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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Re: World Trade Center / Pentagon disaster - $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$
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> Category 15,  Topic 4
> Message 33        Fri Mar 13, 1992
> G.RAVEN                      at 03:02 EST
> 
>My only concern is in going after the facts. As such, I am not 
>interested in defending Adolf Hitler to my dying breath. I will say,
>however, that he was a great man ... certainly greater than
>Churchill and FDR put together, and possibly the greatest leader of 
>our century, if not longer. This is not to say that he was perfect, 
>but he about the best thing that could have happened to Germany.
>
>
>
>
>-Danny Keren.


As far as I know Raven has written many articles and thousands of
pages yet the only thing the Holocaust community can come up with time
and agian is the above. You know, like trying to chew the prive down
on a car by 50% by pointing to a little teeny weeny scratch down below
a door.

And then again maybe Mr.Raven's statement isn't a scratch.

As far as the "great" used by Mr.Raven, look it up in the dictionary.
As for what kind of "great", we have two Hitlers. One Hitler would be
the one the Jews tell us about with their Holocaust lie and then there
is the real Hitler.


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Millions of Jews killed in WTC / Pentagon Holocaust
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http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/09/12/LatestNews/LatestNews.34656.html

(08:15 - Wed) Thousands of Israelis missing near WTC, Pentagon

The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of
4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack. 

The list is made up of people who have not yet made contact with
friends or family, Army Radio reported. 

Telephone connections between Israel and the New York City and
Washington, D.C. areas has been sporadic and unreliable since the
multiple attacks yesterday. 

Ten thousand people are estimated to have been killed in the New York
attacks and another 800 in Washington. 

Several hundred also went down with the hijacked planes. 




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On 16 Sep 2001 07:34:44 GMT, nicegoy@aol.com (Nicegoy) wrote:

>So far you and Philthy have failed miserably.... you are like a pair of fox
>terriers barking at a passing semi-trailer.

Excellent analogy.


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Re: Millions of Jews killed in WTC / Pentagon Holocaust
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>The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of
>4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade
>Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack. 
>
>The list is made up of people who have not yet made contact with
>friends or family, Army Radio reported. 


A "list" hasn't been made up yet?  Shouldn't be a problem since they
didn't have any problem making up three million (3,000,000) names for
the Yad Vashim list of Holocaust dead.

This could cost the U.S. billions more. After all they demanded 30
billion (30,000,000,000) from the U.S. for damages they got during the
Gulf War.


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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"Bush sure to win next election".

That doesn't refer to Junior. That was said time and again during the
Gulf War crime committed by his daddy. 


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Islamic attack brings Hollywood to its knees
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Now one of the results of the attack on the World Trade Center and the
Pentagon is the cancellation of a number of those Hollywood mayhem
movies. Like the one supposed to come out with Arnold Schwartzenegger,
'Collateral Damage'. 

Now that's an interesting thing. Here we have these movies that have
been terrorizing the American culture for years now being deemed
inappropriate as a result of the Islamic attack. It's especially
ironic since the Hollywood ethic is more or less directed by Jews.

You can bet we won't be seeing Arabs portrayed as the villinous arch
devil anymore either as has been the case in perhaps scores of movies.


The Jews are going to have to tread lightly with their usual intrigues
of 'Our enemies are your enemies America'.  


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Re: Millions of Jews killed in WTC / Pentagon Holocaust
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Moran exposed (Part Gehrig left out included):
>(08:15 - Wed) Thousands of Israelis missing near WTC, Pentagon
>
>The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of
>4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade
>Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack. 
>
>The list is made up of people who have not yet made contact with
>friends or family, Army Radio reported. 
>
>Telephone connections between Israel and the New York City and
>Washington, D.C. areas has been sporadic and unreliable since the
>multiple attacks yesterday. 
>
>Ten thousand people are estimated to have been killed in the New York
>attacks and another 800 in Washington. 
>
>Several hundred also went down with the hijacked planes. 

Moran commented:
>>>A "list" hasn't been made up yet?  Shouldn't be a problem since they
>>>didn't have any problem making up three million (3,000,000) names for
>>>the Yad Vashim list of Holocaust dead.
>>>
>>>This could cost the U.S. billions more. After all they demanded 30
>>>billion (30,000,000,000) from the U.S. for damages they got during the
>>>Gulf War.

Debunks gagged:
>> 4,000, huh?

Gehrig tries:
>Of course, Tom fails to mention that this was in the initial hours
>of the crisis, and that the Jerusalem Post announced afterward that
>most of them had been accounted for. Tom sorta left the date
>off -- wonder why?

