From lindat@iquest.net Mon Sep 16 07:13:47 PDT 1996
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
Subject: Re: Waco Wacko  -- A Real Witness, and Hamsters in their Thimble
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A person who claims to be a former ATF agent and can actually use a
computer -- what a concept!  Well, too bad thinking doesn't go with
the computer.

First, I suggest you see:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


And also:  Waco, the Big Lie and Waco II, the Big Lie Continues, and
Forgive Us We didn't Know.

In *ALL THESE PHOTOS, ALL THIS FILM* you will see dozens of shots of
the cars and trucks outside Mt. Carmel, the windshields on the cars
outside Mt. Carmel -- right at the front door, mind you, and you'll
see the five foot fence in front of the front door, and you'll see the
cattle trailers the ATF drove up in (the trailers that stayed ON
CAMERA and OUTSIDE THE HOUSE for a few days afterwards), and many of
these shots are while ATF is just shooting away.

NONE of the things facing the house:  NOT THE FENCE, NOT THE
WINDSHIELDS OF THE CARS, NOT THE CATTLE TRAILERS THAT CARRIED THAT
WHOLE MASS OF INCOMPETENT, SCUMBAGS TO MT. CARMEL
has any holes in them.

AMAAAAZING, eh?

Did you know that several people INSIDE MT. CARMEL were killed the day
of the raid?

That's in the GOVERNMENT'S OWN REPORTS.

We have film showing the CHILD who was killed and the other who was
burned by one of you thugs' "flash-bang" grenades.

You are a disgrace.  You are a sick nazi thug and I wish ALL OF YOU
HAD DIED AT MT CARMEL ON FEBRUARY 28, 1993.

TOO DAMNED BAD YOU DIDN'T.

You and the other jack-booted, brainless robtos working for our
supposed "government" dictatorship are a waste of air and space on
this planet.



author@mainelink.net wrote:

>Hi Normal People,

>     Just thought I'd wipe up more slime that's been posted in the forum.




>kam@cv.hp.com (Keith Marchington) wrote:
>>Sarah Emma Edmonds writes:
>>: On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:21:29, dever@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Douglas A.
>>: Dever) wrote:
>>
>>: >No, no, no ,no maam... what counts here is *THE LAW*... 
>>
>>: You mean when the law comes knocking it is illegal to shoot and kill
>>: those law officers?  Yes the law does count, to some.
>>
>>	Funny that!  In the congressional hearings the BATF agents
>>	testified that they did not knock and had no intention of
>>	knocking.

>It seems rather pointless to knock after the residents have
>begun shooting at you -- begun shooting before you even got
>near the door.



>  They said that they trained to use only a dynamic
>>	entry after first creating a "diversion."  The fact that the
>>	diversion amounted to flash-bangs trough the window indicates

>Flashbangs weren't used until, during the firefight, agents
>climbed to the chapel roof to gain entry to the Davidians'
>arms room.


>The rest of Marchington's drivel is too silly to merit correction.


>                                            Jim



Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Mon Sep 16 07:13:49 PDT 1996
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This is a resend.  I should have changed the title to aptly reflect
the truth.

A person who claims to be a former ATF agent and can actually use a
computer -- what a concept!  Well, too bad thinking doesn't go with
the computer.

First, I suggest you see:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


And also:  Waco, the Big Lie and Waco II, the Big Lie Continues, and
Forgive Us We didn't Know.

In *ALL THESE PHOTOS, ALL THIS FILM* you will see dozens of shots of
the cars and trucks outside Mt. Carmel, the windshields on the cars
outside Mt. Carmel -- right at the front door, mind you, and you'll
see the five foot fence in front of the front door, and you'll see the
cattle trailers the ATF drove up in (the trailers that stayed ON
CAMERA and OUTSIDE THE HOUSE for a few days afterwards), and many of
these shots are while ATF is just shooting away.

NONE of the things facing the house:  NOT THE FENCE, NOT THE
WINDSHIELDS OF THE CARS, NOT THE CATTLE TRAILERS THAT CARRIED THAT
WHOLE MASS OF INCOMPETENT, SCUMBAGS TO MT. CARMEL
has any holes in them.

AMAAAAZING, eh?

Did you know that several people INSIDE MT. CARMEL were killed the day
of the raid?

That's in the GOVERNMENT'S OWN REPORTS.

We have film showing the CHILD who was killed and the other who was
burned by one of you thugs' "flash-bang" grenades.

You are a disgrace.  You are a sick nazi thug and I wish ALL OF YOU
HAD DIED AT MT CARMEL ON FEBRUARY 28, 1993.

TOO DAMNED BAD YOU DIDN'T.

You and the other jack-booted, brainless robtos working for our
supposed "government" dictatorship are a waste of air and space on
this planet.



author@mainelink.net wrote:

>Hi Normal People,

>     Just thought I'd wipe up more slime that's been posted in the forum.




>kam@cv.hp.com (Keith Marchington) wrote:
>>Sarah Emma Edmonds writes:
>>: On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:21:29, dever@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Douglas A.
>>: Dever) wrote:
>>
>>: >No, no, no ,no maam... what counts here is *THE LAW*... 
>>
>>: You mean when the law comes knocking it is illegal to shoot and kill
>>: those law officers?  Yes the law does count, to some.
>>
>>	Funny that!  In the congressional hearings the BATF agents
>>	testified that they did not knock and had no intention of
>>	knocking.

>It seems rather pointless to knock after the residents have
>begun shooting at you -- begun shooting before you even got
>near the door.



>  They said that they trained to use only a dynamic
>>	entry after first creating a "diversion."  The fact that the
>>	diversion amounted to flash-bangs trough the window indicates

>Flashbangs weren't used until, during the firefight, agents
>climbed to the chapel roof to gain entry to the Davidians'
>arms room.


>The rest of Marchington's drivel is too silly to merit correction.


>                                            Jim



Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Mon Sep 16 07:19:27 PDT 1996
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A person who claims to be a former ATF agent and can actually use a
computer -- what a concept!  Well, too bad thinking doesn't go with
the computer.

First, I suggest you see:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


And also:  Waco, the Big Lie and Waco II, the Big Lie Continues, and
Forgive Us We didn't Know.

In *ALL THESE PHOTOS, ALL THIS FILM* you will see dozens of shots of
the cars and trucks outside Mt. Carmel, the windshields on the cars
outside Mt. Carmel -- right at the front door, mind you, and you'll
see the five foot fence in front of the front door, and you'll see the
cattle trailers the ATF drove up in (the trailers that stayed ON
CAMERA and OUTSIDE THE HOUSE for a few days afterwards), and many of
these shots are while ATF is just shooting away.

NONE of the things facing the house:  NOT THE FENCE, NOT THE
WINDSHIELDS OF THE CARS, NOT THE CATTLE TRAILERS THAT CARRIED THAT
WHOLE MASS OF INCOMPETENT, SCUMBAGS TO MT. CARMEL
has any holes in them.

AMAAAAZING, eh?

Did you know that several people INSIDE MT. CARMEL were killed the day
of the raid?

That's in the GOVERNMENT'S OWN REPORTS.

We have film showing the CHILD who was killed and the other who was
burned by one of you thugs' "flash-bang" grenades.

You are a disgrace.  You are a sick nazi thug and I wish ALL OF YOU
HAD DIED AT MT CARMEL ON FEBRUARY 28, 1993.

TOO DAMNED BAD YOU DIDN'T.

You and the other jack-booted, brainless robtos working for our
supposed "government" dictatorship are a waste of air and space on
this planet.



author@mainelink.net wrote:

>Hi Normal People,

>     Just thought I'd wipe up more slime that's been posted in the forum.




>kam@cv.hp.com (Keith Marchington) wrote:
>>Sarah Emma Edmonds writes:
>>: On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:21:29, dever@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Douglas A.
>>: Dever) wrote:
>>
>>: >No, no, no ,no maam... what counts here is *THE LAW*... 
>>
>>: You mean when the law comes knocking it is illegal to shoot and kill
>>: those law officers?  Yes the law does count, to some.
>>
>>	Funny that!  In the congressional hearings the BATF agents
>>	testified that they did not knock and had no intention of
>>	knocking.

