from political philosophers, including John Locke.  McVeigh
reportedly wrote down the following quotation from the 17th century
philosopher:

   "I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away my liberty would
   not when he had me in his power to take away everything else.  And therefor
   it is lawful for me to treat him as one who has put himself into a state of
   war against me and kill him if I can."

   The papers could become important evidence as prosecutors attempt to show
that McVeigh's anger toward the federal government prompted the attack. 
But defense attorney Stephen Jones scoffed at their significance.

   "I don't find any of it incriminating.  It shows that he has an interest
in the philosophical issues of government,"  Jones said.

   McVeigh and Terry Nichols of Herington, Kan., face trial May 17 in
Lawton, Okla.  They could be sentenced to death if convicted of federal
antiterrorism and conspiracy charges.

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