Did Hitler Order the Holocaust (Part 2)
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Did Hitler Order the Holocaust?
This speech was transcribed and passed by the Polish resistance to
the British Foreign Office in May 1943. The speech was just recently
discovered in the British Public Record Office in London by Solomon
Littmann, a Simon Wiesenthal Center researcher. The speech was read by
the entire British Foreign Office hierarchy, including Foreign Secretary
Anthony Eden, but it was not made public nor was it shared with Jewish
leaders in Britain or the U.S. Irving's post hoc rationalization on this
quote was as follows (1994):
That is indeed correct and thanks to my colleague, Alex Grobman, I
have a copy of the document myself. The author makes it clear that he is
"reproducing his [Goebbels] remarks impartially, just as I heard them,
from my shorthand notes, which make no claim to textual exactitude." He
adds: "I ask you to read Dr. Goebbels' speech very carefully, for in the
opinion of all of us this was the most important internal speech that we
had heard since the beginning of the war." The speech is four pages long
(single-spaced typed) and Jews are only mentioned in the three sentences
above. Goebbels is most concerned about the ability of the German people
to endure a protracted war and the role of the press in helping to
sustain optimism in the face of military uncertainties. If the
transcriber was going to fabricate damning quotes, why only three
sentences worth?
Is it possible the document was forged, or the transcriber badly
misjudged what Goebbels said or meant? It is possible, but not likely.
This is the problem with the snapshot fallacy. We must always examine
the context in which something is said, such as Goebbels other speeches
and diary entries, and the fact that the speech came just eight months
after the Wannsee Conference and the stepping up of the Final Solution.
But then, remarkably, Irving made this confession: "We have much better
sources than that on Goebbels and his role in this particular crime.
Goebbels' true diaries leave no doubt at all that he knew perfectly well
what was going on" (1994). What crime? What was going on? The answer?
The Holocaust!
Himmler's speeches are no less potent as evidence to prove the
Holocaust. He too talks about the ausrotten of the Jews, and
revisionists once again return to their semantic game of arguing that he
meant deportation. But two quotes negate that argument (Padfield, 1990,
pp. 188, 334):
(1) In a lecture on the history of Christianity, in January, 1937,
Himmler told his Gruppenfuehrers:
(2) In June, 1941, Himmler told Rudolf Hoess, the commandant of
Auschwitz (not to be confused with Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy) that
Hitler had ordered the Endloesung, or Final Solution of the Jewish
question, and that Hoess would play a major role at Auschwitz:
Similar speeches from Himmler are no less damning. One of the most
notorious is the October 4, 1943, speech to the SS-Gruppenfuehrer in
Poznan, which was recorded on a red oxide tape. Himmler was lecturing
from notes, and early in the talk he stopped the tape recorder to make
sure it was working. He then continued, knowing he was being recorded,
speaking for three hours, 10 minutes on a range of subjects, including
the military and political situation, the Slavic peoples and racial
blends, German racial superiority that would help them win the war, and
the like. Two hours into the speech Himmler began to talk about "the
extermination of the Jewish people." He compared this action with the
June 30, 1934 blood purges against perceived traitors within the Nazi
party, then talked about how difficult it is to endure seeing 100, 500,
or 1,000 bodies lying dead, and insisted that this will be an unwritten
part of history. The original German document and the National Archives
translation, reproduced on the previous page, speaks for itself (PS
Series 1919, pp. 64-67).
Irving's response to this quote was surprising because he seemed to
gainsay all of his previous rationalizations with this one exchange,
though leaving himself one final out:
Irving: I have a later speech he made on January 26, 1944, in which
he is speaking to the same audience rather more bluntly about the
ausrotten of Germany's Jews, when he announced that they had totally
solved the Jewish problem. Most of the listeners sprang to their feet
and applauded. "We were all there in Poznan," recalled a Rear Admiral,
when that man [Himmler] told us how he'd killed off the Jews. I can
still recall precisely how he told us. "If people ask me," said Himmler,
"why did you have to kill the children too, then I can only say I am not
such a coward that I leave for my children something I can do myself."
Quite interesting--this is an Admiral afterwards recording this in
British captivity without realizing he was being tape recorded, which is
a very good summary of what Himmler actually said.
Shermer: That sounds to me like he means to kill Jews, not just
transport them out of the Reich.
Irving: I agree, Himmler said that. He actually said "We're wiping
out the Jews. We're murdering them. We're killing them."
Shermer: What does that mean other than what it sounds like?
