Seventh Day:
Wednesday, 28th November, 1945
[Page 234]
I now offer in evidence document 2994-PS, which is an
affidavit executed by Kurt von Schuschnigg, Foreign
Chancellor of Austria, at Nuremberg, Germany on 19th
November, 1945. I offer this as exhibit USA 66. The
defendants have received German translations of that
evidence.
DR. LATERNSER (Counsel for the defendant Seyss-Inquart): In
the name of the accused, Seyss-Inquart, I wish to protest
against the presentation of written evidence by the witness
von Schuschnigg, for the following reasons: To-day, when a
resolution was announced, with respect to the use to be made
of the written evidence of Mr. Messersmith, the Court was of
the opinion that in a case of very great importance it might
possibly take a different view of the matter. With respect
to the Austrian conflict, this is such a case, since
Schuschnigg is the most important witness. He was the
witness who at the time had the office of Federal Chancellor
which was affected. In the case of such an important
witness, the principle of direct evidence must be adhered to
in order that the Court be in a position to ascertain the
actual truth in this case. The accused and his defence
counsel would feel prejudiced in his defence should direct
evidence be circumvented. I must, therefore, uphold my
viewpoint since it can be assumed that the
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I, therefore, submit an application to the Court that the
written evidence of the witness, von Schuschnigg, be not
admitted.
THE PRESIDENT: If you have finished the Tribunal will hear
Mr. Alderman.
MR. ALDERMAN: May it please the Tribunal, at this point I am
simply proposing to offer this affidavit for the purpose of
showing the terms of the secret understanding between the
German and Austrian Governments in connection with this
accord. It is not with any purpose of incriminating the
defendant, Seyss-Inquart, that it is being offered at this
point.
DR. LATERNSER : May I complete my application by saying that
the witness, von Schuschnigg, on the 19th of November, 1945,
was questioned in Nuremberg, and that, if an interrogation
on the 19th of November was possible, such a short time
later it ought to be possible to call him before the Court,
especially as the interrogation before this Court is of
special importance.
THE PRESIDENT: The Tribunal will recess now to consider this
question.
(A recess was taken.)
THE PRESIDENT: The Tribunal has considered the objection to
the affidavit of von Schuschnigg and upholds the objection.
If the prosecution desires to call von Schuschnigg as a
witness they can apply to do so. Equally the defence, if
they wish to call von Schuschnigg as a witness, can apply to
do so. In the event of von Schuschnigg not being able to be
produced the question of affidavit-evidence by von
Schuschnigg being given will be reconsidered.
MR. ALDERMAN: May it please the Tribunal, in view of the
strategy and tactics of the Nazis' concessions as indicated
in the portion of the Messersmith affidavit that I read,
substantial concessions were made by Austria to obtain
Germany's diplomatic formal assurance of Austrian
independence and non-intervention in Austrian internal
affairs.
The release of employed Nazis presented potential police
problems, and as Mr. Messersmith pointed out in a 1934
dispatch to the United States State Department quoted on pages 12
to 13 of his affidavit:-
On 16th July, 1936, just five days later, Hitler violated
that provision. I quote from document 812-PS, which is
exhibit USA 61, the reports of Gauleiter Rainer to Commissar
Burckel, all of which were forwarded to the defendant Seyss-
Inquart, at page 6 of the English and, I believe, also page
6 of the German version:
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I make a specific mention of the foregoing because it shows
the degree to which the situation in Austria had
disintegrated as a result of the underground and open Nazi
activities directed from Germany.
At this point I offer in evidence document 2246-PS as
exhibit USA 67, a captured German document, which is a
report from von Papen to Hitler, dated 1st September, 1936.
This document is most interesting because it indicates von
Papen's strategy, after 11th July, 1936, for destroying
Austria's independence. Von Papen had taken a substantial
step forward with the agreement of 11th July. It should be
noted, incidentally, that, after that agreement, he was
promoted from Minister to Ambassador. Now his tactics were
developed in the following terms, I quote the last three
paragraphs of his letter of 1st September, 1936, to the
Fuehrer and Reich Chancellor. These three paragraphs are all
joined as one paragraph in the English text:
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(a) Obtaining a change in personnel in the Austrian Ministry
of Security in due course.
My next subject is "Germany's Diplomatic Preparations for
the Conquest of Austria."
The programme of the Nazi conspiracy with respect to Austria
consisted of weakening that country externally and
internally by removing its support from without, as well as
by penetrating within. This programme was of the utmost
significance, especially since, as the Court will remember,
the events Of 25th July, 1934, inside Austria, were
overshadowed in the news of the day by the fact that
Mussolini had brought his troops to the Brenner Pass, and
poised there as a strong protector of his Northern
neighbour, Austria.