>It seems rather pointless to knock after the residents have
>begun shooting at you -- begun shooting before you even got
>near the door.



>  They said that they trained to use only a dynamic
>>	entry after first creating a "diversion."  The fact that the
>>	diversion amounted to flash-bangs trough the window indicates

>Flashbangs weren't used until, during the firefight, agents
>climbed to the chapel roof to gain entry to the Davidians'
>arms room.


>The rest of Marchington's drivel is too silly to merit correction.


>                                            Jim



Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Mon Sep 16 07:19:30 PDT 1996
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This is a resend.  I should have changed the title to aptly reflect
the truth.

A person who claims to be a former ATF agent and can actually use a
computer -- what a concept!  Well, too bad thinking doesn't go with
the computer.

First, I suggest you see:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


And also:  Waco, the Big Lie and Waco II, the Big Lie Continues, and
Forgive Us We didn't Know.

In *ALL THESE PHOTOS, ALL THIS FILM* you will see dozens of shots of
the cars and trucks outside Mt. Carmel, the windshields on the cars
outside Mt. Carmel -- right at the front door, mind you, and you'll
see the five foot fence in front of the front door, and you'll see the
cattle trailers the ATF drove up in (the trailers that stayed ON
CAMERA and OUTSIDE THE HOUSE for a few days afterwards), and many of
these shots are while ATF is just shooting away.

NONE of the things facing the house:  NOT THE FENCE, NOT THE
WINDSHIELDS OF THE CARS, NOT THE CATTLE TRAILERS THAT CARRIED THAT
WHOLE MASS OF INCOMPETENT, SCUMBAGS TO MT. CARMEL
has any holes in them.

AMAAAAZING, eh?

Did you know that several people INSIDE MT. CARMEL were killed the day
of the raid?

That's in the GOVERNMENT'S OWN REPORTS.

We have film showing the CHILD who was killed and the other who was
burned by one of you thugs' "flash-bang" grenades.

You are a disgrace.  You are a sick nazi thug and I wish ALL OF YOU
HAD DIED AT MT CARMEL ON FEBRUARY 28, 1993.

TOO DAMNED BAD YOU DIDN'T.

You and the other jack-booted, brainless robtos working for our
supposed "government" dictatorship are a waste of air and space on
this planet.



author@mainelink.net wrote:

>Hi Normal People,

>     Just thought I'd wipe up more slime that's been posted in the forum.




>kam@cv.hp.com (Keith Marchington) wrote:
>>Sarah Emma Edmonds writes:
>>: On Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:21:29, dever@bgsuvax.bgsu.edu (Douglas A.
>>: Dever) wrote:
>>
>>: >No, no, no ,no maam... what counts here is *THE LAW*... 
>>
>>: You mean when the law comes knocking it is illegal to shoot and kill
>>: those law officers?  Yes the law does count, to some.
>>
>>	Funny that!  In the congressional hearings the BATF agents
>>	testified that they did not knock and had no intention of
>>	knocking.

>It seems rather pointless to knock after the residents have
>begun shooting at you -- begun shooting before you even got
>near the door.



>  They said that they trained to use only a dynamic
>>	entry after first creating a "diversion."  The fact that the
>>	diversion amounted to flash-bangs trough the window indicates

>Flashbangs weren't used until, during the firefight, agents
>climbed to the chapel roof to gain entry to the Davidians'
>arms room.


>The rest of Marchington's drivel is too silly to merit correction.


>                                            Jim



Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Mon Sep 16 14:05:11 PDT 1996
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Russost@aol.com (S.Russo) wrote:

>99@spies.com (Extremely Right ) wrote:

>>SUBJECT: U.S. District Judge Duross Fitzpatrick dismissed Nancy Lord as
>>defendant Bob Starr's main counsel.

>You expect anything more from the hapless Louis Freeh(loader), his FBI
>and BATF?
>Reminds me of another guy in Georgia with the Gestappo..er... FBI up
>his ass.... remember the security guard at the olympics who's had his
>life ripped to shreds by Big Bro Freeh and NBC?


On Sat, 07 Sep 1996 16:48:50, moonbeam@gte.net (Douglas A. Sarbach)
wrote:

>FOR MASS DISTRIBUTION
>
>A terrible miss-justice has happen in Macon, Ga. today that will shock
>every Red Bloodied American. The Department of Injustice has seen to
>it, that Dr. Nancy Lord, Attorney at law and 1992 Libertarian
>Vice-president candidate, was removed from the Bob Starr Case in
>Federal Court of the middle district of Georgia. Early in the case Dr.
>Lord and the defense went to Jimmie McCranie's house to recover some
>vital evidence pertaining to the case. Now the Judge is claiming that
>there were explosive residue, and she is being threaten by the
>Department of Injustice of being subpoenaed to testify against her own
>client Bob Starr. Dr. Lord has stated that she will reserve her
>attorney client privilege, and her 5th Amendment right. Even risking
>the possibility of going to jail. 
>
>Is any American safe from being railroaded into false injustice, and
>used as a political stepping stone to glorify those who would want to
>rule over us and enslave us? How long will you ignore the abuses of an
>totalitarian government when they are imprisoning innocent people?
>Will you wait until they come from you, and will there be any American
>Citizen to defend you? 


Nancy Lord is an attorney and as an attorney, she is and was well
aware that by putting herself in a position of obtaining evidence, she
put herself in a position of becoming a witness, which by law,
requires that she remove herself for conflict of interest.  She did
not.  The judge is upholding the law in removing her, not as you
present it to the contrary.

There is a privilege against testifying against confidential
communications received from the client.  That is the CLIENT's
privilege, not the attorney's.  The attorney cannot disclose
communications from the client without the client's permission.

However, there is no such privilege to prevent and in fact, there is a
duty that requires, that a person who is or becomes a witness to
actual events, must testify.  Attorneys are well aware of this and as
a result, *DO NOT* go out and gather evidence.  They can hire an
independent third party to do this, among other things, as a way to
avoid the obvious problem presented if they were to do it themselves.

By the rules of attorney ethics, an attorney CANNOT, LEGALLY CANNOT
represent someone when they could also be called as a witness to any
matter in the case, which Lord knew when she involved herself in
gathering evidence.

She should have removed herself far earlier so her client would not be
disadvantaged by the lack of time for new counsel to prepare, or
alternatively, have to sit in jail waiting for trial longer, while new
counsel prepares. 

Based on the other circumstances involved in which Lord compromised
her client, of which many are aware, but which I will not rehash here,
and given the fact that Lord apparently glibly told the press that
when she was gathering the evidence that made her a witness, she had
gone "where her client told her she would find" this evidence (thus
revealing WHAT HER CLIENT TOLD HER -- a client confidence), it is
clearly the DUTY of the court to remove this attorney.

One might ask, instead:  How did Nancy Lord come to be on this case
and to compromise this man, in several ways, and then fail to remove
herself in a timely manner?  Who set this up?

Don't try to sell the pitch for money as if "poor little Nancy" is
being picked on.

In the meantime, however, Starr most assuredly does need a good
defense attorney and probably a truckload of cash. 

There *is* an attorny on the case, Scott McLarty.  He and the family
could and probably have, set up a legal escrow account to receive
funds for the defense.  No one with any sense should send money to
somebody in Florida.

There have been more scams running in this case than just the obvious
ATF scam and it's pretty disgusting to watch.






Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 17:48:49 PDT 1996
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
Subject: Re: Why DO people vote Republican?-- No good reason
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Bill Richardson  wrote:

>Roger C. Shouse wrote:
>> 
>> In article <511nri$a3i@doc.jmu.edu> gregorja@falcon.jmu.edu (Jamie A. Gregorian) writes:
>> >From: gregorja@falcon.jmu.edu (Jamie A. Gregorian)
>> >Subject: Why DO people vote Republican?-- No good reason
>> >Date: 9 Sep 1996 18:32:18 GMT
>> 
>> >alk.politics
>> >References: <4qa224$d3v@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <31EA9E35.5F74@insync.net>
>> ><01b9bedc$5c9747a0$3abda1ce@sunoco.erols.com>  <4uk2tv$q26@web.azstarnet.com> > 
>> >tn1a$ghg@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <4uuvll$fk0@news.ios.com> <32144A4A.4DFC@lis.ab.ca> <4vev0d$p5k@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <4vs2vu$j4b@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <
>> >Distribution:
>> 
>> >Lester John Ness (lness@indiana.edu) wrote:
>> >>       I have a lot of respect for Lincoln.  But look at the things he
>> >> did to promote the common good.  Consider the Homestead Act -- biggest
>> >> giveaway in human history.  Can you imagine any Repub today running on
>> >> Free Soil?
>> 
>> >        Ted Kennedy put it best, "In everything but name, the DEMOCRATS
>> >are the party of Lincoln." Lincoln could not get the nomination in today's
>> >GOP. Look at who all the ignorant, white-trash rednecks vote for. They
>> >went hardcore for Ollie North in my state. Do you think these are the same
>> >people who would have supported a man who wanted to free the slaves? Look
>> >at Strom Thurmond, when his bigoted, segregational views were no longer
>> >welcome in the Democratic party, he went the natural course, he went to
>> >the GOP, where wing nuts like North, Buchanan, and Dornan are fully
>> >welcomed.
>> 
>> >Jamie
>> 
>> Lincoln believed in the power of individual determination and the value of
>> individual freedom.  Most Democrats seem to scoff at both of these in favor of
>> increasing the power of the state.  Ever hear of Robert Byrd?  Big
>> powerful Democrat at one time, also a former officer in the KKK.  Know who the
>> biggest opponents of the 1964 civil rights act were?  Southern Democrats.
>> Know who the biggest proponents of racial quotas are?  Norther Democrats.
>> When it comes to drawing racial divisions among American citizens, the Dems
>> are right up there on top.
>> 
>> But I guess Kennedy does have something in common with Lincoln to the extent
>> that Lincoln was killed, and Kennedy killed a young girl.   The man is worthy
>> of pity at the most, careful watching at least, and certainly has nothing of
>> value to offer this country.
>> 
>> Roger Shouse


>Democrats do not scoff at individual determination and freedom! But.. 
>they do believe the government has a role to get individuals empowered 
>to the point (economically, educationally) where they can take 
>advantage of these. Republicans assume everyone can pick themselves up 
>by their own bootstraps. It would be nice in an idealistic world. But 
>the government (ie., government=will of people joined together to 
>provide for the good of the whole) has a role in provideing education, 
>incentives, and social safety net. The government certainly provides 
>these things to profit making corporations and business. The problem 
>with replublicans is that they are usually rich, greedy, and selfish. 
>They "want to keep what is their's because they earned it." Problably 
>more like they inherited it. This is a generalization but on average 
>is about right.

>Bill R., Riverview, Michigan


We do not have "Republicans" or "Democrats" in this country and
haven't for a long time.  Anyone still believing that line of baloney
is being led around by the nose.

Our so-called "Republicans," including Bob Dole, passed NAFTA, GATT,
and the 1995 Crime Bill, and the anti-terrorism bill -- all Democrat
intiatives.

The common denominators are which foreign country backs the player?
Whose MONEY is running the show?

It has NOTHING to do with "beliefs" of "democrats" or "republicans."
All that is a dog and poney show for the ignorant masses who still
think their vote means anything or that they are anything but slaves
of the people in power.

We have murderous criminals and crooks running our country and the
party of those people is wholly irrelevant.

See some proof:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum





Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 17:50:56 PDT 1996
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ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:

> jvanm@juno.com (Van Matre) writes:
 tdp@ix.netcom.com(Tom Potter) banged out:

><   Black helicopters and Bildergergers be damned,
><  Potter.  Wake up!  Wake up!  Creep slowy away 
><   from the lunatic fringe!  There's really a half way
><   decent world out there!

1.  Why do so many people seem to act like crazy people whenever Black
Helicopters are mentioned?

Years ago, the unit who flies the black helicopters was a "big secret"
and the public wasn't supposed to know.  It wasn't because the unit
was or is involved in something good, like space research, but rather,
because the unit received (and receives) "black budget" funds from
Congress, unaccountable to the public, and through the Organized Crime
Drug Enforcement Task Force (an illegal alliance of law enforcement
with the military), illegally served as the taxi-cab service for
private mafia squads of the FBI, DEA, and U.S. Customs.  They would
claim to be using task forces for "drug interdiction," but were in
fact, using them for private enterprises.

All the need for secrecy changed, however, when the military "Special
Operations Command" was formed, separate and apart from "Special
Forces," and when the 1995 Crime Bill officially (and
unConstitutionally) sanctioned the use of any federal agency in "crime
task forces."  Now the FBI, DEA, and military can form their mafia
squads out in the open and claim to be "fighting crime," and receive
their funds right out in the open.

2.  Well, if the black helicopters exist, where are they?

Ft. Campbell, Kentucky, is home of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne
Division. 

Ft. Cambell's homepage is:  http://www.campbell.army.mil/campbell.htm

It is also the homebase for the 160th Special Operations Aviation
Regiment (the 160th SOAR), known as the "Nightstalkers," whose motto
is "Death Waits in the Dark."  Their logo is Death on horseback.

See their logo at:  http://www.nightstalkers.com/death.htm  

See photos of some of their BLACK HELICOPTERS at:

http://www.nightstalkers.com/museum.htm 
http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/mh_53j.gif


3.  What's the big deal about whether they are "BLACK" helicopters or
not anyway?

The color is significant because Special Operations Command gets this
particular type of paint, called "CARC" because it is radar-absorbant.
The Special Operations units are often involved in clandestine (and
usually illegal) operations where they do not want to be detected and
if shot down, they do not want to be identified.  Their aircraft never
have any markings on them for this reason (unless they are temporarily
handpainted on in a homedone job when they are posing for TV).

The paint appears flat black.   Other Special Operations Units have
black aircraft as well.  Other black aircraft pictures can be seen at:

http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/ac_130h.gif

It is especially significant when the black chopper is either a
"Little Bird" or an "Apache."  The 160th is the only unit that flies
the black "Little Bird" tactical chopper and black Apaches.  The Army
mentions that the 160th is the only unit to fly the Hughes 500 Little
Bird on their page at:  http://www.campbell.army.mil/copters.htm
The drawing shown on that page is of a green little bird, however, an
actual Little Bird, in flight, and, of course, black, is shown on the
160th page at:  http://www.nightstalkers.com/museum.htm 

Thus, the color black is useful for identifying the unit and purpose
of the particular aircraft.

When Special Operations military is used against American Citizens on
U.S. soil, that should be cause for alarm and outrage.

******************************************************

4.  HOW YOU CAN KNOW THAT ANYONE LOUDLY HOOTING DOWN ANYONE WHO SPEAKS
ABOUT EITHER WACO OR BLACK HELICOPTERS AS A "LOON" IS A NO-GOOD,
SCUM-BAG, MURDEROUS TRAITOR:

Black little birds, flown only by the 160th Special Operations
Aviation Regiment, were filmed by CNN, and by the FBI (we have a copy
of the FBI tape and have widely distributed it for two years) at Waco,
several times.

Remember the government's lies that no active duty military played
anything but a "support" role at Waco?

Remember Title 18, Section 1385 of the U.S. Code that makes such use
of the Army against American citizens COMPLETELY ILLEGAL?

Remember the women and children who came out of Waco saying that the
helicopters had fired into their house, into the roof?

Remember the BLACK LITTLE BIRD seen on TV in the first opening shots
of the "three helicopters" at Waco?

