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From dbtgthomas@aol.com Mon May 22 05:05:22 PDT 1995
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From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas)
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Subject: Re: Human Soap
Date: 19 May 1995 17:16:35 -0400
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Thanks for the constructive input, Josh.  Perhaps Amherst promotes
civility.

As regards credibility, I am reminded very much of the opening scenes in
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.  Paul Newman and a malevolent giant
(Ted ?) are about to fight with Bowie knives.  Newman suggests that they
go over the rules first, and his astonished opponent replies, "Rules!?  In
a knife fight???"  It is with that same degree of incredulity that I
respond to you by saying, "Credibility!?  In a name-calling contest???"

The use of the term credibility presupposes a concern for truth and facts.
 That simply does not exist here.  This forum consists of competing
cliques and free-lance loners each pushing their own version of the truth
with a near paranoid aversion to considering anything that might
contradict same.

I would also suggest that there is a significant difference in the onerous
index of the two statements you compare.  If someone says to me, "Well,
you're just a xxxx", filling in that blank with any ethnic/gender/racial
word whicha applies to me, I'd look at it as a laughably lame attempt at
insult.  I am obviously not insulted by what I am (hope that's obvious),
and so could only take offense at the use of the word "just", but that
would be stretching myself to take offense at something deicedly less than
lukewarm.  On the other hand, "You're sub-human anyway so fuck you"
carries a significant potential for offense at any time in any culture
with any person.  Aside from degree, I tend to poke at  those who do this
sort of thing constantly, and those who instigate it or use it as a
regular conversational tool (or more correctly, as a tool to derail
conversation).  This is what has produced what you perceive as a
philosophical polarization.

Sorry I missed the Benjamin Johnson post to you, but even when my visits
were frequent I never read more than 5% or 10% of the posts.

My "code of eternal love" I presume refers to the ancient Buddhist
sentiment I put in the quote box some time ago.  It doesn't show when I
read and send messages and I tend to forget it's there until it rankles
someone and reminds me of the perversity of human nature which can find
something disgusting in a statement that simple and that good.  Ah well,
it keeps things interesting, doesn't it?  

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"For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by
love-this is the eternal law." - The Pali Canon 1:5


From dbtgthomas@aol.com Sun May 28 10:01:41 PDT 1995
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From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas)
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Subject: Re: soap and corpses
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Concentrate, Harry.  You can do it.

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"For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by
love-this is the eternal law." - The Pali Canon 1:5


From bzs@world.std.com Sun May 28 10:01:48 PDT 1995
Article: 21633 of alt.revisionism
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From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas)	[quoted in full]
>Concentrate, Harry.  You can do it.


Mr Thomas once again enlightens us all with his deep and insightful
analysis.

>"For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by
>love-this is the eternal law." - The Pali Canon 1:5

	"This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you -- I'm
	only doing this cuz I love you"

		-your parents

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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