From oneb!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ccs!covici Mon Sep 13 07:32:02 PDT 1993 Article: 27226 of alt.activism Path: oneb!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ccs!covici From: covici@ccs.covici.com (John Covici) Reply-To: covici@ccs.covici.com Newsgroups: alt.activism Subject: EIR Talks 09/08/93 Message-ID: <408-PCNews-126beta@ccs.covici.com> Date: 13 Sep 93 7:45:26 GMT Organization: Covici Computer Systems Lines: 646 - ATTENTION FREE LAROUCHE ATTENTION FREE LAROUCHE - The wider LaRouche's presence, the greater the pressure to get him free. Put LaRouche on radio, with a new interview each week. The transcript below is from a weekly hour-long interview formatted with news breaks and commercials. To get LaRouche on radio, calls from people within stations' listening area can be most effective. 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To do this, send a message to listserv@ccs.covici.com with a line saying subscribe lar-lst After that, to get an index, say index lar-lst September 8, 1993 Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. EIR Talks Interviewer: Mel Klenetsky MEL KLENETSKY: Welcome to {``Executive Intelligence Review'}s Talks.'' I'm Mel Klenetsky. We're on the line with Mr. Lyndon LaRouche from Rochester, Minnesota. Welcome, Mr. LaRouche. On the Israeli-PLO Peace Initiative: Infrastructure Is Key to Development of the Middle East's Economy For the first question, I'd like to ask you about a particular project that you have been involved in for many, many years: the Oasis Plan, and of course this is the plan that is being discussed in terms of the Israeli-Palestinian Liberation Organization talks at this point. What do you think needs to be done in these talks, and what are the parameters that you have been working on for many, many years in these types of talks? MR. LAROUCHE: Briefly, I started on this in April of 1975, at which point I made approaches to both Israeli and certain Arab circles, a wide variety of Arab circles, including the Palestinians, proposing this as a basis for peace, and indicating, as I indicate to the present day--warning also, in the same sense--that unless you start with an economic development package which is based on infrastructural development for the Middle East, that any attempt at a political solution of the conflict between Arabs and Israelis, particularly between Palestinians and Israelis, will fail. Now, I have had more sympathy on that from the Israeli side over the years, than I have from the Palestinians. Some Palestinians very much so; but the Palestinians and most of the Peace Now movement, have, up to now on the Palestinian side, insisted that they had to get a political solution--that is, the political question settled--before going into a discussion of economics. I said, If you do that, you will fail. And over the years, they {have} failed. We had two periods in which a leading faction of the Israelis were moving in this direction. One was in late 1975, early 1976, when I was working with a number of Israelis as well as Palestinians, to try to bring this into shape. Then again it erupted in the middle of the 1980s, at the time that Shimon Peres was taking his turn as Prime Minister of Israel. During that period, we worked closely with Shimon Peres's office, and several of his key aides, to try to move very rapidly and concretely on economic development projects which would be the basis for sought agreements. At that point, I produced a number of reports, not only for Mr. Peres's office, but also for the National Security Council, that is, a report to both, on my proposals on this, in which, for purposes of explication, we referred to it as a new Marshall Plan for the Middle East, that is, something done as an emergency relief exercise, excepting all such things as IMF conditionalities, as was done with the Marshall Plan with Europe; and also we called it an Oasis Plan, to emphasize the importance of water and water development and water management projects as the keystone of any successful economic development program for that region. That continued; unfortunately, the factional opposition to Mr. Peres prevented him from carrying that out as his office intended, and now, lo and behold, we find again that Shimon Peres comes back in as foreign minister in a Rabin government; he meets discreetly with the PLO leadership in Norway and places like that; and lo and behold, he comes forth with an agreement in which, under the economic section of the proposed transition to peace, we have the first five points which are a straightforward revival of the kinds of proposals for immediate action which Peres's office and we agreed upon, together with certain Palestinians, back in the Spring of 1986, to be specific. So it's quite a {deja vu}--a very pleasant {deja vu.