Remember Waco II, our video, that shows where the MEDIA cut out the
section of video with the sounds of the helicopters firing into the
roof, but made the mistake of leaving in the VIDEO that shows the
BULLETS SHOWN BEING FIRED INTO THE ROOF?

GUESS WHO THAT WAS.  Guess why they have spent SO MUCH MONEY
trying to convince the American public that there are "no black
helicopters" and there was "no illegal use of military at Waco."
(Though this lie should have been obvious to anyone who saw the tanks
in the front yard . . . .)

The 160th is a unit specially trained to do nothing but kill.  Their
own video, which shows their training, can be seen at the Pratt
Museum.

They are trained to do "urban insertion" -- parachuting from a
helicopter while a DOOR GUNNER fires into the URBAN TARGET below as a
"DIVERSION."  We filmed the 160th actually doing this training.

Remember ATF Agent Ted Royster, right after Waco, saying, "We had our
plan down, we had our **diversion** down, things just went wrong"?
(He's shown saying this in Waco, the Big Lie).

Remember the Treasury Report which says the "helicopers were supposed
to be a "diversion""?

Senator Dan Burton, who was spearheading the efforts to investigate
Waco and the murder of Vince Foster, suddenly found his son arrested
for dope charges -- twice in six months.

In the meantime, I found out it was DAN BURTON'S CHIEF OF STAFF who
was the head of the so-called "military experts" at Congress who
"examined" my tapes and found them to be "wholly wrong," and ran the
entire "investigation" into the ground.

DAN BURTON'S CHIEF OF STAFF WENT TO WORK FOR BURTON DIRECTLY FROM
DUTY WITH THE 160th SPECIAL OPERATIONS AVIATION REGIMENT.

And, guess who used the M67A FLAME THROWING TANKS and a technique
called "JITTERBUGGING" to COLLAPSE UNDERGROUND BUNKERS in Vietnam?
Why, gee, the same group who were the "consultants" for Waco:  5th
Group, Special Forces, Delta Force.  (Reference:  Treasury Department
Report on Waco, also shown in Waco II, the Big Lie Continues).

NOW YOU KNOW SOME OF WHY WE'VE BEEN TOLD SO MANY LIES AND WHO THE
LIARS ARE.


=========================================================


GO SEE THE REST OF THE STORY AT:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


There you will also see the proof that the Branch Davidians did not
"commit suicide."  The autopsy pictures and Carol Valentine's
incredible and painstaking analysis of Waco, are the final blow.

Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 17:51:16 PDT 1996
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ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:

> jvanm@juno.com (Van Matre) writes:
 tdp@ix.netcom.com(Tom Potter) banged out:

><   Black helicopters and Bildergergers be damned,
><  Potter.  Wake up!  Wake up!  Creep slowy away 
><   from the lunatic fringe!  There's really a half way
><   decent world out there!

1.  Why do so many people seem to act like crazy people whenever Black
Helicopters are mentioned?

Years ago, the unit who flies the black helicopters was a "big secret"
and the public wasn't supposed to know.  It wasn't because the unit
was or is involved in something good, like space research, but rather,
because the unit received (and receives) "black budget" funds from
Congress, unaccountable to the public, and through the Organized Crime
Drug Enforcement Task Force (an illegal alliance of law enforcement
with the military), illegally served as the taxi-cab service for
private mafia squads of the FBI, DEA, and U.S. Customs.  They would
claim to be using task forces for "drug interdiction," but were in
fact, using them for private enterprises.

All the need for secrecy changed, however, when the military "Special
Operations Command" was formed, separate and apart from "Special
Forces," and when the 1995 Crime Bill officially (and
unConstitutionally) sanctioned the use of any federal agency in "crime
task forces."  Now the FBI, DEA, and military can form their mafia
squads out in the open and claim to be "fighting crime," and receive
their funds right out in the open.

2.  Well, if the black helicopters exist, where are they?

Ft. Campbell, Kentucky, is home of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne
Division. 

Ft. Cambell's homepage is:  http://www.campbell.army.mil/campbell.htm

It is also the homebase for the 160th Special Operations Aviation
Regiment (the 160th SOAR), known as the "Nightstalkers," whose motto
is "Death Waits in the Dark."  Their logo is Death on horseback.

See their logo at:  http://www.nightstalkers.com/death.htm  

See photos of some of their BLACK HELICOPTERS at:

http://www.nightstalkers.com/museum.htm 
http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/mh_53j.gif


3.  What's the big deal about whether they are "BLACK" helicopters or
not anyway?

The color is significant because Special Operations Command gets this
particular type of paint, called "CARC" because it is radar-absorbant.
The Special Operations units are often involved in clandestine (and
usually illegal) operations where they do not want to be detected and
if shot down, they do not want to be identified.  Their aircraft never
have any markings on them for this reason (unless they are temporarily
handpainted on in a homedone job when they are posing for TV).

The paint appears flat black.   Other Special Operations Units have
black aircraft as well.  Other black aircraft pictures can be seen at:

http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/ac_130h.gif

It is especially significant when the black chopper is either a
"Little Bird" or an "Apache."  The 160th is the only unit that flies
the black "Little Bird" tactical chopper and black Apaches.  The Army
mentions that the 160th is the only unit to fly the Hughes 500 Little
Bird on their page at:  http://www.campbell.army.mil/copters.htm
The drawing shown on that page is of a green little bird, however, an
actual Little Bird, in flight, and, of course, black, is shown on the
160th page at:  http://www.nightstalkers.com/museum.htm 

Thus, the color black is useful for identifying the unit and purpose
of the particular aircraft.

When Special Operations military is used against American Citizens on
U.S. soil, that should be cause for alarm and outrage.

******************************************************

4.  HOW YOU CAN KNOW THAT ANYONE LOUDLY HOOTING DOWN ANYONE WHO SPEAKS
ABOUT EITHER WACO OR BLACK HELICOPTERS AS A "LOON" IS A NO-GOOD,
SCUM-BAG, MURDEROUS TRAITOR:

Black little birds, flown only by the 160th Special Operations
Aviation Regiment, were filmed by CNN, and by the FBI (we have a copy
of the FBI tape and have widely distributed it for two years) at Waco,
several times.

Remember the government's lies that no active duty military played
anything but a "support" role at Waco?

Remember Title 18, Section 1385 of the U.S. Code that makes such use
of the Army against American citizens COMPLETELY ILLEGAL?

Remember the women and children who came out of Waco saying that the
helicopters had fired into their house, into the roof?

Remember the BLACK LITTLE BIRD seen on TV in the first opening shots
of the "three helicopters" at Waco?

Remember Waco II, our video, that shows where the MEDIA cut out the
section of video with the sounds of the helicopters firing into the
roof, but made the mistake of leaving in the VIDEO that shows the
BULLETS SHOWN BEING FIRED INTO THE ROOF?

GUESS WHO THAT WAS.  Guess why they have spent SO MUCH MONEY
trying to convince the American public that there are "no black
helicopters" and there was "no illegal use of military at Waco."
(Though this lie should have been obvious to anyone who saw the tanks
in the front yard . . . .)

The 160th is a unit specially trained to do nothing but kill.  Their
own video, which shows their training, can be seen at the Pratt
Museum.

They are trained to do "urban insertion" -- parachuting from a
helicopter while a DOOR GUNNER fires into the URBAN TARGET below as a
"DIVERSION."  We filmed the 160th actually doing this training.

Remember ATF Agent Ted Royster, right after Waco, saying, "We had our
plan down, we had our **diversion** down, things just went wrong"?
(He's shown saying this in Waco, the Big Lie).

Remember the Treasury Report which says the "helicopers were supposed
to be a "diversion""?

Senator Dan Burton, who was spearheading the efforts to investigate
Waco and the murder of Vince Foster, suddenly found his son arrested
for dope charges -- twice in six months.

In the meantime, I found out it was DAN BURTON'S CHIEF OF STAFF who
was the head of the so-called "military experts" at Congress who
"examined" my tapes and found them to be "wholly wrong," and ran the
entire "investigation" into the ground.

