Two Hundred and Sixth Day:
Monday, 19th August, 1946 [Page 264]
DR. MERKEL: Very well, Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: It is suggested to me that perhaps it would
be better for you to offer it in evidence and give it a
number in your list of numbers.
DR. MERKEL: Then I shall give the transcript of 9th July the
member Gestapo Exhibit 63; 19th July shall be Gestapo
Exhibit 64; 27th July, Exhibit 65, and 3rd August, Gestapo
Exhibit 66.
I should like to suggest that the submission of these
affidavits be effected in the following way so that time can
be saved. Twenty-two out of the 91 have been translated. I
shall now summarize the most important of these 91
affidavits according to subject matter, and I shall also
read some few brief passages from the affidavits which have
been translated, which seem of especial importance to me,
into the record. Of the remaining affidavits, I ask that the
Tribunal take judicial notice.
Besides these 91 individual affidavits, a collective
affidavit is at hand composed of 1265 individual affidavits.
This summary, in line with the resolution of the Tribunal of
5th July, 1946, was prepared by former members of the
Gestapo who are now imprisoned, and the authenticity of this
summary was certified by me. I ask your permission to read
also this brief summary into the record.
I turn to the first group, and I shall summarize Affidavits
Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 13, 71 and 90. They deal with the
occupied countries. Jewish questions here were handled by a
special detachment under the leadership of Dannecker. From
1940 to 1942 they were carried out by the French Government,
in agreement with the military commander and the German
Embassy. Detention camps in France were supervised by the
military commander.
[Page 265]
From Affidavit 2, which has been translated, I ask
permission to read the following: Page 1, paragraph 2:
Composition of the Security Police Command Dijon:
There were about 10 Gestapo members; 13 criminal police
(Kripo) members, and 69 men for emergency service
(Notdienstverpflichtete).
As can be seen from the list, of the 92 male members of
my command at the time, only ten belonged to the Gestapo.
In this connection it must be taken into account that of
these ten Gestapo members, the larger part did not
volunteer for the Gestapo, but were transferred or
ordered to it, or came to it for some other reason,
without those concerned having been able to have any
influence on the decision, or to resist it."
DR. MERKEL: The second passage in Affidavit 2, at Page 3 of
the German original; it follows directly after the brief
heading, " Jewish Questions." It is the next paragraph.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
DR. MERKEL: I shall omit the next four paragraphs and read
on:
[Page 266]
THE PRESIDENT: What does that mean, "200 kilometres behind
the invasion line" in reference to June, 1942?
DR. MERKEL: That is the town of Poitiers, which is about 200
kilometres behind the invasion line.
THE PRESIDENT: There was no invasion in 1942.
DR. MERKEL: In June, 1944. That is a typographical error.
THE PRESIDENT: Go on.
Numbers 15 to 27, 29 to 34, 72, 73, 76, 84, and 85 deal with
the following: The offices of the Security Police and the
Security Service in occupied countries were not made up of
voluntary members. Administrative officials or technical
officials of the Gestapo had nothing to do with carrying out
orders, and in view of the strictest secrecy which was
preserved, they could not know anything about details.
Employees and persons in compulsory emergency service cannot
be considered as accomplices in, or as having knowledge of,
the possibly criminal nature of the organization. New
members were not brought in by voluntary recruitment, but
rather as a result of assignment, orders and transfers.
I shall read the following into the record from Affidavit
No. 15, the second paragraph:
DR. MERKEL: Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: You say the second page, the second
paragraph, and you begin something about 1919. I do not see
that.
DR. MERKEL: No, Mr. President, it is the first page, second
paragraph, right at the beginning of the affidavit.
THE PRESIDENT: On the first page, it begins "On 1st January,
1913."
DR. MERKEL: "On 1st January, 1913." I had only omitted this
first sentence and the third sentence begins with:
[Page 267]
DR. MERKEL: The paragraph from which I was reading is on
Page 1. It begins with "In 1935," and the fourth sentence,"
On the basis of my activity - "
THE PRESIDENT: "In 1935 without being consulted I was
ordered and transferred - ".
DR. MERKEL: Yes, yes, Mr. President, that is the paragraph.