} The urgent thing here is that we must move with all speed to {immediately} get these economic development projects, such as the canal from Gaza to the Dead Sea, going immediately, because if we wait until we discuss this thing out, enemies of progress and enemies of the human race, such as Kissinger and his friends, will be successful, through people like Sharon's buddies, in intervening to drown this agreement in blood and chaos; but now we have an opportunity. If we move fast enough to get the economic development started, we can have an agreement in the Middle East which succeeds where, because of the Bush and Thatcher administrations, we failed to seize the opportunity when the Wall came down in eastern Europe. [commercial break] Q: Mr. LaRouche, before we discuss Henry Kissinger's recent op-ed, I would like your comments on some aspects of this Oasis Plan, or these new Middle East peace talks in terms of economic programs. I know you have emphasized infrastructure development. I know also in these discussions, they are talking about enterprise zones. What do you recommend, in terms of the general approach that should be taken, in terms of these parameters? MR. LAROUCHE: Well, there are three things which, broadly, are absolutely indispensable; and don't--{don't}--introduce at all into the Middle East this idea of Chinese coolie labor called enterprise zones. I can think of no better way to blow up Gaza than to declare it the kind of enterprise zone which my old acquaintance--an affectionate fellow, but wrongheaded on economics, Jack Kemp--would recommend. The basis of economy is infrastructure, especially modern economy; and anybody who wants to put a factory in the middle of an infrastructurally undeveloped swamp, should be certified as an economic idiot; and that's essentially what enterprise zones amount to. They are just coolie slave-labor projects, pure and simple, which are doomed in the long run, and which will blow up in any case. What's needed, is this. First of all, the key to the Middle East is water. The density of useable water for agriculture and human consumption, as well as industry, per capita and per square kilometer, is the key to develop the Middle East. {Without satisfying that requirement,} you're banging your head against a wall; you'll fail. The first thing are canals and desalination. The second thing that's required, of course, is power. Now, the Palestinians, more than the Israelis, have been brainwashed--let me use the term advisedly--into saying, well, we don't want nuclear power, because then we will lose the support from around the world of our lefty friends the environmentalists; and the Palestinians have come, foolishly, to rely upon their lefty environmentalist friends. I can see no way in which the kind of success which we envisage can be done without nuclear power, particularly in desalination. I would use things like the ASEA Brown Bovari (ABB) multi-megawatt units which are thorium based or that sort of thing, which involve no problem of nuclear proliferation, but which work; and I would use installations of four units, to keep them very simple--it's called a potato reactor. I would use that, and use them in units of four, so that you can shut one down whenever you want to. Otherwise, you use the power mainly for industrial and related load. But use all your off-power, your excess capacity or potentially idle capacity for desalination. That will provide us power. The third thing we need, is other forms of transportation, and that involves railroads. Railways are the key. The Middle East is not a very big area, but we do require railroads if we're going to function efficiently. I understand the French are interested in helping out with that one. We also need urban infrastructure: sewage, sanitation, housing, that sort of thing. And we should then plug into that basic infrastructural development appropriate agro-industrial complexes industry. That is, a combination of agriculture and manufacturing, which should be moved toward high-tech manufacturing. That would give us exactly what we need. If we do that, it will work. I admit, we have to fight over this issue of nuclear power, which is indispensable in my view, but let's get the other things going and then argue about that as we go along. Kissinger Is a Mouth for a Very Evil Crowd Q: Let's go to the next issue. Henry Kissinger has an op-ed. He says that multilateral action on the part of the United Nations no longer works. He says that it worked during the Korean War, but it will not work any more. What is he really talking about here? MR. LAROUCHE: He's talking about bloodshed in the Balkans. He's taking the fact that the United Nations is disgraced and is collapsing, because of its failure in these operations, especially the Balkans, which has made the Security of the United Nations an object of moral contempt in the eyes of many around the world. He's taking that to say: Well, don't do anything about the Balkans. The irony of this is that Kissinger, is tied to the Hollinger Corporation, that is, Lord Carrington and that section of the British royal family and British Intelligence; and Kissinger has been, of course, all his adult life, since the very early 1950s when he went to work for British Intelligence at Harvard, an asset of British intelligence. Kissinger and his crowd were the authors of the bloody bloodshed we have in the Balkans; and he's saying don't meddle. Let the bloodshed wear itself down; let the parties exhaust themselves. Let the Serbs win. He's very clear on this: Let the Serbs win. No matter what they do, they've won the war, let them win. That's Kissinger. He's a very evil fellow. I don't think he's a very courageous fellow; he's got a big mouth, and his mouth is nothing but an aperture for the crowd that has owned him for the past 40-odd years. But