DAN BURTON'S CHIEF OF STAFF WENT TO WORK FOR BURTON DIRECTLY FROM
DUTY WITH THE 160th SPECIAL OPERATIONS AVIATION REGIMENT.

And, guess who used the M67A FLAME THROWING TANKS and a technique
called "JITTERBUGGING" to COLLAPSE UNDERGROUND BUNKERS in Vietnam?
Why, gee, the same group who were the "consultants" for Waco:  5th
Group, Special Forces, Delta Force.  (Reference:  Treasury Department
Report on Waco, also shown in Waco II, the Big Lie Continues).

NOW YOU KNOW SOME OF WHY WE'VE BEEN TOLD SO MANY LIES AND WHO THE
LIARS ARE.


=========================================================


GO SEE THE REST OF THE STORY AT:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


There you will also see the proof that the Branch Davidians did not
"commit suicide."  The autopsy pictures and Carol Valentine's
incredible and painstaking analysis of Waco, are the final blow.

Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 20:06:32 PDT 1996
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
Subject: Re: Waco Wacko  -- A Real Witness -- And An American Heroine And Author-The-Hero! [Yes, I'm Retired From ATF]
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Sender: lindat@iquest.net
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Organization: AMERICAN JUSTICE FEDERATION
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>>
>>Are you really an ATF agent?  Now or previous?
>>
>>Doc
>>
>>
>            Yes, retired, also author of a book to be released in March 
>covering the history of ATF, told via cases and incidents that 
>contributed to the bureau's evolution -- which includes a lot about the 
>NRA and its lies (documented, naturally).

>     The final title, publisher etc will be posted in this forum when the 
>book comes out.

>                                                Jim


SPEAKING OF LIES FROM THE ATF, GO SEE:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum





Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 21:55:46 PDT 1996
Article: 462125 of talk.politics.misc
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
Subject: Re: Waco Wacko -- A Real Witness
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"C. Pate"  wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Sarah Emma Edmonds wrote:
>> I guess if you had a white boss and he were to say, "chris you're a
>> dumb nigger", and I say Clarence Thomas is a house nigger, these terms
>> are equal.  
>	Yes they are. Both statements judge someone on the basis of their 
>race. The only difference in the second case is that instead of a blanket 
>condemnation of all blacks, it attacks blacks who don't act like you want 
>them to act, or who hold positions that _in your opinion_ harm other 
>blacks. If you don't like Thomas' views, fine(I don't either). But he's 
>not wrong because he's black, he's just wrong.

>> You just have to prove you are koo koo don't you?
>	What is it you're trying to prove, that you can make idiotic 
>statements and lameass arguments in defense of racism and government 
>abuse of power? I think we all concede the point...
>	BTW, it's interesting to me that you spend all your time backing 
>up scumbags like Wack & KKKennemur. By some mysterious coincidence, you 
>also have the exact same provider as Wack, as well as pushing the exact 
>same lies(the BATF is perfect, blacks like for people to call them 
>"niggers", etc.) as Wack. How many accounts does worldnet give everybody 
>anyway?
>	Of course it _could_ be a coincidence. It _could_ be that a 
>black woman who agrees with Wack that "house nigger" isn't racist came 
>along just as he was getting raked over the coals for his racism. It 
>_could_ be that she immediately decided she hated Wack's favorite 
>target Rivkis, and that Wack's archenemy Morton was the devil. It _could_ 
>be that it's just coincidence that she and Wack think exactly alike, from 
>their political stance to the people they like and don't like. Pretty 
>remarkable string of coincidences, tho...
>	Doesn't matter anyway. Whoever you are, you're wrong and we all 
>know it.

>Curtis

For your reference, my FAQ on a known Fed Troll:
===========================================================

Replying to a message left on by tdp@ix.netcom.com(Tom Potter),  the
following phony accounts/aliases, all amazingly in the same vein of
personal attacks replied:

On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, 22:53:22, rafeb@tiac.net (Rafe B.) wrote:

>Oh, aren't you a brave gunloon, Mr. Potter.
>Ready to wager a thousand dollars on 
>evidence provided by Linda Thompson,
>"Acting Adjutant General" of the 
>Loonies of America.
>Ms. Thompson is so loony, even the
>freakin John Birch Society won't endorse
>her BS.  But of course, that hasn't
>stopped you from swallowing it whole.

=============================
On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 14:02:39, voltai29@worldnet.att.net (Jim Kennemur)
wrote:

>That the same amout Potter charges for his full set of Kiddie Porn
>tapes. For more information contact his web site.
>Tom Potter      http://childlove/~incest

========================================

On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, 15:02:02,  jvanm@juno.com (note the same opening
wording and style) wrote:

>That the same Linda Thompson that tried to
>organize her own mllion man march on Washington ,
>only every body was 'spose to go marching on DC
>with their guns?  The same Linda Thompson who
>believes the government is bombarding her office
>in with waves from government mind control
>machines?  The same Linda Thompson that took her
>gun into the Indianapolis City Building and got
>into a tussle with a sheriff deputy over her right
>to take her gun into court?  The same Linda
>Thompson who during the ruckus, looked just plain
>crazy as a looooon?  Gawd.  And people waste their
>money on her Waco tapes.  Well, I guess there's a
>sucker born every minute.

======================

All of which are amazingly similar to a message a week earlier from
Elvis@graceland.net (Elvis A. Presley):

=======================

>Don't waste your breath on Caldwell, Scott.  He pals around with
>Militia General Linda Thompson who sees "Black" helicopters following
>her everywhere she goes.  Both the General and Caldwell are alleged to
>have recently been "beamed" aboard by aliens and had microchips
>implanted in their brains.  They both are now controlled by the
>'gubmint'!

**Tom Potter, tdp@ix.netcom.com, may likewise be an alias of the same
person since he, too, is from "pobox.com" (see list of known aliases
below).  This guy likes to post his own messages in one name, and then
reply, attacking, using several other names to make it appear that "a
crowd" shares his views.


=====================================================================
All of which are extremely similar to messages from a person who has
attacked me for  two years -- who has written more than 400 messages
about me, that became progressively more vile, including threatening
my children.  I have never attacked him, nor provoked him.  His agenda
is the result of my work on Waco and corruption in government.

     As he progressed, he wrote such things as:

             "Our main target(s) are easy to watch.  They make so many
trips from their Office to Taco Bell that we just track their Tostada
crumbs . . . "

           "It's a real bitch picking out the  target's kids during
recess at school . . . ."

           "Find out the truth about why Federal Agents had to kill
her puppy!"

          "I expect the ignorant fat ass lying bitch and her moronic
husband to come out with this bullshit . . . . "

          "Now we ALL know Linda and Al Thompson are both a couple of
sick fucks . . . ."

         "I see you are still hanging with your neo-nazi homies
asswipe! . . . .  "

           "Today I  I have taken the first of many steps to deal with
this facist bitch and initiated action on behalf of myself and in
conjunction with 11 Indianapolis Police Officers and Marion County
Sheriffs Department Deputies with the Indiana Supreme Court
Disciplinary Commission for alleged violations of Law  and Ethics . .



From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 21:55:49 PDT 1996
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
Subject: Re: 'Author' still shilling for Murder, Inc. 
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author@mainelink.net wrote:

>ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:

>A bit of snipping will get this down to brass tacks. Anyone interested 
>can flip back through the thread to get this guy's full post.

>><   ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:
>><   > author@mainelink.net writes:
>><   >
>><   ><	  The only evidence we have (vs. the speculations, assumptions
>><   ><	  and wishful thinking of gun-goofies) indicates that the fire
>><   ><	  that killed the children was started on Koresh's orders;
>><   >
>><   >	What evidence is that, please? 
>>
>><	Good Lord -- haven't you read *anything* the NRA didn't write?
>>
>>	Lurkers take note; when asked for evidence, Author merely
>>	offers up another silly statement.