Irving: I agree, Himmler is admitting what I said happened to the
600,000. But, and this is the important point, nowhere does Himmler say
"we are killing millions." Nowhere does he even say we are killing
hundreds of thousands. He is talking about solving the Jewish problem,
about having to kill off women and children too.
This is general fallacy #2 from above, where one focuses on what is
not known and ignores what is known--Himmler never exactly said
millions, therefore he really meant thousands. But, please note, Himmler
never said thousands either. Irving is inferring what he wants to infer.
The actual numbers come from other sources which, in conjunction with
Himmler's speeches (and many other pieces of evidence), converge on the
conclusion that he meant millions.
And, finally, there are the words of the Fuehrer himself. In Hitler's
speech of January 30, 1939, he said:
In September, 1942, Hitler recalled:
At a public speech in Munich, November 8, 1942, Hitler told his
audience (see Jaeckel, 1989 for this and above Hitler quotes):
From his earliest political ramblings to the final Goetterdammerung,
Hitler had it in for the Jews. On April 12, 1922, in a Munich speech
later published in the Voelkischer Beobachter, he told his audience
(Snyder, 1981, p. 29):
Thirty-three [sic: twenty-three] years later, on April 29, 1945, at 4:00 A.M., just one
day before his suicide, Hitler commanded his successors in his political
testament to carry on the fight: "Above all I charge the leaders of the
nation and those under them to scrupulous observance of the laws of race
and to merciless opposition to the universal poisoner of all peoples,
International Jewry" (Snyder, p. 521). How many more quotes do we need
to prove the Holocaust--100, 1,000, 10,000? The convergence of evidence
is overwhelming.
Work Cited
Shermer, Michael. "Proving the Holocaust: The Refutation of
Revisionism & the Restoration of History," Skeptic, Vol. 2,
No. 4, Altadena, California, June, 1994. Published by the
Skeptics Society, 2761 N. Marengo Ave., Altadena, CA 91001,
(818) 794-3119.
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It is a very dubious document which needed a lot more digesting
before it was put out to the startling and marveling world the
way that it was put out a few weeks ago. The speech was
actually on English paper typed on an English typewriter in the
English archives. A lot of work had to be done on it--I found
the actual Polish origins of it, and the people who have
provided it, the Polish Intelligence Service. I think it is a
second-hand report, not a direct verbatim transcript in any
sense.
I have the conviction that the Roman emperors, who exterminated
[ausrotteten] the first Christians, did precisely what we are
doing with the communists. These Christians were at that time
the vilest scum, which the city accommodated, the vilest Jewish
people, the vilest Bolsheviks there were.
It is a hard, tough task which demands the commitment of the
whole person without regard to any difficulties that may arise.
You will be given details by Sturmbannfuehrer Eichmann of the
RSHA who will come to see you in the near future. The
department taking part will be informed at the appropriate time.
You have to maintain the strictest silence about this order,
even to your superiors. The Jews are the eternal enemies of the
German people and must be exterminated. All Jews we can reach
now, during the war, are to be exterminated without exception.
If we do not succeed in destroying the biological basis of
Jewry, some day the Jews will annihilate the German Volk.
Today I want to be a prophet once more: If international finance
Jewry inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in
plunging nations into another world war, the consequence will
not be the Bolshevization of the earth and thereby the victory
of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.
In my Reichstag speech of September 1, 1939 [above, wrong date
here], I have spoken of two things: first, that now that the war
has been forced upon us, no array of weapons and no passage of
time will bring us to defeat, and second, that if Jewry should
plot another world war in order to exterminate the Aryan peoples
in Europe, it would not be the Aryan peoples which would be
exterminated but Jewry. . . .
You will recall the session of the Reichstag during which I
declared: If Jewry should imagine that it could bring about an
international world war to exterminate the European races, the
result will not be the extermination of the European races, but
the extermination of Jewry in Europe. People always laughed
about me as a prophet. Of those who laughed then, countless
numbers no longer laugh today, and those who still laugh now
will perhaps no longer laugh a short time from now. This
realization will spread beyond Europe throughout the entire
world. International Jewry will be recognized in its full
demonic peril; we National Socialists will see to that.
The Jew is the ferment of the decomposition of people. This
means that it is in the nature of the Jew to destroy, and he
must destroy, because he lacks altogether any idea of working
for the common good. He possesses certain characteristics given
to him by nature and he never can rid himself of those
characteristics. The Jew is harmful to us.
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