nonetheless, it's symptomatic as a mouth of the behavior of the crowd that owns his mouth. They are very evil. [commercial break] The Clinton Administration is Inheriting the Whirlwind Q: Mr. LaRouche, speaking about the Balkans, speaking about Serbia and Bosnia, there was a public letter signed by 100 influentials--Thatcher, Shultz, Jeane Kirkpatrick--telling President Clinton that he has to act in Bosnia. What is the significance of this? What is also the significance of the nine opposition parties in Croatia, which signed on in opposition to what Tudjman is doing in terms of the Owen-Stoltenberg talks? MR. LAROUCHE: That's a very mixed bag, that letter. First of all, many of the people who started the war in the Balkans back in 1989, when they decided to do this kind of thing, are actually signators to this now. The complication is this. First of all, they all are of the opinion which is reflected in part by Henry Kissinger in his op-ed. They were perfectly content to have the Muslims wiped out, and then the Croatians subjugated again in a new onslaught. But they're covering their butt, and they're also doing something else. The Thatcher-Bush New World Disorder of 1989 to approximately the present, has been the greatest piece of folly in the 20th century, a folly of major powers. We had the opportunity, had we followed the guidelines which I indicated as early as 1988, before the imminent collapse of the Wall, as I viewed it at that time, for economic development projects which would have given the world a {durable basis for peace.} What is now happening, as a result of going to the Bush-Thatcher alternative of looting eastern Europe and looting the former Soviet Union through operations like those of George Soros, the ``derivatives king,'' is that we have now created an adversarial relationship of a Russian imperial power which is now very rapidly putting itself together. I would say that the last chance for an easy approach to peace in Europe, came in the period this past year of about the time of the so-called summit between Yeltsin and Clinton in April up until, say, June. The Clinton administration, by backing down, blew it. And so they now are inheriting the whirlwind, so to speak; they are inheriting the effects of the Bush-Thatcher folly. The Thatcher crowd, the Atlanticist crowd, are saying in effect, look, we don't give a damn about the Balkans; we don't care about the Bosnians. Let 'em slaughter 'em. {But}--{but} the United States and the Atlantic Alliance, is losing all credibility in face of a rapid comeback of a Russian imperial military capability. These fellows are not total fools, they know that the Russians really are not ready to start a war with the West at this point. But they see that we've passed the point of virtual no-return; and that down the pike, if things continue in the present direction, particularly with the upcoming financial collapse of the West, that under those circumstances, we have a very credible adversarial relationship emerging between the West and Moscow, a relationship which will become very nasty down the road. Therefore, they're saying the failure to take military action, such as bombing the Serbs in the Balkans, has destroyed the credibility of the Western alliance. We now have to do something, not for the sake of the people in the Balkans, but to regain the credibility of the United States as the {primus inter pares} power of the Atlantic alliance. That's the kind of realistic or cynical attitude which is displayed by that hundred luminaries signing that letter. Of course, numerous among them may be quite honest, quite sincere, and quite right-headed morally individuals who signed it; I'm not denying that. But I know, when you see certain names in there, these guys haven't done anything good for the human race in 40-50 years; and I have seen no sign of their doing it now. [commercial break] Unless the West Adopts My Policies, There Will Be A Showdown Between Moscow and the Western Powers Q: Mr. LaRouche, we have been discussing the former Soviet Union and some of the problems that have been created by the Bush-Thatcher policy. Before we get into this, I would like you to comment on the statement by the nine opposition parties from Croatia, if you'd care to; and also I'd then like to get into, in terms of the former Soviet Union, the issue of Ukraine, this deal that's occurring in terms of the Black Sea Fleet, oil and debt relief in exchange for control of the Black Sea Fleet. Is this an example of the Russian imperial impulse taking over? And what are the chances that Kravchuk will be able to pull it off, from the standpoint of Ukraine? MR. LAROUCHE: First of all, on the Croatian opposition parties. That's real. It comes a bit late. It is the fortunate character of this world of ours (Leibniz called it ``the best of all possible worlds''), that the good embodied within people will respond ultimately to evil by conquering evil with good. We are seeing that in Croatia. As to whether this response of good to evil comes soon enough, that is questionable. But nonetheless, these people are right. They have had it up to the neck and higher with this betrayal, this bloodshed, and they're erupting. That's good. As to Ukraine: What we are seeing in the meetings occuring this weekend in Moscow as part of a week-long process, is