Actually the record shows there is a date involved with the past job.
And then too the record doesn't have anything about "this was in the
initial hours of the crisis" and thus Moran didn't "fails to mention"
anything. 



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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Arabic intrigues to bring down the stock market
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According to one of those trembling commentators on FOX news this
morning and the acquiescence of a guest U.S. general if the stock
market goes down it'll be because of Arab intrigues to 'sell short'
large blocks of stock to undermine it all.  


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The Zionist sales force (U.S. TV commentators) have a theme that they
keep playing over and over again. Just today they have gotten words
>from Louis Farrakhan and Muhammed Ali telling us it wasn't a Islamic
thing. Good work. Now all we have to do is wonder whether U.S. support
and enforcement of Zionist interests is a Christian thing. 


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: WTC - Reserves, tanks, jets, naval ships, even AIRCRAFT CARRIERS
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The MIGHTY United States.

We call up the reserves, get out the tanks, fire up the military jets,
send out the naval fleet, even AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.

And for what? One man - Usama bin Laden.




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According to some wimpy spineless commentator on FOX NEWS today
Taliban agents in Europe sold large blocks of stock short and caused
the massive drop in the stock market yesterday.

He said he had heard it someplace and then went off on a hysterical
condemnation. 

When it comes to groveling before the Wicked Witch there seems no
bottom to how low goyim America will go.


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Mathews oinks:
>LOL!
>
>When it comes to stupidity, Tom Moran takes the cake.
>
>The short selling is being investigated by the CIA,  in markets in Germany,
>Japan, and the US.

Regardless of that and the remainder of Mathews nonsense the initial
post by Moran only relayed what the diarrhoeic FOX NEWS had. 


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Moran:
>> The MIGHTY United States.
>>
>> We call up the reserves, get out the tanks, fire up the military jets,
>> send out the naval fleet, even AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.
>>
>> And for what? One man - Usama bin Laden.

Mddleman:
>Actually, it's his whole terrorist network and the terrorist networks of
>other.


Nope, it's going after Usama bin Laden. That's what it's all about at
this stage. Going to Afghanistan and getting him.


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>LOL!
>
>When it comes to stupidity, Tom Moran takes the cake.
>
>The short selling is being investigated by the CIA,  in markets in Germany,
>Japan, and the US.
>
>The short selling wouldn't have caused the sell off, but merely profited from
>it.
>
>The investigation involves large blocks of stocks sold _prior_ to Tuesday's
>bombing. Selling short, Tommy, involves borrowing stocks from sellers with the
>promise of returning the equal number of shares. The stock is then sold for the
>going price on the expectation that the stock in question is going to drop in
>price very soon, at which time it can be purchased at a much lower price,
>returned to the lender, with the difference in price pocketed by the short
>seller as profit.
>
>Well, if you happen to know that the worldwide markets are going to suffer a
>cataclysmic shock and thereby drop substantially you can make a short term
>killing in the market. Especially spectacular profits could be earned if you
>knew particulars of what was going to cause the shock.
>
>Specifically, the short selling of stocks in airline and insurance companies is
>being investigated in the hopes it might lead to people involved in the
>terrorist attack.
>
>No wonder Tommy is such a conspiracy nut. He lives in a world which long ago
>became far too complex for him to understand!


The actual reason the stock market crashed yesterday is because
Israel's enemies put a big hole in New York. The last time the market
dropped more than 500 points in one day was the day after the news
about Milken and Boesky.   


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THE REAL REASON why the twin towers of the World Trade Center
collapsed is that the incredible heat involved weakened the metal to
such a degree that it caused the immediate area to become prone to the
weight of the floors above to collapse and then with that force it
sent the rest down vertical domino like.  That's why the second
building that was hit went down first. The first tower was hit more
towards the top with only some 20 floors of weight bearing down and
the second tower was hit lower with some 40 or so floors of weight
bearing down. Adding to the inability for the structure to withstand
the forces of gravity would be the planes would have to have taken out
some of the interior and exterior support structure on impact. The one
plane went in one side of the South Tower and out the other.

==============================================================

Here's just another trashy piece of post disaster crap. Critique at
the end.

http://www.abqjournal.com/aqvan09-11-01.htm

Albuquerque Journal

Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says 
    
By Olivier Uyttebrouck 
Journal Staff Writer 


( Critical comments between [ ].

    "Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest
that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New
Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday."

