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From: tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: What is trolling?
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:30:56 GMT
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	I see a lot of dubbing of "troller" or "trolling" out here. What
does that mean? 
	Hold it! Don't just post something and say 'Heres an example'.
You have to post the example and then show that it is trolling.

From tm@pacificnet.net Fri May 31 17:27:13 PDT 1996
Article: 40340 of alt.revisionism
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From: tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Re: What is trolling?
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:58:31 GMT
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <31ada2d8.842604@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
>>				
>>	I see a lot of dubbing of "troller" or "trolling" out here. What
>>does that mean? 
>>	Hold it! Don't just post something and say 'Heres an example'.
>>You have to post the example and then show that it is trolling.

	Okay, heres McVay's answer to the question; What is trolling?	

>I am not surprised that you do not understand, given your
>inability to use the English language properly, brush your
>teeth, enjoy normal sex, or understand something if you _do_
>manage to read it. You are simply too stupid to deal with it.
>
>There. See if you have brains enough to figure it out, Morin.
>(Somehow, I doubt it.)

	Moran wonders if McVay stamped his foot down when typing the
sentence, "There."
	He doubts if Moran can figure out his response. He's got that
right.
	He says Moran can't brush his teeth or have "normal" sex. Now how
would he know? He probably figured it out the same way he figures out
anything else, by what he wants to believe.  

From tm@pacificnet.net Sun Jun  2 10:21:10 PDT 1996
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From: tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Re: What is trolling?
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dmittleman@cmi.arizona.edu (Danny) wrote:

>In article <4omf59$53p@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) writes...
>>kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>> 
>>>In article <31ada2d8.842604@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
>>>>				
>>>>	I see a lot of dubbing of "troller" or "trolling" out here. What
>>>>does that mean? 
>>>>	Hold it! Don't just post something and say 'Heres an example'.
>>>>You have to post the example and then show that it is trolling.
>> 
>>>I am not surprised that you do not understand, given your
>>>inability to use the English language properly, brush your
>>>teeth, enjoy normal sex, or understand something if you _do_
>>>manage to read it. You are simply too stupid to deal with it.
>> 
>>>There. See if you have brains enough to figure it out, Morin.
>>>(Somehow, I doubt it.)
>> 
>>	The claim of "trolling" is well understood to be a perjorative
>>and nothing more.
>
>    Not really.  Notice that it is directed in a.r for the most part only
>    at Matt Giwer.  Other denier and anti-semitic correspondents have
>    rarely been called trolls.  This is because Giwer's MO differs from
>    that of the other deniers and anti-semites.
>
>    Trolling on usenet derives from the sense of trolling while fishing. 
>    It takes the form of putting one's written "line" in the water using
>    inflamatory material as "bait" and seeing what bites.
>
>    There is discussion of trolling in appropriate FAQs available in
>    news.announce.newusers.  It is a matter of observation and
>    extrapolation to conclude that Giwer's behavior here amounts to
>    trolling.

	People troll, fish bite. 
>
>                         daniel david mittleman 
>===========================================================================
>                     Quoth the H*ber: "Never! More!"


From tm@pacificnet.net Mon Jun  3 19:04:20 PDT 1996
Article: 40911 of alt.revisionism
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From: tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Re: What is trolling?
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 13:45:05 GMT
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dmittleman@cmi.arizona.edu (Danny) wrote:

>In article <31aeecf5.303900@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes...
>>kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>> 
>>>In article <31ada2d8.842604@news.pacificnet.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
>>>>				
>>>>	I see a lot of dubbing of "troller" or "trolling" out here. What
>>>>does that mean? 
>>>>	Hold it! Don't just post something and say 'Heres an example'.
>>>>You have to post the example and then show that it is trolling.
>> 
>>	Okay, heres McVay's answer to the question; What is trolling?	
>> 
>>>I am not surprised that you do not understand, given your
>>>inability to use the English language properly, brush your
>>>teeth, enjoy normal sex, or understand something if you _do_
>>>manage to read it. You are simply too stupid to deal with it.
>>>
>>>There. See if you have brains enough to figure it out, Morin.
>>>(Somehow, I doubt it.)
>> 
>>	Moran wonders if McVay stamped his foot down when typing the
>>sentence, "There."
>>	He doubts if Moran can figure out his response. He's got that
>>right.
>>	He says Moran can't brush his teeth or have "normal" sex. Now how
>>would he know? He probably figured it out the same way he figures out
>>anything else, by what he wants to believe.  
>
>    No.  McVay was just trolling.  Caught a big one too!

	You have any further details to support your incredibly ignorant
statement?
	Here we have McVay making things up about someone's personal life
and you endorse him. This is a school yard tactic. Evidentally you
can't control yourselves. 
	Now maybe you can support McVay's little remark. Moran ask McVay,
"Now how would he know?". Now, how would Mittleman know? Go for it. 
	It seems a increased desperation is manifesting. Maybe you should
go and show this to your collegues and see what they have to say about
it. Why don't you come back and tell how your collegues would support
you.
	If McVay was trolling, the only thing he snagged was a rock which
pulled him over board, and you jumped in to save him, only to get
entangled in his line.



From tm@pacificnet.net Mon Jul 15 21:10:20 PDT 1996
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From: tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: McVay, down by the school yard
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                        [repost]
	
	Moran had posted recently "What is "trolling"? 	
			
>	I see a lot of dubbing of "troller" or "trolling" out here. What
>does that mean? 
>	Hold it! Don't just post something and say 'Heres an example'.
>You have to post the example and then show that it is trolling.

	Ken McVay responded:


"I am not surprised that you do not understand, given your
inability to use the English language properly, brush your
teeth, enjoy normal sex, or understand something if you _do_
manage to read it. You are simply too stupid to deal with it.

There. See if you have brains enough to figure it out, Morin.
(Somehow, I doubt it.)"


From tm@pacificnet.net Sun Sep  1 13:42:22 PDT 1996
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From: tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: McVay, down by the school yard
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                        [repost]
	
	Moran had posted recently "What is "trolling"? 	
			
>	I see a lot of dubbing of "troller" or "trolling" out here. What
>does that mean? 
>	Hold it! Don't just post something and say 'Heres an example'.
>You have to post the example and then show that it is trolling.

	Ken McVay responded:

"I am not surprised that you do not understand, given your
inability to use the English language properly, brush your
teeth, enjoy normal sex, or understand something if you _do_
manage to read it. You are simply too stupid to deal with it.

There. See if you have brains enough to figure it out, Morin.
(Somehow, I doubt it.)"

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