>The evidence *is* volumious and has been well publicized. Either of these 
>reasons suffices for my refusal to waste time answering Nosy's request.

Here's a place to see some REAL evidence -- the government's very own,
even -- OF THE MURDERS AT WACO:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum





Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 21:56:17 PDT 1996
Article: 314735 of talk.politics.guns
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Subject: Re: Waco Wacko -- A Real Witness
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"C. Pate"  wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Sarah Emma Edmonds wrote:
>> I guess if you had a white boss and he were to say, "chris you're a
>> dumb nigger", and I say Clarence Thomas is a house nigger, these terms
>> are equal.  
>	Yes they are. Both statements judge someone on the basis of their 
>race. The only difference in the second case is that instead of a blanket 
>condemnation of all blacks, it attacks blacks who don't act like you want 
>them to act, or who hold positions that _in your opinion_ harm other 
>blacks. If you don't like Thomas' views, fine(I don't either). But he's 
>not wrong because he's black, he's just wrong.

>> You just have to prove you are koo koo don't you?
>	What is it you're trying to prove, that you can make idiotic 
>statements and lameass arguments in defense of racism and government 
>abuse of power? I think we all concede the point...
>	BTW, it's interesting to me that you spend all your time backing 
>up scumbags like Wack & KKKennemur. By some mysterious coincidence, you 
>also have the exact same provider as Wack, as well as pushing the exact 
>same lies(the BATF is perfect, blacks like for people to call them 
>"niggers", etc.) as Wack. How many accounts does worldnet give everybody 
>anyway?
>	Of course it _could_ be a coincidence. It _could_ be that a 
>black woman who agrees with Wack that "house nigger" isn't racist came 
>along just as he was getting raked over the coals for his racism. It 
>_could_ be that she immediately decided she hated Wack's favorite 
>target Rivkis, and that Wack's archenemy Morton was the devil. It _could_ 
>be that it's just coincidence that she and Wack think exactly alike, from 
>their political stance to the people they like and don't like. Pretty 
>remarkable string of coincidences, tho...
>	Doesn't matter anyway. Whoever you are, you're wrong and we all 
>know it.

>Curtis

For your reference, my FAQ on a known Fed Troll:
===========================================================

Replying to a message left on by tdp@ix.netcom.com(Tom Potter),  the
following phony accounts/aliases, all amazingly in the same vein of
personal attacks replied:

On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, 22:53:22, rafeb@tiac.net (Rafe B.) wrote:

>Oh, aren't you a brave gunloon, Mr. Potter.
>Ready to wager a thousand dollars on 
>evidence provided by Linda Thompson,
>"Acting Adjutant General" of the 
>Loonies of America.
>Ms. Thompson is so loony, even the
>freakin John Birch Society won't endorse
>her BS.  But of course, that hasn't
>stopped you from swallowing it whole.

=============================
On Sat, 14 Sep 1996 14:02:39, voltai29@worldnet.att.net (Jim Kennemur)
wrote:

>That the same amout Potter charges for his full set of Kiddie Porn
>tapes. For more information contact his web site.
>Tom Potter      http://childlove/~incest

========================================

On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, 15:02:02,  jvanm@juno.com (note the same opening
wording and style) wrote:

>That the same Linda Thompson that tried to
>organize her own mllion man march on Washington ,
>only every body was 'spose to go marching on DC
>with their guns?  The same Linda Thompson who
>believes the government is bombarding her office
>in with waves from government mind control
>machines?  The same Linda Thompson that took her
>gun into the Indianapolis City Building and got
>into a tussle with a sheriff deputy over her right
>to take her gun into court?  The same Linda
>Thompson who during the ruckus, looked just plain
>crazy as a looooon?  Gawd.  And people waste their
>money on her Waco tapes.  Well, I guess there's a
>sucker born every minute.

======================

All of which are amazingly similar to a message a week earlier from
Elvis@graceland.net (Elvis A. Presley):

=======================

>Don't waste your breath on Caldwell, Scott.  He pals around with
>Militia General Linda Thompson who sees "Black" helicopters following
>her everywhere she goes.  Both the General and Caldwell are alleged to
>have recently been "beamed" aboard by aliens and had microchips
>implanted in their brains.  They both are now controlled by the
>'gubmint'!

**Tom Potter, tdp@ix.netcom.com, may likewise be an alias of the same
person since he, too, is from "pobox.com" (see list of known aliases
below).  This guy likes to post his own messages in one name, and then
reply, attacking, using several other names to make it appear that "a
crowd" shares his views.


=====================================================================
All of which are extremely similar to messages from a person who has
attacked me for  two years -- who has written more than 400 messages
about me, that became progressively more vile, including threatening
my children.  I have never attacked him, nor provoked him.  His agenda
is the result of my work on Waco and corruption in government.

     As he progressed, he wrote such things as:

             "Our main target(s) are easy to watch.  They make so many
trips from their Office to Taco Bell that we just track their Tostada
crumbs . . . "

           "It's a real bitch picking out the  target's kids during
recess at school . . . ."

           "Find out the truth about why Federal Agents had to kill
her puppy!"

          "I expect the ignorant fat ass lying bitch and her moronic
husband to come out with this bullshit . . . . "

          "Now we ALL know Linda and Al Thompson are both a couple of
sick fucks . . . ."

         "I see you are still hanging with your neo-nazi homies
asswipe! . . . .  "

           "Today I  I have taken the first of many steps to deal with
this facist bitch and initiated action on behalf of myself and in
conjunction with 11 Indianapolis Police Officers and Marion County
Sheriffs Department Deputies with the Indiana Supreme Court
Disciplinary Commission for alleged violations of Law  and Ethics . .



From lindat@iquest.net Tue Sep 17 21:56:21 PDT 1996
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
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author@mainelink.net wrote:

>ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:

>A bit of snipping will get this down to brass tacks. Anyone interested 
>can flip back through the thread to get this guy's full post.

>><   ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:
>><   > author@mainelink.net writes:
>><   >
>><   ><	  The only evidence we have (vs. the speculations, assumptions
>><   ><	  and wishful thinking of gun-goofies) indicates that the fire
>><   ><	  that killed the children was started on Koresh's orders;
>><   >
>><   >	What evidence is that, please? 
>>
>><	Good Lord -- haven't you read *anything* the NRA didn't write?
>>
>>	Lurkers take note; when asked for evidence, Author merely
>>	offers up another silly statement.

>The evidence *is* volumious and has been well publicized. Either of these 
>reasons suffices for my refusal to waste time answering Nosy's request.

Here's a place to see some REAL evidence -- the government's very own,
even -- OF THE MURDERS AT WACO:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum





Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Wed Sep 18 00:52:24 PDT 1996
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ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) wrote:

> jvanm@juno.com (Van Matre) writes:
><   tdp@ix.netcom.com(Tom Potter) banged out:

><   >In  Spimby@Hotmail.com
><   >(Spimby) writes: 
><   >>
><   >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
><   >>
><   >>In article <9a7cc$121929.27a@news.goldengate.net>,
><   >mross@goldengate.net wrote:
><   >>
><   >>
><   >>   >> I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with this.  OK City was not the
><   >fault of
><   >>   >> the FBI/ATF.  It was _totally_ the fault of the wackos who did
><   >it.
><   >>   >> 
><   >>   >> 
><   >>   >> 'king Ross
><   >>
><   >>True.  And it's also important to point out that it was the fault of 
><   >>*ONLY* those individuals who did it.

><   >I wonder how people in a good society
><   >would feel, if when a citizen committed
><   >a henious crime, some citizens covered up 
><   >for him by telling all kinds
><   >of lies, destroying evidence,
><   >fabricating evidence, creating
><   >a great noise level, etc.

><   >Would the citizens who did this
><   >be accomplices or just good people?
><   >Tom Potter      http://pobox.com/~tdp

><   What I wonder is how an educated college man 
><   comes to accept cheaply made videos 

>	It's true, the BATF video with its mysterious gaps
>	at the very start of the raid has a cheap look to it...but
>	the FLIR video was hardly cheaply made, although that funny
>	gap-in-time that appears at a significant moment does
>	look cheap.