[ We should think the expert wouldn't be talking about any pyrotechnic
secondary explosions but percussion types, like from dynamite or
plastic explosives. Do the images show such a thing? Percussion
explosives can be used to put out fires, such as those with oil well
fires. Do we see anything in the fire ball or does the expert say it
was someplace else? ]

    '"The collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a
chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van
Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining
and Technology. 

[ See 'THE REAL REASON' at top. Additionally, demolition experts set
charges at many different places on many different floors which are
wired to a computer so that certain charges go off at specific times.
The times are very close to each other and the intent is set them so
the floors will drop against each other and bring the building
straight down. In other words gravity is what does the job and real
experts plan the whole thing to so that one part of the building is
prone to gravity at a different time than another part. The idea is to
set the floors of a building down ala 'pancake' stacking. ]    

    '"My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes
hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside
the buildings that caused the towers to collapse,"' Romero said." 

[ Should anyone believe we can see evidence of it in the videos or
would it be right to have someone show us a presentation with them
indicating the characteristics in the videos that would indicate the
alleged secondary explosions? ]  

    "Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research
and Testing Center at Tech, ...."

    Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national
television broadcasts. 

    Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of
controlled implosions used to demolish old structures. 

[ Will we ever see Romero or anyone else like the government
presenting Romero's case?  No.]

    "It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an
event like that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington,
D.C." 

[ Wow, Romero says it wasn't the impact of the planes that signaled
the explosives to go off. He can't see something like the real thing
"triggering an event like that"?  Some 30,000 pounds of fuel
detonating in an enclosed structure. The fires raged for a number of
minutes before the building collapsed. When does Romero say the
secondary explosions went off? He doesn't. Where were they set? He
doesn't say. ] 

    "Romero said he and another Tech administrator were on a
Washington-area subway when an airplane struck the Pentagon. 

    He said he and Denny Peterson, vice president for administration
and finance, were en route to an office building near the Pentagon to
discuss defense-funded research programs at Tech."

[ Could make it look like Romero is such and expert expert that his
services are sought after by the Defense Department. Telling us that
Romero was on his way to a building "near" the Pentagon would be
intended to give his claims some authority and imply that he was
involved with research with the Pentagon.] 

    '"If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations
could have been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said."

    "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed
in strategic points,"' Romero said. The explosives likely would have
been put in more than two points in each of the towers, he said."'

[ How "small"?  What, 10 pounds, 100 pounds, what?  "More than two"?
What three, ten, twenty?  He doesn't say. It would be very difficult
for him to show the world that the alleged explosives would be just
"more than two" and "small". Where the hell were these charges anyway?
Right where the impact points were or on ground level, where? The
article doesn't say.  

    "The detonation of bombs within the towers is consistent with a
common terrorist strategy, Romero said."

[ "Common strategy" for terrorist to put explosives in the buildings?
Nope. The record shows that they set them off ala, "car bomb" on the
outside. This is a good time to clarify who is involved here with this
nonsense. We have the expert of course, and then we have the author of
the article Olivier Uyttebrouck, and the Albequerque Journal. ] 

    '"One of the things terrorist events are noted for is a
diversionary attack and secondary device,"' Romero said."

[ The airplanes were really only a "diversionary attack"? Who does he
think he is talking to? Children? Could he or the members of the
Albuquerque Journal refer us over to where we could find information
about these common "diversionary"/"secondary" tricks he says
terrorists are "noted" for? ] 

    "Attackers detonate an initial, diversionary explosion that
attracts emergency personnel to the scene, then detonate a second
explosion, he said."

[ So he's saying these secondary explosions were set to go off after
enough time for rescue workers to arrive? He says the intent was to
really get the firemen and police officers? He says even though the
building could hold some 50,000 people the intent would be to get a
few more? 

How much time was it between the impact of the planes and these
alleged secondary explosions? We have it the charges were set to go
off some time after the impacts with the intent to bring the buildings
down. Romero, the writer and the Journal have a real problem here. 

If Romero says the charges were in the impact areas he would have to
acknowledge that the detonating device would have to have been
insulated against fires. They would have to be some place where the
incoming plane wouldn't knock them out of the building. They would
have to have been solid enough to withstand an impact. He would have
to say the charges were planted on two different floor levels of the
buildings since the planes hit at different levels. They would have to
say the 'pilots' would have known what floor in each building and
intentionally aimed for them.

On the other hand, if Romero says the charges were set to go off
someplace else than the impact zone then we would think that just
"more than two", "small" charges would have brought it down? 

Would the charges have been intended to undermine the structures or to
help them down from above? ]

    "Romero said that if his scenario is correct, the diversionary
attack would have been the collision of the planes into the towers."