the rebuilding of a Moscow empire. What we saw in the case of Ukraine, was the simple capitulation of Kravchuk of Ukraine to massive threats, pressure, and bait from a Moscow force which is coming back, at the same time that anyone in eastern Europe knows the United States will do nothing for them; they have no defense, no aid, no succor in face of a menace from Moscow; and they have no immediate option. All the options have been stripped away from them. So there's a tendency to capitulate. That could be reversed, but we would have to reverse the policies of Washington, and of much of Europe, on these kinds of issues. It is part of this capitulation of Ukraine or Kravchuk to the demands of Russia, giving the nuclear weapons to Russia, giving the fleet to Russia, as payment for the unpaid oil debt; that is simply what it is; but you also have to look at the Caucasus. You have Ciller, the new Prime Minister of Turkey, going to Moscow to meet with an old adversary of mine, Heidar Aliyev, who now is the dictator or the maximum leader of Azerbaijan. And he is one of the wiliest Turks on this planet, a former member of the Politburo; specialty in operations throughout the world over a long period of time, together with Yevgeny Primakov, in places like India. He used to own half the Soviet assets in Delhi and places like that; and other parts of the Middle East. So he's a very powerful intelligence figure who went back to Moscow with Yeltsin to meet with Shevardnadze, the former head of the KGB of Georgia, and with the Prime Minister of Turkey, to negotiate the Caucasus situation; and then Moscow meanwhile issues a threat to Iran to keep its nose out of the conflicts among Turks and Armenians in the Transcaucasus. That's the kind of the world in which we live. Very rapidly we are seeing a Russia which is filled with hatred against the United States because of a sense that the United States betrayed them when the Russians offered their trust--that is, the betrayal by Bush and Thatcher, and the sense of non-responsiveness by Clinton--and this hatred is building up: Okay, we're going to come back, we're going to build a Russian empire again. And that's the direction in which things are going. It can be changed, it can be altered; but we would have to alter the policies of the United States. The Russians are very familiar with my policies. If Moscow thought that my policies were going to be adopted, at this point, in place of the present policies in Washington, then the Russians might stop and think, and other forces in Moscow might come together, and change the direction of things. But pending an adoption of my policies by people in the West such as the United States government, there is not much chance of anything, except a coming showdown between Moscow and Western powers which are shattered by the coming financial collapse. Why We Urgently Need a Muslim-Christian Dialogue Today Q: Mr. LaRouche, I'd like to discuss a call that you issued recently. It affects such areas as the Transcaucasus, the Muslim republics in the former Soviet Union, and of course the Muslim world. You recently called for a Muslim-Christian dialogue. Why do you think this is so important at this point? MR. LAROUCHE: Because there are people in London and elsewhere--there are friends of Kissinger, for example--who wish to provoke the Muslim populations of the world into a state of rage against the non-Muslim powers of the northern part of this hemisphere; and then to use the rage evinced so from the Islamic populations, to tell the populations of Europe and the United States and Russia, that there is a global Islamic threat to civilization; and to launch a kind of crusade against Islam. There are various people who have recognized this, who tried to head it off. Notable, of course, consistently, has been the papacy. The pope's visit to Sudan earlier this year, is an example of the attempt to prevent this kind of religious warfare, which some people in London, and France as well, and elsewhere, would like to stir up. It is important to stop that, because if we have that kind of policy continuing, this threat to have a war with the Islamic populations, and if the brainwashing operation goes ahead and brainwashes most of the American people, as it's tended to do successfully in recent years, then that will do two things. Not only will we have a horror show of global bloodshed; but also, we will have the worst kind of fascist states and governments and forms of society in North America and Western Europe and Russia, under conditions of that kind of warfare. You'll have a total mobilization of totalitarian governments and massive oppression of people in the United States as well as elsewhere, unless that's stopped. What we hope to do--what I would hope to do--is by bringing this dialogue forth, we create a forum, not necessarily a place but a process, a forum, in which these matters can be discussed in an ecumenical way, between people who are predominantly Jewish or Christian and their antecedents in the Northern Hemisphere. [commercial break] Q: Mr. LaRouche, before we get to your recent predictions on impending financial collapse and a two to three-year window before the United States could possibly disintegrate, its economy and institutions, I would like you to finish up on this very interesting discussion