Accordingly, interference in the affairs of Austria, and
steady increase in the pressure needed to acquire control
over that country, required removal of the possibility that
Italy or any other country would come to her aid. But the
foreign policy programme of the conspiracy for the weakening
and isolation of Austria was integrated with their foreign
policy programme in Europe generally.
I should like, therefore, at this juncture, to digress for a
moment from the presentation of evidence bearing on Austria
alone, and to consider with the Tribunal the general foreign
policy programme of the Nazis. It is not my intention to
examine this subject in any detail. Historians and scholars
exhausting the archives will have many years of exploring
all the details and ramifications of European diplomacy
during this fateful decade.
It is, instead, my purpose to mention very briefly the
highlights of the Nazis' diplomatic preparation for war.
In this connection I should like to offer to the Tribunal
document 2385-PS, a second affidavit of George S.
Messersmith executed on 30th August, 1945, at Mexico City.
This has been made available to the defendants in German, as
well as in English.
This is a different affidavit from document I760-PS, which
was executed on 28th August. This second affidavit, which I
offer as exhibit USA 68, consists of a presentation of the
diplomatic portion of the programme of the Nazi party. To a
considerable extent it merely states facts of common
knowledge, facts that many people who are generally well-
informed already know. It also gives us facts which are
common knowledge in the circle of diplomats or of students
of foreign affairs. It consists of some eleven mimeographed
pages, single-spaced. I read from the third paragraph in the
affidavit:-
[Page 238] [Page 239]
The Locarno Pact of 1928, supplemented by the Franco-Belgian
alliance, guaranteed the territorial status quo in the West.
Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Roumania were allied in the
Little Entente and each, in turn, was united with France by
Mutual Assistance Pacts. Since 1922, France and Poland
likewise had been allied against external aggression. Italy
had made plain her special interest in Austrian
independence.
Nazi Germany launched a vigorous diplomatic campaign to
break up the existing alliances and understandings, to
create divisions among the members of the Little Entente and
the other Eastern European powers.
Specifically, Nazi Germany countered these alliances with
promises of economic gain for co-operating with Germany. To
some of these countries she offered extravagant promises of
territorial and economic rewards. She offered Corinthia and
Austria to Yugoslavia. She offered part of Czechoslovakia to
Hungary and part to Poland. She offered Yugoslav territory
to Hungary, at the same time that she was offering land in
Hungary to Yugoslavia.
As Mr. Messersmith states in his affidavit, that's, document
238S-PS, page 5:-
Germany made like promises of territorial gains to
Hungary and to Poland in order to gain their co-
operation or at least their acquiescence in the proposed
dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. As I learned from my
diplomatic colleagues in Vienna, von Papen and von
Mackensen in Vienna and in Budapest in 1935 were
spreading the idea of division of Czechoslovakia, in
which division Germany was to get Bohemia, Hungary to
get Slovakia, and Poland the rest. This did not deceive
any of these countries, for they knew that the intention
of Nazi Germany was to take all.
The Nazi German Government did not hesitate to make
inconsistent promises when it suited its immediate
objective. I recall the Yugoslav Minister in Vienna
saying to me, in 1934 or 1935, that Germany had made
promises to Hungary of Yugoslav territory, while at the
same time promising to Yugoslav portions of Hungarian
territory. The Hungarian Minister in Vienna later gave
me the same information.
I should emphasise here in this statement that the men
who made these promises were not only the dyed-in-the-
wool Nazis, but more conservative Germans who already
had begun to lend themselves willingly to the Nazi
programme. In an official dispatch to the Department of
State from Vienna, dated 10th October, 1935, I wrote as
follows:
The fact is that with all these countries, and I suppose it
is the same with all persons, we are not always completely
rational, we tend to believe what we want to believe, so
that if an apparently substantial and conservative person,
like defendant von Neurath, for example, is saying these
things, one might be apt to believe them, or at least, to
act upon that hypothesis. And it would be the more
convincing if one were also under the impression that the
person involved was not a Nazi and would not stoop to go
along with the designs of the Nazis.
Germany's approach toward Great Britain and France was in
terms of limited expansion as the price of peace. They
signed a naval limitations treaty with England and discussed
a Locarno Air Pact. In the case of both France and England,
they limited their statement of intentions and harped on
fears of Communism and war.
In making these various promises, Germany was untroubled by
notions of the sanctity of international obligations. High
ranking Nazis, including Goering, Frick and Frank, openly
stated to Mr. Messersmith that Germany would observe her
international undertakings only so long as it suited her
interest to do so.
I quote from the affidavit, document 2385-PS, beginning on
the tenth line, page 4 of the English version:-
THE PRESIDENT: Would that be a convenient time to break off?
MR. ALDERMAN: Yes, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Until 10 o'clock to-morrow morning.