[ Okay, again, the planes were only "diversionary". Gee.]

    Tech President Dan Lopez said Tuesday that Tech had not been asked
to take part in the investigation into the attacks. Tech often assists
in forensic investigations into terrorist attacks, often by setting
off similar explosions and studying the effects."

[ No endorsement of Romero's nonsense?

How did the Albuquerque Journal get hold of this? Did Romero himself
volunteer it or did someone(s) direct the Journal or its reporter to
Romero?

What is the propaganda value of this nonsense if we view it as that?

It would tell us the Twin Towers couldn't have been brought down just
by a single plane to each one. That the buildings weren't so weak in
design and structure that a single airplane could do it. 

It would tend to add to the readers confusion about the whole thing
and keep them from getting a clear picture of what really happened and
what didn't.   


    



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"Danny"  pops into demonstrate something:

>Hi Zeyde,
>
>It's been years since I've been in a.r, but I stopped in today to see what
>is going on.  I see that you are still here after, what?, eight years, nine
>years, spouting off drivel you don't understand in between your mindless
>re-posts of other people's propaganda.
>
>Some things don't change much, do they Zeyde?
>
>And you got this one about selling stocks short kinda wrong, but I see a few
>other people -- who seem to have you figured out -- have already corrected
>you on it.  And as usual, you just slipped away and changed the subject...
>
>By the way, do your current antagonists know about your Jewish family ties,
>Zeyde?  Or do you keep all the gossip about your grandkids to yourself these
>days?  You oughta tell them about your grandkids, Zeyde, it will give them a
>good laugh.
>
>Happy posting, Zeyde!


Hi Mr.Mittleman, long time no smell. Anyway, thanks for demonstrating
why you haven't hung on. 


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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 03:38:36 GMT, "SW"  wrote:

>Yeah, I'm just shocked that Arab countries who have tried to eliminate
>Israel since 1948 would conspire against her.  Bellingoebbels, sometimes I
>think you just fell off the turnip truck.


Did the Jews go to the Arabs or did the Arabs go to the Jews?


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><ADL Says Americans Must Remain United, Reject Group Hatred in Aftermath of 
>Terrorist Attacks
>
>New York, NY, September 14, 2001 ...


Is that just plain diarrhea? You bet. Take a look at their website and
see the demonization. Also this ADL has a documented history of
placing quarter, half and full page ads in newspapers telling us what
scum bags the Arabs are. Reeking diarrhea.


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>Los Angeles Times, Sept. 14, 2001
>
>Events Will Alter Dynamics in Mideast
>
>....
>Israeli officials have concluded that they can now act as forcefully
>as they wish in crushing the armed Palestinian uprising, without
>having to worry about international calls for restraint. ...
>...
>Gissin said Israeli officials were pleased that they were able to
>launch their deepest and deadliest incursions yet into Palestinian
>territory ...


Mathews oinks:
>The sentence Li'l Tommy left out has been restored. Tommy didn't want to remind
>people that Israel is responding to violence perpetrated against them.

Mathews doesn't think or would have us not consider, " incursions ...
into Palestinian territory ..."?  Okay, now there's an example of high
Talmudism. 


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: World Trade Center / Pentagon disaster - $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$
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The U.S. Mideast policy inspired attack on the World Trade Center and
Pentagon could cost $,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$.

So far designated amounts of money mentioned are -
------------------------------------------------

40 billion from the Federal government

8 billion slated by the state of New York

25 billion in insurance loses

30 billion to shore up the stock market


Theoretical amounts
-------------------

500 billion to a trillion in the impending Stock market collapse

Gulf "War" cost us 100 billion

New billions for the military build up

100 to 500 billion for loss of business

Yup, we're probably looking at at least a trillion dollars of losses
due to the U.S. inspired attack on the World Trade Center and
Pentagon.

The government elected and officials kneel before the Wicked Witch,
they tell the military to do the hag's bidding and the media members
tell us how it's all sweet tasting honey. Ah yes, THE bIG THREE,
nothing more than individual persons willing to do anything to hold
onto their individual positions.  It doesn't take much to get THE bIG
THREE down on their knees.   


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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Subject: Osama bin Laden - A message to the American people
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ABC reporter John Miller recounts his May 1998 hour-long interview
with Osama bin Laden at his camp on a mountaintop in southern
Afghanistan.  
 
Excerpted from Miller's article published in Esquire, February 1, 1999

   
 
"... 

