Archive/File: people/h/hunt.bob hunt.0795 From bzs@world.std.com Tue Jul 4 06:57:23 PDT 1995 Article: 23065 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Subject: Re: Bashing babies' heads In-Reply-To: dbtgthomas@aol.com's message of 30 Jun 1995 19:41:37 -0400 Message-ID:Sender: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Organization: The World References: <3t223h$2kk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 1995 02:57:45 GMT Lines: 77 From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas) >># Anyone want to comment on the equally bizarre corollary to this story, >># the one about throwing babies in the air and catching them on >># bayonets? (From the Demjanjuk trial and other "accounts".) >> >>Is this also "physically impossible"? What the hell is your point? > >Get yourself a rifle, tie a knife to its barrel end and have a friend >throw a 10 to 20 pound watermelon in the air for you to catch on the >knife. etc... I'm sure this is all fascinating but it's a rather strange way to go about historical analysis. Danny Keren quoted some trial testimony. You find some interpretation of it implausible. Of course, your interpretation is conveniently focused on supporting what you want to find implausible. Suddenly "catch" is less like "oops, I caught my sweater on that nail" and becomes an image of a parlor game. I don't know which it is. I don't have to stretch the above testimony very far to imagine what it's trying to describe. I don't come up with images of parlor games, just brutal bastards tossing a baby in the air and another poking at it with his bayonet as it goes by, perhaps thinking he's being very clever. What next, do you think maybe they were giving out prizes? Cigars perhaps? That this was a game show on television? A state fair? It's pure armchair crap, and you're spinning it to fit your pre-conceived notions, rather transparently I may add. >What happens to you, your uniform and your weapon >which you are accountable for? Yes yes yes, so therefore it didn't happen? So what? So maybe the guy got yelled at for screwing up his bayonet? You have evidence otherwise? This is a big deal? This is some sort of stunning counter-proof? It's silly. If you have something substantive to say then by all means say it. But don't tell me that some 19 year old soldier (that's around the age they often are, right?) has never messed his uniform horsing around so therefore you find it implausible and, worse, believe you've added something to the discussion. What crap. >My point in all of this current thread is a kind of revolted fascination >at how far obsessions will take people in support of a "cause". Keren quoted verbatim transcripts of court testimony from respected sources, as he saw them to be relevant to the issue at hand. YOU are the one showing a revolting fascination and treating us all to your imaginations regarding this. And not adding one bit of useful information (I realize you are quite enamored with your little imaginings but seriously, it's just crap, just musings.) Have you ever heard the term "projecting"? I think you are projecting. YOU are fascinated, YOU comment and begin telling us your mental images conjured up by these testimonies. Then maybe you feel a bit guilty or shamed by these fantasies of yours so start spouting off at Daniel Keren. You remind me of a child who does something naught and then yells at his dolly. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@world.std.com | uunet!world!bzs Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD Article 24642 of alt.revisionism: Path: news.port.island.net!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Holocaust Museum Costs Taxpayers Date: 27 Jul 1995 18:03:12 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 10 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3v92f0$a3d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3v5c57$jk2@tetsuo.communique.net> Reply-To: dbtgthomas@aol.com (DbtgThomas) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com And California's grant of $5,000,000 tax dollars to the Wiesenthal Center in L.A. just survived a court test. Believe that a careful examination of the Washington museum's operation will show considerably more public monies in indirect support of its operation. There was a detailed discussion of that subject in this forum at one time, maybe 6 months ago. ----------------------------------------------------------- "For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time: hatred ceases by love-this is the eternal law." - The Pali Canon 1:5
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