on a Muslim-Christian dialogue. MR. LAROUCHE: This idea is not exactly a new one. The fall of Constantinople was arranged by some treasonous Venetians and others, and by the Holy Mountain faction of Mt. Athos in Greece (headed by a guy called Scolarius, later called Patriarch Gennadios, who was made a patriarch by the Ottoman government) from the inside. That betrayal led to the collapse of Christianity in the eastern part of Europe to a large degree, and elsewhere. Immediately following the fall of Constantinople, some people in Europe wanted to have a slaughter, a new crusade against the Turks. Nicolaus of Cusa and his friends, who were the authors of the Council of Florence, this great ecumenical agreement, and others, decided on a different course. They decided on a course, one, of continuing the Council of Florence's (1438-1440) commitment to evangelization of the globe, largely through exploration, such as that done by the Spaniards. Christopher Columbus's trip, including the planning and the people involved in the planning, was actually engineered by this evangelical movement--which spread all over the planet. India, China, as well as the Americas. They also proposed with the Islamic population, a Christian-Muslim dialogue among various religions, notably including Christians, Jews, and Islamic peoples. This was called the peace of faith. A dialogue was written by Nicolaus of Cusa, for a peace of faith, for a rational discussion of natural law policy based on the common considerations of the great monotheistic religions; and that seems to be the correct way to approach this today. There are certain things, the sacredness of individual human life; the sacredness, in that sense, of the family, which conceives and nurtures the young. That institution must be protected from its enemies in society; and in modern times, we have to defend also the idea of the sovereignty of nation-states, and seek cooperation among sovereign nation-states, and no more of this crazy Bush league globaloney, I think, is a fair way of putting it, this globalism which the world is drifing into, which means hell. So that's the reason for doing it, is to simply open up an aperture of dialogue in which we can expose the evil which is being done by globalism. ``The Financial Bubble: Sucking the Blood Out of Our Economy'' Q: Mr. LaRouche, recently, Neue Zuercher Zeitung, the Swiss newspaper, indicated that September could be a month of financial collapse, especially in the United States. You have echoed these kinds of predictions; you have also indicated that in two to three years the United States, unless it changes its poliices, will totally disintegrate; can you give us some more insights into the process that you see unfolding? MR. LAROUCHE: First of all, we have an anomalous situation. The economies of the world have been collapsing. They have been collapsing--you could say, over the long run, the United States economy has been collapsing since about 1970. That is, we have been living on using up our previous improvements in infrastructure: water systems, we see the levees, for example; the recent floods. Power systems; we're running out of power, as our power capacity runs down. Our urban centers are decaying; all of these things. And this has been in progress with us for over 20 years. In Europe, it came a little more slowly, except in Britain, where the collapse probably started in the middle of the 1960s. But continental Europe generally came more slowly. Since about 1978, 1979, with deregulation and the so-called Volcker high-interest rate measures, we have essentially destroyed the basic understructure, not only of infrastructure, that is, water systems, rail systems, power generation, urban sanitation and so forth; but we have also destroyed agriculture, and we have destroyed manufacturing. It's hard to find a legitimate manufacturing company these days. They have all been taken over by corporate raiders who are simply looting them, like some kind of parasite sucking the juice out of its victim. Like some grasshopper caught in the spider's web, and the spider comes and sucks its juices every now and then, until the thing dies; and that's what's happening to our industries as these big raiders, the hostile takeovers, the Michael Milkens and the Kravises and so forth, have done their work. But at the same time, we have a purely financial bubble, the biggest bubble in history; the biggest John Law bubble in all history, based around options and mutual funds and things of that sort. In the past three years, our banking system in the United States is no longer a real banking system. It is mainly a sucked-out husk which is used for the conveying of Federal Reserve printing press money through places like Citibank, to feed this big derivatives financial bubble. The financial bubble is sucking the blood out of our economy in every direction; it's taking the last remains of juice. It is the main cause of our federal indebtedness, contrary to those idiots in Washington who think that firing federal employess is going to help balance the budget; they're crazy. It won't do any good at all. Well, we've come to the point that, with the juice almost gone out of the real economy, nothing for the parasite to suck on, more or less, the financial bubble is about to pop. Exacly when it will