The American imposes himself on everyone. Americans accuse our
children in Palestine of being terrorists--those children, who have no
weapons and have not even reached maturity. At the same time,
Americans defend a country, the state of the Jews, that has a policy
to destroy the future of these children. 

..."


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Los Angeles Times, Sept. 14, 2001

Events Will Alter Dynamics in Mideast

....

Israeli officials have concluded that they can now act as forcefully
as they wish in crushing the armed Palestinian uprising, without
having to worry about international calls for restraint. ...

...

Gissin said Israeli officials were pleased that they were able to
launch their deepest and deadliest incursions yet into Palestinian
territory ...



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On September 15, 2001 we could find the funeral of Barbara Olsen,
"frequent political commentator on television" on some 3 or 4
channels. May she rest in peace but we don't have to think her death
was any more of a significance than all the rest.

In the early stages of TV coverage of the disaster on September 11th
we were told time and again about some Hollywood producer who was on
one of the planes out of Boston.

Emulating a TV "political commentator"?  Would that be like putting up
a Statue of Stalin?

A Hollywood producer? Should we get think a little sideways about
that?





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Gehrig squeaks:
>Everybody to your shelters! Joe-Joe thinks the apocalypse is coming.

David Gehrig - Never nothing more than peanut gallery. 


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Some five thousand people lost their lives. Personally, if I had to
choose my druthers over who to emulate the most it would be those
hundreds of police officers and firemen who lost their lives rushing
into the scene as the rest fled. 



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Subject: Re: WTC - Cell phone calls from the airplanes
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>Sorry Tom,..Yep. Cell Phones are used believe it or not by some pilots on
>approach to ATS centres when vhf has failed. As to propagation, there is an old
>saying in Radio: the three most important things when using anything above HF
>is height, height and height.

>Jason James


You say "believe it or not" pilots use cell phones to get them into
landing areas? Nope, don't believe it. Height is of great value when
using UHF or VHF. In fact most commercial and government radio
propagation (Police for instance) use mostly UHF and VHF frequencies
and is done through "repeaters" which are located on elevations such
as mountains, and where no mountains, like in Florida, towers. "Line
of sight" can be an important factor for getting into those relay
systems. 

For low Watt cell phones we mostly need modules scattered around near
the surface thus making it difficult to receive a recognition from a
service. The double whammy, too hard to get out and too hard to get
in. 

Airplanes made of metal are great attenuators (absorbers of radio
frequencies).

Even in a high cell area like L.A. making a connection to a service is
almost impossible until we get real close to the ground. I know, I did
a test yesterday flying in from Newark Airport and my phone didn't
show a connection until we were actually touching down.

Yeah, yeah, Moran knows you would try to resort to saying turning a
cell phone would interfere with the planes radio contact but it
doesn't, or else they wouldn't be allowed in airports. In fact people
were up and making phone calls on their toys before the doors were
even opened. 




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Charles Don Hall tries out:
>Now, suppose that at some point in the future, Nizkor gets taken over by the 
>Forces of Evil. Then you'll have a valid reason to call for a boycott, but 
>you won't get anyone to pay attention to you.

nIZKOr is already taken over by the forces of evil. The wittle demon
mCvAY.


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So far it looks like some 200,000 people are being laid off from their
jobs as a result of the attack by Israel's enemies on the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon.

200,000 times say $200 a week in unemployment funds = $40,000,000,000
a week in benefits.

$40,000,000,000 a week times 26 weeks = $1,040,000,000,000 for just
the half year.  

Could it be that millions of U.S. citizens could be losing their jobs
by the time the ripples thin out?

And what about any health benefits that these people may have had with
their jobs?  What about their home payments or rents? 

The price for aiding and abetting the Jewish state is going to be paid
in many ways by many. 


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From: trm@pacificnet.net (tom moran)
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mR. mCvAY bellows:
>Thank you so much, Mr. Moran. I've been putting a presentation
>together which illustrates the intimate link between Holocaust deniers
>and rabid Judeophobes, i.e. people like you. This one's a keeper, and
>demonstrates that deniers are, in reality, vitriolic racists with an
>obscene political agenda.
>
>I appreciate your assistance, and will feature your screed at the
>National Metropolis Conference scheduled for Ottawa next month. The
>conference is sponsored by Justice Canada and the Ministry of
>Multiculturalism, and I am certain your comments will underscore my
>point.

mR. mCvAY, I would appreciate it if you duplicate the whole thing in
bold letters on a display board and put my e-mail address at the
bottom so people could get in touch with me if they want more examples
of my "vitriolic" works.

Thanks,
Tom Moran

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