>	Of course, a similar cheap gap-in-time was blamed on one
>	Rose Marie Woods some years ago.

>	OTOH, watching the hearings in the House committee should
>	be enough to make one's skin crawl.

><   Black helicopters and Bildergergers be damned,
> 
>	Bzzt! The Texas National Guard choppers were painted a
>	version of olive-drab in 1993. Those would be the choppers
>	obtained by perjury...and I have no idea what a
>	"Bildergerger" is.

><  Potter.  Wake up!  Wake up!  Creep slowy away 
><   from the lunatic fringe!  There's really a half way
><   decent world out there.

>	Another fan of police state heard from.

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum





Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Wed Sep 18 10:09:32 PDT 1996
Article: 89215 of alt.conspiracy
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From: lindat@iquest.net (Dr. Linda Thompson)
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The issue of cigarettes being either (a) harmful (to the smoker or
others) or (b) a "gateway to drugs" is nothing but a distraction and
diversion, a propaganda tool, a means to keep you arguing amongst
yourselves over the wrong issue.

The issue is:  PERSONAL LIBERTY AND THE CONSTITUTION

Does the government have the lawful authority, granted from the
people, to regulate the conduct of any private individual?

NO.  

The federal government has no authority and never did have, to
regulate any crimes whatsoever.  Additionally, what authority it does
have, other than regulating interstate commerce, extends only to its
own territories, i.e., Washington, D.C., Guam, Puerto Rico.  The
individual states are sovereign and are NOT sub-units of the federal
government.  See the 10th Amendment.  The States AND the PEOPLE,
individually and collectively, have more authority and power than the
federal government.

Thus, the issue is:  Why have you let these servants tell you what you
can or can't do with your life, anyway?



"Joy S. Baenziger"  wrote:



>magi@flash.net wrote in article <32347F57.76EF@flash.net>...
>> Elizabeth C King wrote:
>> > 
>> > In article ,
>> > Eric Williams  wrote:
>> > >In a previous post, Elizabeth C King (eking@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:
>> > 
>> > >: How about a little logic here.  OBVIOUSLY, 95-100% of non-drug users
>> > >: also ate chocolate so there is no correlation between chocolate and
>> > >: drugs.  Cigarettes are much different.  The statistics show that
>kids who
>> > >: smoke cigarettes are 50 times more likely to use drugs.  This is a
>> > >: definite correlation... undeniable.  You may want to argue that even
>> > >: though there is a correlation there is no cause and effect but your
>> > >: childish example doesn't come close to making that argument.
>> > 
>> > >There's probably a correlation, but there's no reason to think the
>> > >cigarette's are to blame.  It's just as likely (if not more) that the
>> > >kind of person who is inclined to be addicted to nicotine will also be
>> > >inclined to be addicted to other drugs.  What you have here is a self-
>> > >selecting sample group, which can lead to all kinds of false
>conclusions
>> > >if you don't take it into account.
>> > 
>> > To quote fans of Rush... ditto.  I agree. 
>> 
>> Hmmm.  I found it odd that without exception, every potsmoker I've ever
>known
>> did NOT smoke tobacco.  And if cigarette smokers were indeed pulled
>through
>> the grid of the latest politically correct thesis, I would think the past

>> would have shown rampant nation-wide drug use...which was simply NOT the
>case.
>> I'm not for saying nicotine isn't harmful, but the gateway to drugs?  
>> Puhleeeze!!!!
>> 

>Don't be totally ridiculous

Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Wed Sep 18 11:12:00 PDT 1996
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SwopaTwo@aol.com (Swopa) wrote:

>In article <3238DDD5.1C7@cei.net>, Tim Watson  wrote:


>> >      And what if he *wins*?

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




 


Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Wed Sep 18 11:12:01 PDT 1996
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>> Bill Mechlenburg wrote:
>> [...]
>   >> What has Clinton accomplished?

To which ahall@cs.uml.edu (Andrew Hall) replied:

>   >> 1.  The economy.  Undeniably the economy has been relatively strong but the
>   >> economy started growing  robustly before he took office


But neglected to mention the facts and horrors of Bill Clinton's REAL
regime, which can be seen at:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

I am *not* affiliated with Public Action, the group sponsoring this
series of pages.

                       Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum
                      ============================
Warning: Some of the material at this web site is graphic,
                brutal, and shocking. Persons who do not wish
                to see or read such material should go no further.


This is the be-all, end-all to any question whether the government
employees and mercenaries involved in Waco were just hapless
incompetents who were negligent, or just "messed up," or are liars and
murderers. 

If murder indictments do not result from the evidence examined and put
forth to the public on these pages, then God have mercy on those whose
responsibility it is to do justice in this country.

                IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND DEEDS

The work and research done, largely by Carol Valentine, exposes what
was (until now) entirely ignored and vital aspects of the evidence
surrounding Waco.  Ms. Valentine has made her examination in
painstaking detail, from the government's own evidence.  It is
irrefutable.
                               
Most especially, Ms. Valentine's examination of the condition of the
bodies, analysis and cross-referencing of the autopsy reports is
absolutely devastating in its attention to detail and what is revealed
by those details.  Just a couple of the hundreds of the points of Ms.
Valentine's analysis of the government's reports reveal:

    -- Judy Schneider's body was completely missing its head, but
Rodney Crowe performed a "dental exam." 
    -- A "dental exam" was supposedly performed on a (toothless) fetus
    -- A "dental exam" was done on a lock of ponytail

FBI transcripts, testimony -- it's all there. See the photos of the
bodies and the autopsy reports, and a lot more.  See it for yourself.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. REPLICATE THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE
BEFORE IT IS DESTROYED.   Please inundate your local news media with
this information and DARE them to look and tell the truth, for once.

Review:  I have not personally seen a better examination of the
evidence from Waco, anywhere, ever. -- Linda Thompson


http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum




From lindat@iquest.net Wed Sep 18 11:12:02 PDT 1996
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The issue of cigarettes being either (a) harmful (to the smoker or
others) or (b) a "gateway to drugs" is nothing but a distraction and
diversion, a propaganda tool, a means to keep you arguing amongst
yourselves over the wrong issue.

The issue is:  PERSONAL LIBERTY AND THE CONSTITUTION

Does the government have the lawful authority, granted from the
people, to regulate the conduct of any private individual?

NO.  

The federal government has no authority and never did have, to
regulate any crimes whatsoever.  Additionally, what authority it does
have, other than regulating interstate commerce, extends only to its
own territories, i.e., Washington, D.C., Guam, Puerto Rico.  The
individual states are sovereign and are NOT sub-units of the federal
government.  See the 10th Amendment.  The States AND the PEOPLE,
individually and collectively, have more authority and power than the
federal government.

Thus, the issue is:  Why have you let these servants tell you what you
can or can't do with your life, anyway?



"Joy S. Baenziger"  wrote:



>magi@flash.net wrote in article <32347F57.76EF@flash.net>...
>> Elizabeth C King wrote:
>> > 
>> > In article ,
>> > Eric Williams  wrote:
>> > >In a previous post, Elizabeth C King (eking@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) wrote:
>> > 
>> > >: How about a little logic here.  OBVIOUSLY, 95-100% of non-drug users
>> > >: also ate chocolate so there is no correlation between chocolate and
>> > >: drugs.  Cigarettes are much different.  The statistics show that
>kids who
>> > >: smoke cigarettes are 50 times more likely to use drugs.  This is a
>> > >: definite correlation... undeniable.  You may want to argue that even
>> > >: though there is a correlation there is no cause and effect but your
>> > >: childish example doesn't come close to making that argument.
>> > 
>> > >There's probably a correlation, but there's no reason to think the
>> > >cigarette's are to blame.  It's just as likely (if not more) that the
>> > >kind of person who is inclined to be addicted to nicotine will also be
>> > >inclined to be addicted to other drugs.  What you have here is a self-
>> > >selecting sample group, which can lead to all kinds of false
>conclusions
>> > >if you don't take it into account.
>> > 
>> > To quote fans of Rush... ditto.  I agree. 
>> 
>> Hmmm.  I found it odd that without exception, every potsmoker I've ever
>known
>> did NOT smoke tobacco.  And if cigarette smokers were indeed pulled
>through
>> the grid of the latest politically correct thesis, I would think the past

>> would have shown rampant nation-wide drug use...which was simply NOT the
>case.
>> I'm not for saying nicotine isn't harmful, but the gateway to drugs?  
>> Puhleeeze!!!!
>> 

>Don't be totally ridiculous

Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com




From lindat@iquest.net Thu Sep 19 08:00:16 PDT 1996
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1.  Why do so many people react spastically at the mention of "Black
Helicopters" and immediately protest "THEY DON"T EXIST!"?