And in this paragraph the fourth sentence, "On the basis of
my activity with the Gestapo office in Berlin." Then I shall
read the following paragraph:
2. Administrative officials: The administrative officials
were engaged exclusively in office work for the entire
police administration. They were strictly separated from
the executive officials by different regulations
concerning their career, by different titles, and
different duty passes. Above all they had nothing to do
with executive work. A change in their position and
activity never took place.
3. Executive Officials: They executed the real tasks of
the Gestapo which were laid down by law. In this
connection it should be noted, however, that [Page 268]
4. Civilian Employees: The civilian employees were mainly
clerks and other office personnel and personnel for
subordinate work.
5. Emergency Service Conscripts."
"6. Men detailed from the Waffen SS: In order to
guarantee the personnel requirements of the Gestapo,
members of the Waffen SS who, due to wounds and other
physical handicaps, could not be utilised at the front
any more were detailed to the Gestapo in increasing
numbers during the war."
(A short recess was taken.)
DR. MERKEL: From Affidavit No. 18, I should like permission
to read Section 7, relative to the members of the former
Secret Field Police:
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(Part 3 of 4)
"From October, 1940, until October, 1941, I was chief of
the branch office of the Security Police and of the
Security Service in Dijon, and from December, 1943, up to
the retreat from France, I was Commander of the Security
Police and of the Security Service in Dijon.
I pass the next sentence:
"The Security Police Command Dijon must be regarded as an
average command in France in respect to its strength as
well as to its composition."
On Page 3 of this affidavit, after the heading "Jewish
Questions," I shall read the brief paragraph which follows.
It reads:
"Recaptured prisoners of war were in no case brought to a
concentration camp or shot by the Dijon office, but
immediately turned over to the nearest competent Army
office."
THE PRESIDENT: Where are you reading now?
"There were no special Security Police or Security
Service prisons in the Dijon area. Furthermore, never
were arrestees in any prisons executed by order of the
Security Police (Sipo) or Security Service (SD), to
prevent their liberation by Allied troops."
Dealing with Affidavit 3, I read the beginning of the second
paragraph:
"In September, 1941, I was transferred from the infantry
to the Secret Field Police, and without my having
anything to do with it, in June, 1942, I was assigned to
the office of the Commander of the Sipo and the SD in
Poitiers."
Next paragraph:
"The Security Police Command at Poitiers was composed of
about five officials of the State Police and about five
officials of the Criminal Police, about 80 former members
of the Secret Field Police, who, like myself, were
discharged from the Wehrmacht and engaged in compulsory
war emergency service in the Security Police."
On Page 2 of this affidavit, under the heading "Commando
Order," I should like to read the following:
"This order is known to me only in its basic substance
through Wehrmacht reports, the Press, etc." I shall omit
the next sentence. "This order was not carried out in the
Poitiers region. I can mention two examples: In June,
1842, in a joint operation by the Security Police and the
Wehrmacht,
a camp of 40 English parachute troops was raided, and
during the short fight, three Englishmen were killed, the
rest being taken prisoner and handed over to the
Wehrmacht, although it was established that the group had
carried out sabotage on a railroad three kilometres from
Poitiers, more than 200 kilometres behind the invasion
line, and had organized French partisans and provided
them with arms."
And the next paragraph as well:
DR. MERKEL: "Likewise, in March, 1944, in the same
territory, five American airmen, who were met wearing
civilian clothes and in company of forty armed partisans,
were taken prisoner and turned over to the Luftwaffe."
Next I should like to summarize those affidavits numbered 5,
6, 7, 8 and 14. Mr. President, I beg your pardon that the
numbers are not in consecutive order, but this can be
explained through the fact that these affidavits, in so far
as they came from camps, were received at very great
intervals. Also the witnesses who deposed affidavits here in
the Nuremberg prison arrived one at a time, therefore it is
unavoidable that these affidavits are not numbered
consecutively. I should like to repeat the numbers: 5, 6, 7,
8 and 14. They prove that the Gestapo not only did not take
part in the excesses of 9th and 10th November, 1938, but
took steps against them and in numerous cases it undertook
arrests of members of the SA, the Party, and the SD. The
20,000 Jews who were arrested were largely released again
after their emigration papers had been procured.