(The Tribunal adjourned until 29th November, 1945, at 1000
hours.)
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[MR. ALDERMAN continues]
"Any prospect that the National Socialists might come
to power would make it more difficult to obtain
effective police and judicial action against the Nazis,
for fear of reprisals by the future Nazi Government
against those taking action against Nazis even in the
performance of duty. The preservation of internal peace
in Austria was less independent upon Germany's living
up to its obligations under the accord."
Next, Germany's continuing programme of weakening the
Austrian Government. In the pact of 11th July, 1936, Germany
agreed not to influence directly or indirectly the internal
affairs of Austria, including the matter of Austrian
National Socialism.
"At that time the Fuehrer wished to see the leaders of
the party in Austria in order to tell them his opinion
on what Austrian National Socialists should do.
Meanwhile Hinterleitner was arrested, and Doctor Rainer
became his successor and the leader of the Austrian
party. On 16th July, 1936, Doctor Rainer and Globoznik
visited the Fuehrer at the Obersalzberg, where they
received a clear explanation of the situation and the
wishes of the Fuehrer. On 17th July, 1936, all illegal
Gauleiters met in Anif, near Salzburg, where they
received a complete report from Ranier on the statement
of the Fuehrer and his political instructions
I am skipping a paragraph from this report in the English
version.
"Upon the proposal of Globotschnik, the Fuehrer named
Lt. Gen. (Gruppenfuehrer) Keppler as chief of the mixed
commission which was appointed, in accordance with the
state treaty of 11th July, 1936, to supervise the
correct execution of the agreement. At the same time
Keppler was given full authority by the Fuehrer for the
party in Austria. After Keppler was unsuccessful in his
efforts to co-operate with Leopold, he worked together
with Doctor Rainer, Globoznik, Reinthaler as leader of
the peasants, Kaltenbrunner (that is the defendant
Kaltenbrunner in this case) leader of the SS, and
Doctor Jury as deputy leader of the Austrian party, as
well as von Glaise-Horstenau and Seyss-Inquart."
A new strategy was developed for the Austrian Nazis. Mr.
Messersmith describes briefly - and I quote from page
thirteen of his affidavit, document 1760-PS: "The sequel of
the agreement was the only one which could have been
expected in view of all the facts and previous recorded
happenings." Active Nazi operations in Austria were resumed
under the leadership of a certain Captain Leopold who, as
was known definitely, was in frequent touch with Hitler. The
Nazi programme was now to form an organisation through which
the Nazis could carry on their operations openly and with
legal sanction in Austria. There were formerly in Austria
several organisations which had a legal basis, but which
were simply a device by which the Nazis in Austria could
organise and later seek inclusion as a unit in the Patriotic
Front. The most important of these was the Ostmaerkische
Versin, the Union of the East Mark, the sponsor of which was
the Minister of the Interior, Glaise-Horstenau. Through the
influence of Glaise-Horstenau and pro-Nazi Neustadter
Sturmer, this organisation was declared legal by the court.
"The progress of normalising relations with Germany at
the present time is obstructed by the continued
persistence of the Ministry of Security, occupied by
the old anti-National Socialistic officials. Changes in
personnel are therefore of utmost importance. But they
are definitely not to be expected prior to the
conference on the abolishing of the Control of Finances
at Geneva. The Chancellor of the League has informed
Minister von Glaise-Horstenau of his intention to offer
him the portfolio of the Ministry of the Interior. As a
guiding principle 'Marschroute' (a German word meaning
the 'Route of March') I recommend on the tactical side
continued, patient, psychological treatment with slowly
intensified pressure, directed at changing the regime.
The proposed conference on economic relations, taking
place at the end of October, will be a very useful tool
for the realisation of some of our projects. In
discussion with Government officials as well as with
leaders of the illegal party - Leopold and Schattenfroh
- who conform completely with the agreement of 11th
July - I am trying to direct the next developments in
such a manner as to aim at corporative representation
of the movement in the Fatherland front, but
nevertheless refraining
Citing Papen. To recapitulate, this report by von Papen to
Hitler discloses the following plan :
(b) Obtaining corporative representation of the Nazi
movement in the Fatherland front.
(c) Not putting avowed National Socialists in important
positions yet, but using Nationalist personalities.
(d) Using economic pressure and patient psychological
treatment with slowly intensified pressure directed at
changing the regime.