Years ago, the unit who flies the black helicopters was a "big secret"
and the public wasn't supposed to know.  It wasn't because the unit
was or is involved in something good, like space research, but rather,
because the unit received (and receives) "black budget" funds from
Congress, unaccountable to the public, and through the Organized Crime
Drug Enforcement Task Force (an illegal alliance of law enforcement
with the military), illegally served as the taxi-cab service for
private mafia squads of the FBI, DEA, and U.S. Customs.  They would
claim to be using task forces for "drug interdiction," but were in
fact, using them for private enterprises.

All the need for secrecy changed, however, when the military "Special
Operations Command" was formed, separate and apart from "Special
Forces," and when the 1995 Crime Bill officially (and
unConstitutionally) sanctioned the use of any federal agency in "crime
task forces."  Now the FBI, DEA, and military can form their mafia
squads out in the open and claim to be "fighting crime," and receive
their funds right out in the open.

2.  Well, if the black helicopters exist, where are they?

Ft. Campbell, Kentucky, is home of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne
Division. 

Ft. Cambell's homepage is:  http://www.campbell.army.mil/campbell.htm

It is also the homebase for the 160th Special Operations Aviation
Regiment (the 160th SOAR), known as the "Nightstalkers," whose motto
is "Death Waits in the Dark."  Their logo is Death on horseback.

See their logo at:  http://www.nightstalkers.com/death.htm  

See photos of some of their BLACK HELICOPTERS at:

http://www.nightstalkers.com/museum.htm 
http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/mh_53j.gif


3.  What's the big deal about whether they are "BLACK" helicopters or
not anyway?

The color is significant because Special Operations Command gets this
particular type of paint, called "CARC" because it is radar-absorbant.
The Special Operations units are often involved in clandestine (and
usually illegal) operations where they do not want to be detected and
if shot down, they do not want to be identified.  Their aircraft never
have any markings on them for this reason (unless they are temporarily
handpainted on in a homedone job when they are posing for TV).

The paint appears flat black.   Other Special Operations Units have
black aircraft as well.  Other black aircraft pictures can be seen at:

http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/ac_130h.gif

It is especially significant when a black helicopter is either a
"Little Bird" or an "Apache."  The 160th is the only unit that flies
the black "Little Bird" tactical chopper and black Apaches.  The Army
mentions that the 160th is the only unit to fly the Hughes 500 Little
Bird on their page at:  http://www.campbell.army.mil/copters.htm
The drawing shown on that page is of a green little bird, however, an
actual Little Bird, in flight, and, of course, black, is shown on the
160th page at:  http://www.nightstalkers.com/museum.htm 

Thus, the color black is useful for identifying the unit and purpose
of the particular aircraft.

For those who want to argue, "they're not really black, they're dark
GREEN," dark green can be seen on a C-130 at:

http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/c130.jpg

For those who want to argue "they're not really black, they're grey,
they just look black in the light," see the distinction between GREY
and BLACK on a GREY C-141 at:  

http://www.dtic.mil:80/airforcelink/pa/factsheets/pictures/c141.gif


When Special Operations military is used against American Citizens on
U.S. soil, that should be cause for alarm and outrage.

******************************************************

4.  HOW YOU CAN KNOW THAT ANYONE LOUDLY HOOTING DOWN ANYONE WHO SPEAKS
ABOUT EITHER WACO OR BLACK HELICOPTERS AS A "LOON" IS A NO-GOOD,
SCUM-BAG, MURDEROUS TRAITOR:

Black little birds, flown only by the 160th Special Operations
Aviation Regiment, were filmed by CNN, and by the FBI (we have a copy
of the FBI tape and have widely distributed it for two years) at Waco,
several times.

Remember the government's lies that no active duty military played
anything but a "support" role at Waco?

Remember Title 18, Section 1385 of the U.S. Code that makes such use
of the Army against American citizens COMPLETELY ILLEGAL?

Remember the women and children who came out of Waco saying that the
helicopters had fired into their house, into the roof?

Remember the BLACK LITTLE BIRD seen on TV in the first opening shots
of the "three helicopters" at Waco?

Remember Waco II, our video, that shows where the MEDIA cut out the
section of video with the sounds of the helicopters firing into the
roof, but made the mistake of leaving in the VIDEO that shows the
BULLETS SHOWN BEING FIRED INTO THE ROOF?

GUESS WHO THAT WAS.  Guess why they have spent SO MUCH MONEY
trying to convince the American public that there are "no black
helicopters" and there was "no illegal use of military at Waco."
(Though this lie should have been obvious to anyone who saw the tanks
in the front yard . . . .)

The 160th is a unit specially trained to do nothing but kill.  Their
own video, which shows their training, can be seen at the Pratt
Museum.

They are trained to do "urban insertion" -- parachuting from a
helicopter while a DOOR GUNNER fires into the URBAN TARGET below as a
"DIVERSION."  We filmed the 160th actually doing this training.

Remember ATF Agent Ted Royster, right after Waco, saying, "We had our
plan down, we had our **diversion** down, things just went wrong"?
(He's shown saying this in Waco, the Big Lie).

Remember the Treasury Report which says the "helicopers were supposed
to be a "diversion""?

Senator Dan Burton, who was spearheading the efforts to investigate
Waco and the murder of Vince Foster, suddenly found his son arrested
for dope charges -- twice in six months.

In the meantime, I found out it was DAN BURTON'S CHIEF OF STAFF who
was the head of the so-called "military experts" at Congress who
"examined" my tapes and found them to be "wholly wrong," and ran the
entire "investigation" into the ground.

DAN BURTON'S CHIEF OF STAFF WENT TO WORK FOR BURTON DIRECTLY FROM
DUTY WITH THE 160th SPECIAL OPERATIONS AVIATION REGIMENT.

And, guess who used the M67A FLAME THROWING TANKS and a technique
called "JITTERBUGGING" to COLLAPSE UNDERGROUND BUNKERS in Vietnam?
Why, gee, the same group who were the "consultants" for Waco:  5th
Group, Special Forces, Delta Force.  (Reference:  Treasury Department
Report on Waco, also shown in Waco II, the Big Lie Continues).

NOW YOU KNOW SOME OF WHY WE'VE BEEN TOLD SO MANY LIES ABOUT WACO,
ABOUT BLACK HELICOPTERS AND WHO THE LIARS ARE.

=========================================================

GO SEE THE REST OF THE STORY AT:

http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum  <---- Best address
http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum
http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum


There you will also see the proof that the Branch Davidians did not
"commit suicide."  The autopsy pictures and Carol Valentine's
incredible and painstaking analysis of Waco, are the final blow.

Kind regards,

************ V ***************
 Death to the New World Order
******************************

Dr. Linda Thompson
Attorney at Law
Chairman, American Justice Federation
lindat@iquest.net

******************************
      Remember Waco.
The murderers are still free.
******************************
   Have you seen this yet?
http://206.55.8.10/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum

If you have trouble accessing this site, contact
SkyWriter@Public-Action.com

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