"In May, 1919, I was assigned to the Political Police,
newly established as Dept. VI with Police Headquarters in
Munich."
THE PRESIDENT: Wait a minute. Are you reading affidavit No.
15?
"In 1933 I, with almost all other members of this office,
was transferred to the Bavarian Political Police which,
with almost the same personnel set-up, was in turn
transferred to the Secret State Police in Munich. The
entire personnel was screened politically by the SD,
resulting in a large part of the civil servants and
employees of the former political department of Police
Headquarters being judged negatively."
Then I shall read from Page 2 of the German text, under No.
2:
"While I was in charge of the office from 1933 to 1939 I
always pointed out to the officials under me that it was
forbidden to ill-treat prisoners. I did not hear of any
of my officials laying violent hands upon a prisoner."
From No. 4 I shall read the next to the last sentence of the
first paragraph:
"I learned that persons frequently pretended to be
Gestapo officials. These persons also committed criminal
acts. Because of the increase of such incidents, Himmler
issued a decree according to which all persons who
impersonated Gestapo officials were to be put into a
concentration camp."
From Affidavit 16 I should like to read the following on
Page 1, the fourth paragraph:
"On the basis of my activity with the Gestapo office in
Berlin I can confirm that the Gestapo office was made up
almost exclusively of officials of the former General
Criminal Police as well as of the Berlin Police
Administration, who were without exception ordered to
duty in the State Police."
THE PRESIDENT: You are reading 16, are you? Which page?
"As in the Gestapo office in Berlin, so too did the great
majority of the police personnel of the State Police
offices throughout the Reich consist of old professional
police officials who had been transferred from the old 1-
A section of the Criminal Police and from the remaining
branches of the police to the State Police, or were
ordered there, without their wishes being taken into
consideration in this connection."
Then I omit a paragraph:
"Transfers back were entirely out of the question because
an order existed which absolutely prohibited them. If, in
spite of this, requests were handed in for transfer back
or transfer from the Gestapo to another branch of the
police, such requests were usually answered with penal
transfer. Such requests were not made because the Gestapo
was considered a criminal organization, but mostly for
purely personal reasons."
From Affidavit No. 18 I should like to read the following,
on Page 3 of the German original:
"1. Officers: There were about 50 to 60 officers'
positions in the whole Security Police Force.
a number of these officials also were engaged in pure
office work as is the case in every office.
Here I shall read only the end of this paragraph:
"No right whatsoever to complain existed if an emergency
service conscript was sent to the Gestapo and not to any
other governmental office or to some private
enterprise."
I shall omit two paragraphs and shall read the third one
which follows:
"I estimate that the Gestapo had about 10,000 emergency
service conscripts by the end of 1944."
THE PRESIDENT: I think we had better break off now.
"With the transfer of the tasks of the Secret Field
Police to the Security Police, at first in the occupied
territories in the West, the members of the Secret Field
Police were also taken over into the Sipo, respectively
into the Gestapo. This transfer was done by order, so
that none of the transferred men could have done anything
against it."
And then the final sentence of that:
"Altogether approximately 5,500 men were taken over."
And the first sentence of the following paragraph:
"Particular importance was attached to secrecy in the
Gestapo."
I pass the following sentence, and continue:
"Particularly by means of the Fuehrer order of 1940,
which was extended immediately by the Reichsfuehrer SS to
include the Security Police, keeping of secrecy was
pronounced the supreme duty of all members of the
Security Police, and thereby of the Gestapo. This secrecy
rule was circulated at certain intervals to all members
of the individual offices, receipt being acknowledged by
their certified signatures. In that connection it was
pointed out time and again that any offences against the
secrecy regulations would be severely dealt with, and, in
important cases, even be punishable by death."
From Affidavit 20, I beg permission to read from Page 1,
second paragraph:
"The members of the administrative service in the lower,
middle and higher grades were, by order of the Gestapo,
and after 1937 of the Main Office of the Security Police,
taken out of their positions as civil servants in all
offices, mainly, however, from the police administration,
and were transferred to the Security Police and/or to the
Gestapo."