pop, is difficult to say, in terms of exact dates; because it's the nature of a bubble. It takes a big prick to cause a bubble to pop. But we're coming up to that point of extreme instability, in which any slight disturbance could increasingly so set off this bubble. When it collapses, we're talking about a collapse of a better part of $10-12 trillion, which is tied up in purely financial speculation, which has a turnover of between $300 and $350 trillion a year. For example. Two-thirds of the U.S. currency in circulation, is circulating outside the United States. That's mostly circulating in terms of this bubble. When that collapses, Wall Street will go, everything will go; and all of these crazy Yuppie dreams, which have seduced this nation for the past 10 years or so--they're all gone. So that's where we're standing on that. So the Neue Zuercher Zeitung has been repeatedly putting up the warning flags, warning that we're about to have a financial collapse. And no one with any brains, can argue with that. We're on the brink of a financial collapse; the only question is on what day the bubble will burst. Once it bursts, there's no stopping it. We're finished. Our financial system in its present form, the IMF system in its present form, is finished forever. At the same time, the collapse of infrastructure, the collapse of agriculture, the collapse of high-skilled employment, in the United States, means that we're getting to the point where these budget-cutting nonsenses, that is, Phil Gramm and idiots like him; this kind of nonsense of neglect and folly, and resistance to any stimulus program to get the economy moving again, to get more skilled jobs--not hamburger-flipping jobs, but real jobs--created, along with the collapse of education under the influence of this lunacy called OBE or Core curriculum. We're going to have unemployables produced by the school system. All of this means, that we're getting to the point where, within one or two more cycles of budget balancing or budgetary process in Washington, we're going to see that the state and local government, and parts of the federal government programs, are going to simply be shut down, because there's no money, no tax revenue base, to support them. If you raise taxes, you'll simply collapse the economy. If you don't raise taxes, you'll collapse the economy. So we have come to the point that the present accepted wisdom of the past 10-15 years in Washington, no longer works; and if we continue to try to apply these budget-balancing reforms; if we try to solve the problem by firing more government employees instead of attending to business, as we should, we are going to find that about three years from now, at least in a worst-case scenario (not the absolute worse, but a probable one), the government of the United States is starting to disintegrate, on the local, state and federal level. And once that happens, in our present ideological frame of reference, then nothing will stop it. This nation will be finished. So we have, in the immediate year ahead, this fall, the last chance to begin to turn this around, to save our nation--and to save much of the world. ``The Gore-Clinton Proposal Is Just Cosmetics'' Q: We have about 2 minutes left, Mr. LaRouche, and I'd like you to comment on the recent Gore-Clinton proposal for reducing federal jobs by 25,000 jobs over the next five years. It's supposedly a government reorganization plan. I know in the past, in 1984, you had a whole program for government reorganization. How does this compare to yours? MR. LAROUCHE: It's just cosmetics. They're under tremendous pressure. Clinton has not had a single success so far. He talks about the budgetary bill he got through. That was no success, the Congress and he both had to have a bill. No matter what was in it, they had to pass it, so that the federal government would be manageable. Without that budget, you get to the point where the U.S. government starts to run on chits, because by law it doesn't have the budgetary authority to continue operation. So they {had} to get a budget through--no matter what was in it. That was no success. Clinton's earlier efforts to get some kind of stimulus program going, even the most modest kind, was shot down. His health plan is in deep trouble. NAFTA is a disaster; and in Washington, they're scrambling. They're trying to find some token they can throw out there, which, for its short-term advertising and public relations effect, will restore some credibility of motion to the administration. They're trying to get some momentum going from some place; and so far, they have failed to do it. This is just a game, it doesn't really mean anything at all, it just contributes to the overall disaster, it's just more sliding down a greased slope toward the precipice. That's all it amounts to. One shouldn't get too excited about it, maybe a little bit disgusted, but otherwise, not too excited. Q: Thank you very much, Mr. LaRouche. We will see you next week. This is ``{EIR} Talks.'' I'm Mel Klenetsky. If you would like to send in questions to Mr. LaRouche, address them to ``{EIR} Talks,'' c/o EIR News Service, Inc., Attention: Mel Klenetsky, P.O. Box 17390, Washington, D.C., 20041-0390. - 30 - ---- John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com
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