"As early as 1933, while I served in Germany, the German
and Nazi contacts, which I had in the highest and
secondary categories, openly acknowledged Germany's
ambitions to dominate South-eastern Europe from
Czechoslovakia down to Turkey. As they freely stated,
the objective was territorial expansion in the case of
Austria and Czechoslovakia. The professed objectives in
the earlier stages of the Nazi regime, in the remainder
of South-eastern Europe, were political and economical
control, and they did not at that time speak so
definitely of actual absorption and destruction of
sovereignty. Their ambitions, however, were not
Then, skipping a short paragraph, I resume:-
"Immediately after the Nazis came into power, they
started a vast rearmament programme. This was one of the
primary immediate objectives of the Nazi regime. As a
matter of fact, the two immediate objectives of the Nazi
regime, when it came into power, had to be, and were,
according to their own statements frequently made to me:
first, to bring about the complete and absolute
establishment of their power over Germany and the German
people, so that they would become in every respect
willing and capable instruments of the regime to carry
through its ends; and second, the establishment of a
tremendous armed power within Germany in order that the
political and economic programme in South-eastern Europe
and in Europe could be carried through by force if
necessary, but probably by a threat of force. It was
characteristic that, in carrying through this second
aim, they emphasised from the very outset the, building
of an over-powering Air Force. Goering and Milch often
said to me or in my presence that the Nazis had decided
to concentrate on air power as the weapon of terror most
likely to give Germany a dominant position, and the
weapon which could be developed the most rapidly and in
the shortest time."
Skipping to the end of that paragraph, and resuming at the
next:-
"At the same time that this rearmament was in progress,
the Nazi regime took all possible measures to prepare
the German people for war in the psychological sense.
Throughout Germany, for example, one saw everywhere
German youth of all ages engaged in military exercises,
drilling, field manoeuvres, practising the throwing of
hand grenades, etc.-. In this connection 1 wrote in an
official communication in November, 1933, from Berlin as
follows. '. Everything that is being done in the country
to-day is with the object of making the people believe
that Germany is threatened vitally in every aspect of
its life by outside influences and by other countries.
Everything is being done to use this feeling to
stimulate military training and exercises, and
innumerable measures are being taken to develop the
German people into a hardy, sturdy race which will be
able to meet all comers. The military spirit is
constantly growing. It cannot be otherwise. The leaders
of Germany to-day have no desire for peace, unless it is
a peace which the world would make at the expense of
complete compliance with German desires and ambitions.
Hitler and his associates really and sincerely want
peace for the moment, but only to have a chance to get
ready to use force if it is found finally essential.
They are preparing their way so carefully that there is
not, in my mind, any question but that the German people
will be with them when they want to use force, and when
they feel that they have the necessary means to carry
through their objects."
I quote one further sentence:
"Military preparation and psychological preparation were
coupled with diplomatic preparation, designed to so
disunite and isolate their intended victims amongst the
members of the Little Entente as to render them
defenceless against German aggression."
"Austria and Czechoslovakia were the first on the German
programme of aggression. As early as 1934, Germany began
to woo neighbours of these countries with the promises
of a share in the loot. To Yugoslavia in particular they
offered Carinthia. Concerning the Yugoslav reaction, I
reported at the time:
I find that last paragraph very important and worthy of
emphasis. In other words, Nazi Germany was able to promote
these divisions and increase its own aggressive strength by
using as its agents in making these promises, men who, on
outward appearances, were merely conservative diplomats. It
is true that Nazis openly scoffed at any notion of
international obligations, as I shall show in a moment. It
is true that the real trump in Germany's hand was its
rearmament and more than that, its willingness to go to war.
And yet the attitude of the various countries was not
influenced by these considerations alone.
'The major factor in the internal situation in the
last week has been the increase in tension with
respect to the Austrian Nazi refugees in Yugoslavia..
There is very little doubt but that Goering, when he
made his trip to various capitals in South-eastern
Europe about six months ago, told the Yugoslavs that
they would get a part of Carinthia, when a National
Socialist Government came into power in Austria.. The
Nazi seed sown in Yugoslavia had been sufficient to
cause trouble, and there are undoubtedly a good many
people there who look with a great deal of
benevolence on those Nazi refugees who went to
Yugoslavia in the days following July 25.'
'Europe will not get away from the myth that
Neurath, Papen and Mackensen are not dangerous people
and that they are "diplomats of the old school." They
are, in fact, servile instruments of the regime, and
just because the outside world looks upon them as
harmless, they are able to
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work more effectively. They are able to sow discord
just because they propagate the myth that they are
not in sympathy with the regime.'"
"High ranking Nazis with whom I had to maintain official
contact, particularly men such as Goering, Goebbels, Ley,
Frick, Frank, Darre and others, repeatedly scoffed at my
attitude towards the binding character of treaties, and
openly stated to me that Germany would observe her
international undertakings only so long as it suited
Germany's interest to do so. Although these statements were
openly made to me, as they were, I am sure, made to others,
these Nazi leaders were not really disclosing any secret,
for on many occasions they expressed the same idea
publicly."
France and Italy worked actively in South-eastern Europe to
counter Germany's moves.